popularmoonlight Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Klein said: Spotify seems sooooo messy. Glad I'm using AM. Like why tf does the app make you listen to songs you did not plan on listening? If I want to discover new music, I simply use the discovery mix that is tailored to my taste. Does the same happen when you try listening to an album (or a playlist of any kind)? Do you have to manually click on the next song of the album each time? Well, if you're listening to an album, for example, and it ends Spotify will help you continue listening to music without you needing to do something about it. What's so weird about this? They'll recommend things based on what you listen or based on whatever you were listening before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selegend Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 this has always happened i've never been a Demi constant listener and i remember that "I Love Me" was ALWAYS, ALWAYS, for WEEKS, my next song. and the same happened with friends, for the same Demi song! and yeah, someone here talked about Tate. This happened SO MUCH with her song "she's all i wanna be" too. but love her and i'm a listener so i don't mind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 This has always existed for me. People are just freaking out because they probably changed the algorithm and the songs being recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, popularmoonlight said: Well, if you're listening to an album, for example, and it ends Spotify will help you continue listening to music without you needing to do something about it. What's so weird about this? They'll recommend things based on what you listen or based on whatever you were listening before. Oh ok I misunderstood then I thought it happened between each and every song. Like you click on the first song, and when it ends you get another random song and you have to manually start the second song of the album you wanted to listen to. If it starts something else at the end, I guess that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwide angel Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 two amazing palette cleansers getting well deserved payola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Alright. I knew there had to be a reason for this sudden spikes and changes. Still doesn't explain why a song that was #8 on the Global chart lost +1M streams in a day, but it does explain the rest (Nonsense, Kill Bill and other gains). Terrible feature by the way. Edited January 13, 2023 by Bonicap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selegend Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, Klein said: Oh ok I misunderstood then I thought it happened between each and every song. Like you click on the first song, and when it ends you get another random song and you have to manually start the second song of the album you wanted to listen to. If it starts something else at the end, I guess that's fine. no it's just at the end if u're listening to a playlist, they will play the whole playlist before they auto-recommend u a song if u're listening to an album, the same. but if u're listening to a single (for ex miley's new one) without it being on a playlist, u'll get a recommended song from spotify. it's pretty "ok" but sometimes it's constantly the same song for weeks, this payola always existed tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverwinter13 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, MrLovett said: I wondered why Cuff It just randomly dipped tens of thousands on a Wed/Thu, when it hasn't over the last 5 months. Tiktok magic is fading I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphy23 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, unclefloprry said: But that always existed. That's why Tate McRae has a 1B song. You Broke Me First is a massive smash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 People saying this always has been like this clearly don't follow Spotify charts. These last two days there have been things that never happened before, so something has changed in the algorithm, whether is this or another thing. It's not an attack to anybody, it's a fact if you see the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEEKND Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, Richmond said: Disgusting! I'm so glad I use Apple MUSIC, the premium service that cares about integrity, gives you genuine recommendations based on your personal tastes, and cares about audio quality standards That part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddynamite Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Untill I found you decreased by 1.4m Wait really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est. in 90s Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Not surprising. Spotify is full of payola and ATRL treats it like the Holy Grail of streaming services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popularmoonlight Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Selegend said: no it's just at the end if u're listening to a playlist, they will play the whole playlist before they auto-recommend u a song if u're listening to an album, the same. but if u're listening to a single (for ex miley's new one) without it being on a playlist, u'll get a recommended song from spotify. it's pretty "ok" but sometimes it's constantly the same song for weeks, this payola always existed tho Yup, and if the song is not what you like, you can simply click in a 'X' button and it stops suggesting it to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakihara Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Guys I don't even know what you're talking about I have my own playlists and when I'm in random mood I just look for a specific public playlist or got to a certain artist radio to listen to similar stuff. I don't know why y'all getting random songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popularmoonlight Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kakihara said: Guys I don't even know what you're talking about I have my own playlists and when I'm in random mood I just look for a specific public playlist or got to a certain artist radio to listen to similar stuff. I don't know why y'all getting random songs. Maybe your 'Autoplay' function is disabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Autoplay has been a feature on Spotify since forever Like streams on Spotify are ALWAYS boosted by the algorithm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bliaz Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 The good thing is that I have this option deactivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bonicap said: People saying this always has been like this clearly don't follow Spotify charts. These last two days there have been things that never happened before, so something has changed in the algorithm, whether is this or another thing. It's not an attack to anybody, it's a fact if you see the numbers. It just means that the "algorithm change" did not favor some certain songs anymore, doesn't mean that algorithm did not exist. Like why would a song suddenly lost 1M streams if people organically listened to it? It's just more of a concrete proof that the song was boosted by the previous algorithm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddynamite Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) I just looked at the charts. I think what OP is saying is that the autoplay has became more aggressive (in favor of certain songs) in the last few days to the point it's making drastic changes on the Spotify chart. Edited January 13, 2023 by ddddynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonSiblon Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Klein said: Spotify seems sooooo messy. Glad I'm using AM. Like why tf does the app make you listen to songs you did not plan on listening? And the way they've been pushing podcasts down their users throats the last two years Shoving podcasts in your CarPlay Home Screen when you're just trying to find some music, a driving hazard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 For example, yesterday in Spain Shakira's song did crazy numbers. Well, this was the song that came right after "randomly" to most people. Autoplay existed before, but we never saw this kind of random spikes, so if this is not chart manipulation you tell me. Sometimes it'll benefit a certain artist and other times another one, so I predict we will have tears and complains going in different directions in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakihara Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said: Maybe your 'Autoplay' function is disabled Okay, it was enabled but what was happening was I have repeat on, for when my playlists end. So I disabled it and tried playing Flowers again and when it ended Ariana's My way came on, I tried again and I got Ava Max's kings and queens. Lastly some other Ariana song from My everything. Nothing out of the ordinary for me tbh. But I'll stick to my repeat on feature regardless, I never dealt with unwanted suggestions before, I never really had a problem. 56 minutes ago, RihFenty20 said: This isn’t anything new. I have certain people blocked on Spotify because of auto-play fraud. How can you block an artist on Spotify? I cannot do that and I need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I have autoplay deactivated. I ALWAYS choose what I'm listening to in first person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmusicisdead Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 highly doubt these artists are paying for payola but i notice certain songs by artists i don't really listen to are on "heavy rotation" on Autoplay. like whenever i listen to a female artist, like Lana or Lorde for example, Killer by FKA Twigs would 100% be played 2-3 songs later. i don't really use her music outside of LP1. the same thing for the song What If I Love You by Gatlin. who i've never listened to before but somehow always shows up. i had to block the artist. i assumed it's the algorithm being just being bad and lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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