skwonderfactory Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 Can she at least give us the track list?
Diet Pepsi Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) I just wish we had an interview or something even if it was for a magazine shoot. I can’t believe we have no idea how the album is gonna sound Edited February 18, 2023 by Pink Whitney
perfectillusion204 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 How have y'all not figured out yet that Columbia is the reason this is smashing? If she was on her old label, this song would not be what it is. Columbia is fishy. It's having an identical radio chart run to As It Was / Easy On Me. They obviously have some sort of payola. Which ultimately helps give the song so much exposure that it is basically forced to become a hit. No hate at all towards Miley, this is one of my favorite songs of the year! But it is not organically smashing like some of you think..
smilervoticat Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, perfectillusion204 said: How have y'all not figured out yet that Columbia is the reason this is smashing? If she was on her old label, this song would not be what it is. Columbia is fishy. It's having an identical radio chart run to As It Was / Easy On Me. They obviously have some sort of payola. Which ultimately helps give the song so much exposure that it is basically forced to become a hit. No hate at all towards Miley, this is one of my favorite songs of the year! But it is not organically smashing like some of you think.. As if she didn’t make 18 million streams more than doubling her debut day a week after release and kept 10 million + daily streams for a month. No other song has done that. Not As It Was. Not Easy on Me. Gtfo here 💀
perfectillusion204 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, smilervoticat said: As if she didn’t make 18 million streams more than doubling her debut day a week after release and kept 10 million + daily streams for a month. No other song has done that. Not As It Was. Not Easy on Me. Gtfo here 💀 Thank you for proving my point that doubling her streams is literally impossible. Like you realize record labels have/use streaming farms right? Flowers is huge because of the paychecks Columbia is sending out. Simple as that. And see how every artist on Columbia has the same rollout? Everything is calculated to a T.
josesuxx Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, perfectillusion204 said: Thank you for proving my point that doubling her streams is literally impossible. Like you realize record labels have/use streaming farms right? Flowers is huge because of the paychecks Columbia is sending out. Simple as that. And see how every artist on Columbia has the same rollout? Everything is calculated to a T. Sure grandma let's get you to bed now
Squall Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, perfectillusion204 said: Thank you for proving my point that doubling her streams is literally impossible. Like you realize record labels have/use streaming farms right? Flowers is huge because of the paychecks Columbia is sending out. Simple as that. And see how every artist on Columbia has the same rollout? Everything is calculated to a T. Or maybe it's doing huge numbers because people love the song... which means Spotify is adding it to more playlists? Edited February 18, 2023 by Squall
Eóghan Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 4 hours ago, perfectillusion204 said: How have y'all not figured out yet that Columbia is the reason this is smashing? If she was on her old label, this song would not be what it is. Columbia is fishy. It's having an identical radio chart run to As It Was / Easy On Me. They obviously have some sort of payola. Which ultimately helps give the song so much exposure that it is basically forced to become a hit. No hate at all towards Miley, this is one of my favorite songs of the year! But it is not organically smashing like some of you think..
Cappe2001 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 10.100.000 yesterday on spotify, i don’t think this song is going down anytime soon, it will be #1 on spotify global for months
GRMusic Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, perfectillusion204 said: Thank you for proving my point that doubling her streams is literally impossible. Like you realize record labels have/use streaming farms right? Flowers is huge because of the paychecks Columbia is sending out. Simple as that. And see how every artist on Columbia has the same rollout? Everything is calculated to a T. The post is perfect for your username as this may be your perfect illusion.
collin Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 I mean, for her to randomly smash like this after a label switch is really weird. These numbers are totally unprecedented and it’s not like she had some sort of huge media comeback. I do think there’s a lot of public goodwill for her seeing as she’s been sidelined for a decade but this level of success is just crazy. I’m happy for her of course
josesuxx Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 The picture the Maybe You're Right reference
gloamingtheplain Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, collin said: I mean, for her to randomly smash like this after a label switch is really weird. These numbers are totally unprecedented and it’s not like she had some sort of huge media comeback. I do think there’s a lot of public goodwill for her seeing as she’s been sidelined for a decade but this level of success is just crazy. I’m happy for her of course It’s not really that weird. Malibu did really well in 2017 despite being quite long for radio and having verses that weren’t short and sharp that radio wanted. Yet it did well showing there was good faith from listeners. Younger Now the album just wasn’t commercial at all so the rest of the era tumbled. This was before playlisting really mattered. And Mothers Daughter and Slide Away were barely pushed by RCA at all. Shitty playlisting meant that had no chance. And Midnight Sky was treated only slightly better. So it makes sense that the public are still perched for Miley shown by Malibu’s success but the rest of her projects just haven’t made enough noise to really capture their attention. The press Miley did leading up to the song, the New Years performance and then being Top Ten on most of the big platforms (plus being an answer song to a known hit) made more noise and therefore grabbed more attention
wish Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, collin said: I mean, for her to randomly smash like this after a label switch is really weird. These numbers are totally unprecedented and it’s not like she had some sort of huge media comeback. I do think there’s a lot of public goodwill for her seeing as she’s been sidelined for a decade but this level of success is just crazy. I’m happy for her of course Well let's not forget that she released this right off the heels of her New Years special (which was basically a glorified Miley concert). Not necessarily a huge media comeback, but there was definitely an overlap of media interest that helped her generate buzz surrounding the release. This along with public goodwill and minimal competition (January release) gave her a lot of exposure that allowed both the song & its narrative to explode. Unprecedented yes, but not fishy
Freakshowvato Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Its the TTH and radio payola (thanks to the new label) AND the music video all giving the song massive attention and push… everything was done perfectly
josesuxx Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Freakshowvato said: Its the TTH and radio payola (thanks to the new label) AND the music video all giving the song massive attention and push… everything was done perfectly You forgot the GP's interest in the song's backstory, that's the biggest push it got (+ sounding like a classic on first listen helped too)
Freakshowvato Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, josesuxx said: You forgot the GP's interest in the song's backstory, that's the biggest push it got (+ sounding like a classic on first listen helped too) yes the actual material was on point as well... high profile story of a breakup that did not get any attention musically yet (Slide Away and Midnight Sky were not huge) and sonically it sounds fresh like Harry's smash hits (same producers) yet classic even reminiscent of Bruno Mars, that is all true. Everything added up perfectly and made sense at the end, even though the numbers are flabbergasting. It shows what a good label could do for an artist, because imagine how huge Midnight Sky could've been (a superior song imo). Edited February 19, 2023 by Freakshowvato
Diet Pepsi Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Y’all are forgetting the viral TikTok rumors of Miley filming the video of the house where Liam cheated with 14 woman at & that Liam cheated with Jennifer Lawrence they were mega viral & she still never denied any of them
Bindi Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Freakshowvato said: Its the TTH and radio payola (thanks to the new label) AND the music video all giving the song massive attention and push… everything was done perfectly It’s so obvious, I can’t believe some of y’all are so delusional. SA and MS also had the high profile story of a breakup (they were even more obvious too) and yet they weren’t smashing like that.
State of Grace. Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) I'm happy for her smashery etc but I wish she'd give us some crumbs. Plastic Hearts era was sooo good despite its flaws Hopefully things change after the album release. She's one of the girls who SLAY a traditional rollout. Edited February 19, 2023 by State of Grace.
wish Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Radio payola doesn't push a song to be the fastest-streamed single of all time. Some of y'all need to get a grip
aleksanderbgu Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 i don't really care about it being a number one album, Miley already has number one albums. It if smashes just like flowers i'll be happy.
Freakshowvato Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 I think we need a second single a week before album release. Flowers needs to milk every minute of its slayage.
Scars Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bindi said: It’s so obvious, I can’t believe some of y’all are so delusional. SA and MS also had the high profile story of a breakup (they were even more obvious too) and yet they weren’t smashing like that. 58 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: Its also massive streaming support… Miley was bound to blow up, Plastic Hearts was begging for it. Columbia executed it perfectly. To deny the impact of radio and streaming support by the label is delusional There's no one denying the great help of radio and playlist support, fans just don't agree with the silly idea that all the credit for Flowers' success should only go to Columbia. It's the combination of many factors, including the goodwill from pop music listeners after Plastic Hearts, all eyes on Miley after the high ratings of her New Year's Eve show, label support, the post break-up narrative and last but not least a catchy pop song from a multigenerational icon. People are rooting for the comeback of a star they grew up with. We've all seen comeback singles from "MPGs!!!!" that couldn't even do 1/10 of Flowers' numbers despite being spammed on radio in the first few weeks. At the end of day, there's no way to have a big hit without people truly enjoying the song, especially to this unprecedented level of success. Edited February 19, 2023 by Scars
pika Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: Its also massive streaming support… Miley was bound to blow up, Plastic Hearts was begging for it. Columbia executed it perfectly. To deny the impact of radio and streaming support by the label is delusional Demi stans still crying and whining about ‘label support!! If only they sent her songs to radio and cared!! She’d be just as big!! ’ like it’s 2012. Even after all those radio gouging, Dua Lipa chart trickery tacked on ‘hits’ from TMYLM, Demi still didn’t turn into a star and swiftly declined. Get it through your thick skulls that she will NEVER see this success. Miley’s comeback is built on her doing whatever she wants her entire career with talent and 0 regrets along the way. When you have that reputation and hold to it, people will always keep a tab on you. Demi only does things when it’s safe to copy (Confident/Bangerz, HOLYFVCK/return of Pop Rock in 2021) and looks like a dated, parody rendition by the time does it. Not even Taylor can pull off a Flowers - an artist with 100% label support and boyfriend dedicated lyrics to spare. Yet somehow for Miley it’s because she signed a good contract. So despicable that you lot run around the forum with these talking points. Enough
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