Pluto6 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said: Listening to The Bible tonight.. As you should
OrgVisual Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: Ummm they have several loud and experimental sounds that include EDM. They got famous with cookie cutter pop tunes, they only experimented with more SM-experimental sounds later in their career; which is very different from f(x), RV and aespa's musical direction 1
sunmimi imfurst Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 I never noticed but she lowkey looks like Jinni. Even in the MV I was like wait a sec..
YCHofficial Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: SNSD make headlines again for being relevant and having solo members all successful in various fields across the entertainment Industry💗 Treanding on Daum with netizens praising Girl’s Generation achievements this year alone. Including Yuri having a Viral Disney+ Series and sold out Asian Fanmeet tour. Sooyoung MC HYBE Girl Group Show and another JTBC tv series. Tiffany booked a Korean Drama that is filming this month. Seohyun is booked for a Movie and another Netflix Contract. Hyo just finished a DJ festival Run. 😊 and the obvious fact that YoonA is having one of the biggest K-drama’s of the decade. And Taeyeon Selling out concerts without a new album or single. But ATRL told me only Taeyeon & YoonA were the only relevant ones in 2023🤭 And what is Sunny doing
Save-Me-Oprah Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said: are you even an SKZ stan at this point?
OrgVisual Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, YCHofficial said: And what is Sunny doing Feeding her cat and watching Netflix from her Han river-facing apartment 1
Pluto6 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Sunny is nepotism done right idc Edited July 4, 2023 by Pluto2022 3
FACT Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 The way expérgo is still my guilty pleasure till this day
OrgVisual Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 On a serious note, just very recently Sunny shared her feelings on Bubble 5
sunmimi imfurst Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 I know ppl were dragging Jyp artist just a few pages ago for the quality but I srsly love this video Now release it on Spotify fatties.
Gorjesspazze9 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, YCHofficial said: And what is Sunny doing She a Nepo baby. Binge watching Netflix in her Million Dollar apartment with her cat😃 She set for life and don’t have to deal with Kpop fans online. I say it’s a win win
Gorjesspazze9 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Did someone really just say The Boys is loud and Experimental?
elevate Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Sept said: They got famous with cookie cutter pop tunes, they only experimented with more SM-experimental sounds later in their career; which is very different from f(x), RV and aespa's musical direction I'd make the argument that fx, RV, and Aespa were able to do those things because of SNSD. If it wasn't for their cookie cutter tunes - which is a terrible description for very-well engineered pop, btw - SM wouldn't have had much footing to experiment with the other groups. Also, IGAB was an absolute collapse. There really was no reason they had to shift the trajectory of Kpop with that single. They could have easily just continued with their previous sound. Next Level would not exist without IGAB, for instance. 3
Hay Amores Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 The NMIXX new song Rollercoaster is growing on me. Already played it 3 times this morning. There must be something in the water.
lgaga1fan Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, elevate said: I'd make the argument that fx, RV, and Aespa were able to do those things because of SNSD. If it wasn't for their cookie cutter tunes - which is a terrible description for very-well engineered pop, btw - SM wouldn't have had much footing to experiment with the other groups. Also, IGAB was an absolute collapse. There really was no reason they had to shift the trajectory of Kpop with that single. They could have easily just continued with their previous sound. Next Level would not exist without IGAB, for instance. I didn’t call it particularly experimental but the song is loud, much like every song from that gen.
OrgVisual Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Sunny gonna have a show on Netflix with Hyo actually. Don't know the release date but they released an OST for it
Sheep Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Sept said: They got famous with cookie cutter pop tunes, they only experimented with more SM-experimental sounds later in their career; which is very different from f(x), RV and aespa's musical direction SNSD's debut song is a subversive masterpiece that became the theme song of progressive movements for a decade. SNSD's second song ever released was a cover of a song that sounds nothing like idol music. Their global breakout hit(Gee) is one of the most musically progressive songs to ever come out of kpop with its insanely layered production that pulls influence from the r&b, pop, AND dance trends at the time to create something that sounded like it belonged to none of them. The reliance on nonsensical lyrics and percussive vocal delivery, while not as new as the completely out of left field production, became an enormous trend and key piece of kpop's success outside of Korea, Japan, and China, de-emphasizing the actual lyrics in favor of treating the idols like another instrument to layer into the song. Then we got Genie which was pretty safe and trend following but also the best k=pop song of all time imo so that's okay. Then on their first album they went so far into synth-pop that the samples on the TT sounded like they could have come from a GameBoy and they coupled it with a wild shift in image for the repack. They then followed that up with a very unique blend of guitars and blaring, siren-like synths in Hoot. Going to stop here because once they debuted in Japan the lid was fully off on noisy, experimental music and because this post is already really long but claiming SNSD wasn't extremely dialed in and experimental from day 1 is lunacy. If anything SNSD's inability to settle in on a single sound/image or release plain radio friendly pop directly paved the way for RV and aespa. Edited July 4, 2023 by Century 1
lgaga1fan Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Apologies for double posting and quoting @elevate on accident too, but yeah I agree that it is weird to act like SNSD wasn't taking any risks whatsoever. The singles they put out helped to define a visual and sonic aesthetic for the ENTIRE industry. Reducing that value to "cookie cutter" pop songs is the reason the whole "poptimism" argument is highly incredulous. If a flop nugu group put out those same songs at the same time a lot of people would argue that they were forward thinking. SNSD literally defined KPOP as a genre with their releases and that popularity led to the common belief that their releases were completely cookie cutter. Gee is quite literally a perfect pop song and I haven't heard any group recreate that style or aesthetic as successfully as SNSD. Even their off the shelf bought demos (like Genie) were highly enhanced with stacked harmonies and perfect vocal adlibs. It takes a lot more effort and talent to pull that off than people give credit for. 2 1
FACT Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Still not over how 4th gen main vocalist got done dirty I want to call the police
FACT Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Today is the last day for voting in R U Deaf? Because it’s D1? If you vote for Wonhee I hope you go to jail
OrgVisual Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Century said: SNSD's debut song is a subversive masterpiece that became the theme song of progressive movements for a decade. SNSD's second song ever released was a cover of a song that sounds nothing like idol music. Their global breakout hit(Gee) is one of the most musically progressive songs to ever come out of kpop with its insanely layered production that pulls influence from the r&b, pop, AND dance trends at the time to create something that sounded like it belonged to none of them. The reliance on nonsensical lyrics and percussive vocal delivery, while not as new as the completely out of left field production, became an enormous trend and key piece of kpop's success outside of Korea, Japan, and China, de-emphasizing the actual lyrics in favor of treating the idols like another instrument to layer into the song. Then we got Genie which was pretty safe and trend following but also the best k=pop song of all time imo so that's okay. Then on their first album they went so far into synth-pop that the samples on the TT sounded like they could have come from a GameBoy and they coupled it with a wild shift in image for the repack. They then followed that up with a very unique blend of guitars and blaring, siren-like synths in Hoot. Going to stop here because once they debuted in Japan the lid was fully off on noisy, experimental music and because this post is already really long but claiming SNSD wasn't extremely dialed in and experimental from day 1 is lunacy. If anything SNSD's inability to settle in on a single sound/image or release plain radio friendly pop directly paved the way for RV and aespa. I'm a Sone myself so not saying SNSD released "bad music" per se but more than the fact that their music was a lot more GP-friendly than other SM groups which contributed a lot of their early success, not to mention the bubbly/girl-next-door image was perfect for that time. Like "Kissing You" was their first #1 hit and they literally held giant lollipops on stage 1
White Rabbit Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) I’m watching old variety shows and it’s kinda crazy how K-pop today seems almost worlds away from this Edited July 4, 2023 by White Rabbit
Sheep Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sept said: I'm a Sone myself so not saying SNSD released "bad music" per se but more than the fact that their music was a lot more GP-friendly than other SM groups which contributed a lot of their early success, not to mention the bubbly/girl-next-door image was perfect for that time. Like "Kissing You" was their first #1 hit and they literally held giant lollipops on stage Their image was definitely very bland through most of their run but I very strongly feel that the music wasn't, it's the reason they still stand head and shoulders above other attempts to capture their magic by other companies. There's a reason K-Pop is listed as a separate genre anywhere music is sold or streamed and it's largely in part because of SNSD's very unique blend of sonic influences and the pervasive trends they set once they blew up on the global scene. Kissing You and Baby Baby definitely don't fit in with the rest of their discography at all though in that regard, I still wonder what SM was thinking. Edited July 4, 2023 by Century 1
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