Sorecer Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 They really said we’re coming for everyones wig NJ1 will be the event of the year when is released 1 1
discreetinside Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, xrosup said: I'm manifesting Skz perform Hellevator and Get Cool Ahh we deserved Changbin x Wooyoung moments Only if TXT also perform at Kcon LA we could potentially have Yeonjun Changbin Wooyoung moments
Kety Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Bg talks are boring, these new bgs have no redeemable quality like at all. No visual, limited talent, no vocal ability, noizes etc like what is there to ‘stan’. All members of skz are lowkey visually challenged sans Bang Chan, spamming their basic photos won’t convince people they’re attractive Anyway New Jeans is the face of kpop and bigger organically than all of our faves 2 2
spicyaegha Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Damn the Blinks and Engenes are dragging them in replies and qrts. YGE threw them into dungeon for 13 months during their rookie years truly cost them in long run I fear. It’s what those teumes get for running their mouths on bp acting all brave on bp renewal news when treasure is getting outsold by everyone and their grandma
Witnessed ET Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 The Treasure song….it’s not bad until the verses but that chorus ruins everything Bite Me > Sugar Rush Ride >>>>>>>Bona Bona >= S-Class = Bouncy the gap between the first two and the rest is crazy
TheCal Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 In Bloom >= Sugar Rush Ride > Bite Me = Bouncy > S-Class >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bona Bona
Pluto6 Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kety said: Bg talks are boring, these new bgs have no redeemable quality like at all. No visual, limited talent, no vocal ability, noizes etc like what is there to ‘stan’. All members of skz are lowkey visually challenged sans Bang Chan, spamming their basic photos won’t convince people they’re attractive Anyway New Jeans is the face of kpop and bigger organically than all of our faves The way you just said all these things about bgs and then you went on to praise NJ Where is the self awareness? Edited July 28, 2023 by Pluto2022 1 3
Adama Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: This is pretty alarming, the fact that every top 4th gen gg are now selling millions with some of them even surpassing 2M, while TREASRURE as a BIG 4 BOY GROUP FROM YG are still struggling to sell 300K Looks like @Mel. buying those 10 copies didn't work in their favor either. Like even NMIXX are outselling them? Like TREASURE are basically selling the same amount as STAYC If BP leaves it’s going to be hard for them. Treasure is not big enough to be profitable for YGE. 31 minutes ago, TaylenaStan said: The fact that Treasure didnt even peak at debut but PRE-debut Still their best track and everything after that got worse and worse + the fact that they kicked their best 2 members (Mashiho/Yedam ) I’ll said it again: YG shouldn’t manage large groups! They just don’t know how to market them, Compared to smaller groups like BB, 2ne1, Winner, BP, and Akmu. Ikon shouldn’t have been 7 members too since it was B.I/Bobby + friends. The same things will happens with Baemon. It’s going to be 2/3 members + friends Edited July 28, 2023 by Adama
discreetinside Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kety said: Bg talks are boring, these new bgs have no redeemable quality like at all. No visual, limited talent, no vocal ability, noizes etc like what is there to ‘stan’. All members of skz are lowkey visually challenged sans Bang Chan, spamming their basic photos won’t convince people they’re attractive Anyway New Jeans is the face of kpop and bigger organically than all of our faves At least it's giving more variety than the same old 3rd gen ggs (mainly BP, Twice, and RV) discussion for bazillion times. While we're at it let's talk about 4th gen ggs if y'all think bgs discussion was boring. Current 4th gen ggs popularity: 1) NJ (Gap) 2) IVE (Gap) 3-5) Aespa, Gidle, LSFM in any order (Gap) 6) Itzy 7) StayC 8) Nmixx (Gap) 9) Kep1er Thoughts? 1 1
Pluto6 Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, discreetinside said: At least it's giving more variety than the same old 3rd gen ggs (mainly BP, Twice, and RV) discussion for bazillion times. While we're at it let's talk about 4th gen ggs if y'all think bgs discussion was boring. Current 4th gen ggs popularity: 1) NJ (Gap) 2) IVE (Gap) 3-5) Aespa, Gidle, LSFM in any order (Gap) 6) Itzy 7) StayC 8) Nmixx (Gap) 9) Kep1er Thoughts? NewJeans IVE (G)I-DLE LE SSEARFIM aespa ITZY NMIXX/STAYC/XG Kep1er This is how I think the list looks like, right now 1
Witnessed ET Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, discreetinside said: At least it's giving more variety than the same old 3rd gen ggs (mainly BP, Twice, and RV) discussion for bazillion times. While we're at it let's talk about 4th gen ggs if y'all think bgs discussion was boring. Current 4th gen ggs popularity: 1) NJ (Gap) 2) IVE (Gap) 3-5) Aespa, Gidle, LSFM in any order (Gap) 6) Itzy 7) StayC 8) Nmixx (Gap) 9) Kep1er Thoughts? I’d say that’s pretty accurate tbh.
Kwangya Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, discreetinside said: At least it's giving more variety than the same old 3rd gen ggs (mainly BP, Twice, and RV) discussion for bazillion times. While we're at it let's talk about 4th gen ggs if y'all think bgs discussion was boring. Current 4th gen ggs popularity: 1) NJ (Gap) 2) IVE (Gap) 3-5) Aespa, Gidle, LSFM in any order (Gap) 6) Itzy 7) StayC 8) Nmixx (Gap) 9) Kep1er Thoughts? aespa and gidle are definitely more popular than LSFM in Asia
Sheep Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Current 4th gen ggs popularity: 1) NJ (Gap) 2) IVE (Gap) 3-5) Aespa, Gidle, LSFM in any order (Gap) 6) Itzy 7) StayC 8) Nmixx (Gap) 9) Kep1er NJ are at or near #1 in every metric except touring. IVE are not above aespa in physicals, not above griddle in digitals, and not above Shitzy in touring LSRF are not as big as Shitzy yet who have a very stable base and can tour the world Nstinxx is enormously bigger than StayC The top 4-5 is very close rn other than NJ having the obvious lead and a smash hit from any of them could make them #1(they've all been the #1 4th gen GG at one point or another previously) so the (Gap)s are incredulous. It's hard to compare because most groups other than NJ are huge in one area and lacking in others. aespa destroys everybody in physicals and touring but do not exist on streaming. Griddle and Ive bag hit after hit but are reliant on the gp. LSRF does well all around but isn't on top in any metric. Itzy started out huge but has since become a reliably upper mid-tier group. Edited July 28, 2023 by Century
Witnessed ET Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: The way you just said all these things about bgs and then you went on to praise NJ Where is the self awareness? One thing that is so cringe is that when these random users try to divide bgs and ggs in separate categories and generalize based on gender like there are bgs that are putting out good music and the bgs that are not. Talented and untalented bgs. Same thing with ggs. even in the SAME GROUP, there are talented AND untalented members. i swear y’all can just either do your research on every group before spouting whatever ignorant nonsense, or don’t speak on them AT ALL to begin with. Stop making a fool out of yourselves. yours truly, XOXO ps. Stop piling on @Pluto2022sis because he’s not wrong most times. 1 1
discreetinside Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Adama said: If BP leaves it’s going to be hard for them. Treasure is not big enough to be profitable for YGE. I’ll said it again: YG shouldn’t manage large groups! They just don’t know how to market them, Compared to smaller groups like BB, 2ne1, Winner, BP, and Akmu. Ikon shouldn’t have been 7 members too since it was B.I/Bobby + friends. The same things will happens with Baemon. It’s going to be 2/3 members + friends The current Kpop environment in general are very saturated to the point it's not ideal to debut large group on top of the YG incompetence managing large group. 1
TaylenaStan Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Adama said: If BP leaves it’s going to be hard for them. Treasure is not big enough to be profitable for YGE. I’ll said it again: YG shouldn’t manage large groups! They just don’t know how to market them, Compared to smaller groups like BB, 2ne1, Winner, BP, and Akmu. Ikon shouldn’t have been 7 members too since it was B.I/Bobby + friends. The same things will happens with Baemon. It’s going to be 2/3 members + friends Even better: They shouldnt manage artists period Cant convince me they all wouldnt be even bigger if managed by a better company I guess you have to give them credit in their recruitment department (or they simply got lucky with BB/BP) but thats it Their promo, schedules etc are just the worst by far And large groups are not it imo, i stan TWICE now but them being 9 members made it hard to stan at first. 4-6 members is perfect. Edited July 28, 2023 by TaylenaStan 1
Kwangya Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 5 hours ago, FACT said: LIVE vocals after @Gaia requested Surprised ? These looks are peak fashion Love it Danielle is a top visual, Ador needs to push her move over Somi
Da Vinci Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 I'm just gonna say that BGs in general just have it easier and when they face scandals they usually only get a slap on the wrist. GGs also face higher standards and people always pit them against each other more than BGs (as with all female artists) So I'll automatically side with GGs though I love some BGs 1
Selenasworld Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 If BP leaves YGE will start debuting more artists, getting more comebacks too, they better stop being annoying and start getting come backs with a decent frequency, all big companies have enough trainees to debut more than one boy and a girl group each, and then there's TBL 1
Sheep Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) It's hilarious to me how the anti-sheep have convinced themselves that despite aespa being a sold out stadium, top 10 on circle for months, and highest selling GG album of 2023 type of act that they're below artists who dare not step outside of Korea. It's giving me flashbacks to early 3rd gen when the same type of people said EXO was a fad. Other than NJ who is obviously more popular than them, the only group even getting close to aespa is IVE. Edited July 28, 2023 by Century 2
Asscatchem Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 newjeans topping billboard and theyre just getting started.. in hindsight we dont talk about how badly managed born pink was. yeah we can blame the price but can we really? yg had years to prepare only to be outsold by twice and still had to pull every trick in the book to scrape #1
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