lgaga1fan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 contrIVEd stans still arguing in here hours later. in 5 years their only musical legacy will be bagging hits with samples of better songs and riding trends. T-ARAs cousins have their reign ending, but using Rina Sawayama's cowriters might bag them another hit (Baddie or whatever its called). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 contrIVEd a cackle Kpop's obsession over the declining murika needs to end now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: contrIVEd stans still arguing in here hours later. in 5 years their only musical legacy will be bagging hits with samples of better songs and riding trends. T-ARAs cousins have their reign ending, but using Rina Sawayama's cowriters might bag them another hit (Baddie or whatever its called). So IVE who have more bigger hits than Aespa will not have musical legacy but somehow Aespa will ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 KOREA, JAPAN, CHINA and SEA should be the #1 priorities cause once that hype died down. Who else will give you a career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Adama said: So IVE who have more bigger hits than Aespa will not have musical legacy but somehow Aespa will ? So T-ARA who have more bigger hits than SNSD will not have a musical legacy but somehow SNSD will ? -somebody on soompi in 2011 probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, Adama said: So IVE who have more bigger hits than Aespa will not have musical legacy but somehow Aespa will ? T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: Not More NCT? SM never learns ENOUGH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, lgaga1fan said: T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. NOT OUR SHARED BRAINCELL LDFKJGDHFLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Century said: So T-ARA who have more bigger hits than SNSD will not have a musical legacy but somehow SNSD will ? -somebody on soompi in 2011 probably Just now, lgaga1fan said: T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lily42 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Let's set the score once and for all: Sales: aespa IVE NewJeans Circle total 1. NewJeans - 5.05M (3 albums) 2. Aespa - 4.78M (3 albums) 3. IVE - 4.8M (4 albums) hope this helps in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzal Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Aespa already kinda forgotten and ignored and y'all are talking about future legacy ijbol 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Adama said: Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? The point went right over your head. aespa has already had an enormous impact and influence and left the biggest mark on the culture out of their entire generation. Even their "flop" era dominated kpop discussion not just on here but everywhere around the world. Metaverse/ai groups are now a thing, alternate universes with their own lore are now a thing, JYP heard Next Level a single time and decided to make an entire group concept based on it. Everything they do is huge because they're LEADERS. They set the trends and dictate the culture. SHINee were never the biggest chart toppers but ruled 2nd gen with an iron fist and now that the dust from that generation has settled they're winning the legacy game alongside Big Bang. Edited October 6, 2023 by Century 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Adama said: Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? JYP A&R's immediate reaction to Next Level's success made them rush out a girl group where the main concept was making songs that switch up halfway and it backfired horribly. Just because your perception of popularity relies on being entirely numerical doesn't mean that aespa haven't had an observable impact on the industry they work in and have other groups and companies chasing after the same success. Edited October 6, 2023 by lgaga1fan 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, Adama said: It’s always the SM stan who always accuses groups who are performing better than their faves of « sajaegi » ! Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year. I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwlrma Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I agree with sheeps tour and physicals sales are what matter I hope they can understand now why SM push NCT more than any female act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The constant labeling of sheeps when I could really give less of a **** about Red Velvet and other SM groups touring prospects is so funny. Stanning one group apparently means I have to buy stock in the other groups like its a Costco warehouse. Apparently we can't have opinions on obvious market manipulation and underdevloped, unseasoned single releases unless we christen ourselves on the steps of SM Entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, lily42 said: Circle total 1. NewJeans - 5.05M (3 albums) 2. Aespa - 4.78M (3 albums) 3. IVE - 4.8M (4 albums) hope this helps in some way Thanks, I didn't look at total numbers, but more so if they were to release an album on the spot, and who had the highest selling album this year etc. if you get what I mean. aespa surpassed 2M sales with 1 album this year, but yeah I should've switched NewJeans and IVE. Let me edit my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Zack said: Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year. I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true The moment I got back on lurking KTRL, that was the first post I immediately saw here The bookmarkings and multiquotes was an event. The way I choked Maybe you should do it again for the kiis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, dlwlrma said: I agree with sheeps tour and physicals sales are what matter I hope they can understand now why SM push NCT more than any female act You were so close to spilling but you forgot that even SM openly admits aespa is their main act now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyme Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, dlwlrma said: I agree with sheeps tour and physicals sales are what matter I hope they can understand now why SM push NCT more than any female act It only took NCT over 30 trainees, several full albums, and 5 years of investments. A whole generation passed before they became profitable. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: The constant labeling of sheeps when I could really give less of a **** about Red Velvet and other SM groups touring prospects is so funny. Stanning one group apparently means I have to buy stock in the other groups like its a Costco warehouse. Apparently we can't have opinions on obvious market manipulation and underdevloped, unseasoned single releases unless we christen ourselves on the steps of SM Entertainment. I'm still dragging your ass to the red velvet tour though so ntfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 jini debut single out this wednesday don’t forget to tune in ktrl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwlrma Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Century said: You were so close to spilling but you forgot that even SM openly admits aespa is their main act now. and SM will make 10 comebacks of NCT per year meanwhile sheeps here will cry screaming they hate Red Velvet or Aespa 1 minute ago, Rhyme said: It only took NCT over 30 trainees, several full albums, and 5 years of investments. A whole generation passed before they became profitable. And worked profitable kings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jqnetto Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, hallucinate said: jini debut single out this wednesday don’t forget to tune in ktrl the way you already spent the opportunity to have her name in the thread title tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, dlwlrma said: and SM will make 10 comebacks of NCT per year meanwhile sheeps here will cry screaming they hate Red Velvet or Aespa We had a VERY messy drought during SM's messy breakup era but SM had to keep funding these NCT comebacks somehow so now we get aespa content so fast it's hard to keep up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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