Iyanla, Fix Me Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I have no reason to believe it isn't genuine - it's interesting that her personal social circle doesn't reflect this inclusivity but you can't blame someone for not having specific type of friends
Uncatena Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 its probably both? it was probably a conscious decision, which is great that she is giving him that platform. the only people talking about it are her fans, which she probably knew would happen. both parties win. at the end of the day, speculating about this is kinda weird.
elincomprendid Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, RihFenty20 said: She’s a capitalist machine. Every move she makes is with the intent of increasing profit via the exploitation of her cult. Diversity and Inclusivity are in right now. Her business model just reflects that. This doesn’t just apply to her. Take a look at every current major business model. Most usually have a statement championing for inclusivity. I doubt she (or anyone really) truly care about those issues. Taylor should learn from Rihanna and invite johnny depp to one of her music videos if she wants to increase her profits
Khal Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Of course is all scripted and PR, as if non-white people just became eligible to appear in her videos from Lover onwards Not really holding it against her, since most of ATRL's faves are enterprises with a PR machine behind them.
VOSS Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 She has dated a laundry list of famous men and 100% of them have been white. Definitely comes off as disingenuous to me.
Orsay Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Does she not literally admit to her own "covert narcissism disguised as altruism" in her own hit song? Not that she's the only one, this is pretty much the standard now for politicians and celebs
Klein Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Who cares what is her reasoning? It's not like we know her personally anyway. The fact is that she gives a platform to underrepresented people and that's it. She is not making a whole circus out of it like 'oh look how good of a person I am'. That's perfectly fine and this is important. She does it. Why always the need of questioning the motives of everyone everytime they do something good? Like this is such a weird behaviour. If you wonder if she's genuine, do you think it'd be better for her to only have white people in her videos?
niiall Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 She gets called out for only having white love interests in her videos, then she changes it, and then she's only doing it for money What is she supposed to do?
velocity Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Clauss said: Is Taylor lautner white? Well according to him he's dutch, french and german with 'distant' native american ancestry so really not the win you think it is
UnusualBoy Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Looks sincere, she does it and it's not like look at me, look at me I put this trans boy here or this gay there, she just does it and bounce. At the end even if it wasn't sincere, it gives visilibility to minorities which is what we need right now.
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted January 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted January 27, 2023 I don't know why she can't do good and grow as a person without some people saying she has other motives, it's not good enough, etc. It just kinda shows that I think you might need to check the bias you have against her that you're trying to project onto her actions. I get that her activism during YNTCD seemed like a lot at once, but she was honest in interviews at the time and her Miss Americana doc about why she was scared to speak up in her earlier years (even though she did, plenty of times, which people kind of ignore) and how she regretted not doing more sooner. She put actual action behind it...promoting the Equality Act, petitions to the White House, huge donations, etc. She has talked about how she genuinely wants to do better and grow as a person, and she has. Most of the roles in the YNTCD video were people she had friendships with. And the ones she didn't know beforehand only had great things to say. Her love interest in the Lover video is Christian Owens, one of her backup dancers for years. Her love interest in the Willow video is Taeok Lee, who has been her dancer and friend for even longer. Putting a transgender actor as the lead in Lavender Haze is amazing representation.
commander Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 This feels rather genuine. She doesn’t make a whole fuzz about it and it works very well. Unlike that music video where she used a bunch of gays . That was clearly PR motivated.
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted January 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted January 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Iyanla, Fix Me said: I have no reason to believe it isn't genuine - it's interesting that her personal social circle doesn't reflect this inclusivity but you can't blame someone for not having specific type of friends Also though, she isn't flaunting her friends these days like she was 10 years ago, she's pretty private. And that said, she has shown inclusivity in her friends (whenever she's shown them).
By the Water Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Well, ask the people in these videos how they feel about it 24 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said: Taylor Swift? The same girl that's a self proclaimed feminist but continues to work with known abusers? You tell me
Hunter_13 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 She's damned if she does damned if she doesn't with y'all .
Beyonnaise Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 The way OTH contort themselves in pretzels to find ways to complain no matter what she does will never not be a kii.
Redstreak Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 🎶 did you hear my covert narcissism might disguise as altruism like some kind of congressman 🎶
Brikenbur Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Headlock said: See, when even Brikenbur is defending Taylor, you know something’s up with the OP
Redstreak Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said: Taylor Swift? The same girl that's a self proclaimed feminist but continues to work with known abusers? You tell me Now I know a Gaga stan isn’t talking about people working with abusers 💀
Beyonnaise Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: why? I have a whole course about corporate inclusion & diversity and there are many businesses that are strategically utilizing underrepresented groups to improve their image. I agree with you. But what is your proposed solution to this? Keeping the status quo of straight whiteness in everything? This is the kind of "analysis" from fellow people on the left that I dislike, because it's full of complaining but light on actual ways to improve things.
gatito Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, niiall said: She gets called out for only having white love interests in her videos, then she changes it, and then she's only doing it for money What is she supposed to do? they probably want her to scissor women in her videos at this point OT: it doesn't matter what we think, in a time when trans people are under attack we need positive representation like this
JohnWayneHolland Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, By the Water said: Well, ask the people in these videos how they feel about it A performance from 10 years ago Taylor just starred in a movie directed by an abuser last year.
Clauss Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, velocity said: Well according to him he's dutch, french and german with 'distant' native american ancestry so really not the win you think it is i dont win anything with this velocity user. I really don't care. I just care about things I do. Edited January 27, 2023 by Clauss
JorgeM Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, JohnWayneHolland said: A performance from 10 years ago Taylor just starred in a movie directed by an abuser last year. Gaga paid an abuser in her last tour, someone who was denounced by her own dancers and she still keep him and ignore the victims
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