katyberry Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The fact this all started because the double standard people have between aespa and IVE was pointed out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Kinda fuming cause this era is IVE's first letdown for me. Both songs aren't bad, they just sound like cute bsides and even their album had better ones. I hope Baddie saves it but the release strategy is such a mess too. Oh well, at least they still have AOTY. I'm all for groups trying different sounds but their formula was perfect (so KPOP) and it was too soon to start serving bedroom snoozes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, katyberry said: Again, you are acting as if I created this rule! It's literally what multiple users in here put into action last year aespa's "flops" that left them "totally irrelevant" were actually in the top 10. Idk what's so hard to understand for that user when they're the ones who came up with these unrealistic standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The reality is KTRL's darlings right now are kinda underperforming and the supposedly fads had just wrapped up the biggest and most attended tour for a 4th Gen so far. There is no shame to admit that. And that's the biggest take away I have for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katyberry Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, IvyTower said: No one said their concept was directly “stolen” except bitter fans on twitter. But I personally see their similarities, you don’t have to agree. I’m more saying that nothing is created in a vacuum and of course new groups will draw from their predecessors. I love aespa and am a sheep; apologies for my poor wording! Can I ask what exactly is similar between them? This is a genuine question btw cause one lore is high budget and thought out years in advance (2015) meanwhile the other is 95% carried by just fan theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Don't forget when my mothers TWICE smashed with S*gnal The fact that it won SOTY at MAMA as well As you said, it has nothing to do with boy groups releasing bad music, but the fact that the GP simply doesn't care about bgs most of the time. But with ggs destroying bgs in digitals it kinda balances it out, since bgs are destroying them in sales. Though they are pretty much even in touring and streams they were so heinous for this song, it makes them almost deserve all the fumes that come from Buttstink stans almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe. Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 aespa is SM's answer to blackpink like ITZY is JYP's answer to blackpink the influence is clearly there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The victim complex as if the sheep aren’t the ones to always start a fight 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: I swear if that user says "geek culture" or brings up how much of a geek he is one more time, like we got it the first time 3 times somebody is really insecure about being @Odette Violet's fellow kpop dweeb. None of us are cool or normal even by Korean standards pack it up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 if I don't see a pic of Lee Knowles holding today's newspaper for proof of wellness I'm gonna call the fuckin police 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpah Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 NCT 127 FACT CHECK IS A BOP noise done right fell in love with taeyong all over again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The fact we have such incredible girl groups out right now that are smashing so hard we can’t help but fight: oprah_hello_lets_celebrate_that.gif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 What we're NOT gonna do today is pit Loonaverse and SMCU against each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, Century said: somebody is really insecure about being @Odette Violet's fellow kpop dweeb. None of us are cool or normal even by Korean standards pack it up. I put them on mute. I really couldn't careless about them, they are irrelevant to me But I guess thanks for the attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe. Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 jyp follows trends the most it seems as twice is their answer to SNSD ITZY their answer to blackpink and NMIXX their answer to aespa maybe VCHA will break this cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dialamba said: The victim complex as if the sheep aren’t the ones to always start a fight You started it months ago, it's your fault that your own stupidity came back to bite. Let's not forget that Girls and Next Level were barely over a year apart too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelRey Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: The reality is KTRL's darlings right now are kinda underperforming and the supposedly fads had just wrapped up the biggest and most attended tour for a 4th Gen so far. There is no shame to admit that. And that's the biggest take away I have for today. NewJeans are smashing tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyeyes Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, katyberry said: Can I ask what exactly is similar between them? This is a genuine question btw cause one lore is high budget and thought out years in advance (2015) meanwhile the other is 95% carried by just fan theory Educate me, queen In general girl groups weren’t really doing lore though the actual lore is different. I’m not familiar with LOONAs lore but knew it was a big point of interest for their fandom and helped them in expanding. Interestingly, the rise of lore was predicted in general across different types of products and brands by analysts before COVID started, it’s a natural progression and aespa has killed it with their movies. EXO really tried to do lore first but the GP said no Edited October 6, 2023 by IvyTower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said: maybe VCHA will break this cycle 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, ItsJustMe. said: jyp follows trends the most it seems as twice is their answer to SNSD ITZY their answer to blackpink and NMIXX their answer to aespa maybe VCHA will break this cycle VCHA is their answer to JoJo Siwa's kids bops too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, Mitsuki said: Their best song after Hype Boy, I've had this on loop all day today Your other faves did their thing I fear 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Odette Violet said: IVE are KTRL darlings along with NJ doesn't matter if they are underperforming or getting hits, gheys will praise them to high heavens. But not too much on Miss Strawberry and friends. They'll get back on track in no time. 3 minutes ago, DelRey said: NewJeans are smashing tho I'm talking about the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCal Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said: 4th gen leaders Edited October 6, 2023 by TheCal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The hatred toward IVE and NewJeans right now feels so personal plus the fact that it’s from new users shocks me This has to be some evil foreplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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