Gaia Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 4th gen ggs playlisting aespa playlisting peaks: BM - 19M Next Level - 17M Savage - 29M Girls - 29M IVE playlisting peaks: Eleven - 30M Love Dive - 44M After Like - 54M LSRFM Playlisting peaks: Fearless - 32M Antifragile - 31M Newjeans playlisting peaks: Attention - 72M Hype Boy - 33M Ditto - 120M OMG - 118M SM doing nothing for aespa NewJeans LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting Edited February 20, 2023 by Gaia
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 I think that people tend to forget that being on top50 on the charts is counted as a playlist reach too? is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months
harrythevifan Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hazy said: is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months It's multi-level marketing. Not sure what's so difficult about this. It's how kpop became a thing without anyone knowing about it.
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) also that NewJeans narrative of them being flops on yt, when they are almost at 1.2B views there (7 months) for reference (last 12 months) G Idle 1.35B aespa 960M itzy 1.2B and for some reason it’s impossible to check it for IVE and Le Sserafim truly embarassing to come for them in the yt department Edited February 20, 2023 by Hazy
katyberry Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gaia said: 4th gen ggs playlisting aespa playlisting peaks: BM - 19M Next Level - 17M Savage - 29M Girls - 29M IVE playlisting peaks: Eleven - 30M Love Dive - 44M After Like - 54M LSRFM Playlisting peaks: Fearless - 32M Antifragile - 31M Newjeans playlisting peaks: Attention - 72M Hype Boy - 33M Ditto - 120M OMG - 118M SM doing nothing for aespa NewJeans LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting And the fact Warner was in charge of Girls too but it was for the best cause if Girls actually smashed then SM would never get humbled like they did
katyberry Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hazy said: also that NewJeans narrative of them being flops on yt, when they are almost at 1.2B views there (7 months) for reference (last 12 months) G Idle 1.35B aespa 960M itzy 1.2B and for some reason it’s impossible to check it for IVE and Le Sserafim truly embarassing to come for them in the yt department 50% of the videos on aespa channel are literally shorts and Newjeans are about to surpass the amount of videos aespa uploaded in just 7 months
Cain Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, getinthezone said: NewJeans does seem a bit faceless, and the members all look pretty similar. theyre still very young tho and it would be awkward to have a 15 year old plastered everywhere tbf The only members that look similar are Hyein and Haerin Minji, Hanni and Danielle look completely different
Adama Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hazy said: is it payola now that NewJeans got there before they were even added to TTH? something some groups never achieved, mind you… not to say staying there for days or months LD, After like,Antifragile also achieved big Spotify streams and were even bigger than Attention and yet they didn’t get a spot on TTH.
sunmimi imfurst Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 It’s crazy how after like was in a huge/viral meme but they never leaned into it isn’t that what all companies pray for lol.
Adama Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, sunmimi imfurst said: It’s crazy how after like was in a huge/viral meme but they never leaned into it isn’t that what all companies pray for lol. It’s not the first time, Dear Cupid was VIRAL on tik tok and insta and starshit did nothing
Dialamba Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Gaia said: 4th gen ggs playlisting aespa playlisting peaks: BM - 19M Next Level - 17M Savage - 29M Girls - 29M IVE playlisting peaks: Eleven - 30M Love Dive - 44M After Like - 54M LSRFM Playlisting peaks: Fearless - 32M Antifragile - 31M Newjeans playlisting peaks: Attention - 72M Hype Boy - 33M Ditto - 120M OMG - 118M SM doing nothing for aespa NewJeans LSRFM doing really well without heavy playlisting. I wonder how they'd do with NJ level playlisting The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 also anti fragile had 62M Edited February 20, 2023 by Dialamba
Narima Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 fearless - same day as fraud young woong antifragile - same day as gidle the next release must be same day as ive
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, Adama said: LD, After like,Antifragile also achieved big Spotify streams and were even bigger than Attention and yet they didn’t get a spot on TTH. I was clearly speaking about Ditto and OMG. Attention got slight push but it didn’t really change anything at that time. Then Hype Boy started getting more streams after they were gone from TTH. Then Ditto came with their biggest numbers yet and got added to the playlist long after the release. it was in the #50 all the time without it.
illia Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dialamba said: The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 also anti fragile had 62M they actually did enter top 50 it was #50 though but still
Dialamba Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Adama said: It’s not the first time, Dear Cupid was VIRAL on tik tok and insta and starshit did nothing Don’t piss me off. SS just can’t handle a big group. It’s painful to watch
Hay Amores Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Narima said: fearless - same day as fraud young woong antifragile - same day as gidle the next release must be same day as ive The way this is a possible move.
Adama Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dialamba said: The reason why LSFR have low playlisting is because they didn’t enter Spotify top 50 also anti fragile had 62M You mean at their debut? Bc Antifragile peaked at #50 on Spotify global Just now, Narima said: fearless - same day as fraud young woong antifragile - same day as gidle the next release must be same day as ive Honestly nothing will be ever worst than IVE coming back the same day as big bong 1 minute ago, Dialamba said: Don’t piss me off. SS just can’t handle a big group. It’s painful to watch the fact that even my friends were using the dear Cupid song . A real missed opportunity 4 minutes ago, Hazy said: I was clearly speaking about Ditto and OMG. Attention got slight push but it didn’t really change anything at that time. Then Hype Boy started getting more streams after they were gone from TTH. Then Ditto came with their biggest numbers yet and got added to the playlist long after the release. it was in the #50 all the time without it. the slight push being a TTH spot? When no others k acts except BTS and BP were able to get one? Even if it didn’t do anything for Attention, Imagine LD, After like or Antifragile getting a spot too,It would have made a difference bc these songs were already performing very well.
Gaia Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 There's absolutely nothing wrong with streaming playlisting it's just hilarious to me people were saying youtube was this manipulatable metric as if streaming sites aren't the exact same. I wish my faves were plastered everywhere on spotify to increase their reach Nothing wrong with it, but denying it's impact on songs performance is the same as saying ads don't make a difference in YT views. SM trying so hard to push their groups in the west but failing to payola them onto streaming playlists just shows they're out of touch. Going on some random morning show with 500k viewers of soccer moms isn't going to do as much as putting on NMF, TTH, etc. Hybe is doing it right, their stans just need to stop acting like its completely organic and more impressive than youtube
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, Adama said: the slight push being a TTH spot? When no others k acts except BTS and BP were able to get one? Even if it didn’t do anything for Attention, Imagine LD, After like or Antifragile getting a spot too,It would have made a difference bc these songs were already performing very well. so did Attention as a debut song? also followed by Hype Boy? they were charting side by side for a long time also, LD, AL and Antifragile are comeback songs, of course they would get bigger numbers first day than debut of the group with unknown members - yet they scored two smashes and it’s not their fault they were doing good enough on their own without help in the first place, to get that extra push after some time after release I remember people here saying that their yt views were bad (no ads), spotify upon debut meh (after being on yt for 2 weeks, no playlisting, added late on kpop playlists) - and then they were able to climb to 1m plays per song and staying stable there to get that TTH spot (35th place or something) and now Hype Boy just achieved all time high, 6 months in payola
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gaia said: There's absolutely nothing wrong with streaming playlisting it's just hilarious to me people were saying youtube was this manipulatable metric as if streaming sites aren't the exact same. I wish my faves were plastered everywhere on spotify to increase their reach Nothing wrong with it, but denying it's impact on songs performance is the same as saying ads don't make a difference in YT views. SM trying so hard to push their groups in the west but failing to payola them onto streaming playlists just shows they're out of touch. Going on some random morning show with 500k viewers of soccer moms isn't going to do as much as putting on NMF, TTH, etc. Hybe is doing it right, their stans just need to stop acting like its completely organic and more impressive than youtube ads are just added to the total count under the video - yt filters numbers too and it’s possible on the charts to see actual views Spotify filters numbers too, to catch bots or mindless stans - in fact both yt and spotify have playlists, trending pages and charts why is playlist reach in the same category as ads then?
katyberry Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gaia said: SM trying so hard to push their groups in the west but failing to payola them onto streaming playlists just shows they're out of touch. Going on some random morning show with 500k viewers of soccer moms isn't going to do as much as putting on NMF, TTH, etc. Hybe is doing it right, their stans just need to stop acting like its completely organic and more impressive than youtube
Adama Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hazy said: so did Attention as a debut song? also followed by Hype Boy? they were charting side by side for a long time also, LD, AL and Antifragile are comeback songs, of course they would get bigger numbers first day than debut of the group with unknown members - yet they scored two smashes and it’s not their fault they were doing good enough on their own without help in the first place, to get that extra push after some time after release I remember people here saying that their yt views were bad (no ads), spotify upon debut meh (after being on yt for 2 weeks, no playlisting, added late on kpop playlists) - and then they were able to climb to 1m plays per song and staying stable there to get that TTH spot (35th place or something) and now Hype Boy just achieved all time high, 6 months in payola I’m not talking about the first day peak. Antifragile peaked at 1.6 million streams weeks after too, After like was still getting 1.2 million streams daily weeks after the release too. How a song who got less daily streams than these songs and who didn’t even reach top 50 global of Spotify was qualified to get a TTH spot but the others don’t?
Sweet Sexy Savage Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Does NewJeans have a separate single thread for OMG?
Hazy Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Adama said: I’m not talking about the first day peak. Antifragile peaked at 1.6 million streams weeks after too, After like was still getting 1.2 million streams daily weeks after the release too. How a song who got less daily streams than these songs and who didn’t even reach top 50 global of Spotify was qualified to get a TTH spot but the others don’t? well, that’s a question to their labels? NewJeans pulled off 3 singles at the same time and all of them charted very well (especially for a debut) so maybe Ador saw the chance and pushed them more? which clearly payed off. but it’s obvious they were still testing the waters with Ditto and OMG, since the former was added to TTH 3 weeks after the release and before that, it charted non stop in the top 50 - not for a day or two
Adama Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hazy said: well, that’s a question to their labels? NewJeans pulled off 3 singles at the same time and all of them charted very well (especially for a debut) so maybe Ador saw the chance and pushed them more? which clearly payed off. but it’s obvious they were still testing the waters with Ditto and OMG, since the former was added to TTH 3 weeks after the release and before that, it charted non stop in the top 50 - not for a day or two Yeah let me question the label since only 3 Kpop acts only got a spot inside TTH. Clearly not everyone have the connection despite their songs performing well too. And IVE didn’t just charted in Spotify global top 50 a day or two too . And to go back to the subject of Payola, A song who never reached the top 50 or top 60 of global Spotify was indeed payoled into TTH and nothing wrong with that.
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