fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[BlackAura]

39 minutes ago, Zack said:

Next Level spent over 2x as long in Circle (Gaon) digital top 5. Longevity wise, those other songs were not doing that (which is what I assume @MonsterNavy was referring to, since they mentioned "freefalling")

 

Next Level became (at the time) the longest charting girl group song ever within the Melon weekly top 10 (27 weeks) and the longest charting girl group song on Melon, of all time (81 weeks) AND the longest ever on Circle digital chart (80 weeks).

 

Plus, after peaking at #1 (surpassing BTS Butter), it repeaked and re-entered the top 20 of Melon again several times later (including over a year later, after it went viral for being used in the Korean presidential campaign).

 

It was a national hit with staying power.

 

Having longevity is not a flex in a environment where the #1 song is at 500-600k uls, when it was 900k-1M back in 2016-2017.

[playboi]

TWICE are better singers than Blackpink and have much better music while being more versatile. I hope this clears things up 

 

[Dialamba]

1 hour ago, MonsterNavy said:

the fact that next level and savage are bigger and better than all of twice's #1s (that freefalls after the 2nd week) combined

 

You’re clearly talking out your ass. Because Cheer up is the biggest GG song of the last decade. They have multiply songs which spent a year on melon. And they have 15 weeks at #1.
Mind you spicy is behind unforgiven on circle chart 
 

[Britney Jean]

This is huge for them, right? They promoted a b-side on M Countdown, last cb Rewind only promoted on The Show iirc, thank you HYBE 

 

 

Also, BSOTY imo, the song, the choreo, their visuals omg. Tons of people are missing out!! 

[MonsterNavy]

18 minutes ago, playboi said:

TWICE are better singers than Blackpink and have much better music while being more versatile. I hope this clears things up 

 

the better music and versatility in question is just switching from kidz bop coco melon'd songs or a tired dua lipa'd disco song that they could never pull off with those chipmunk'd nasal vocals

 

kii

 

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by MonsterNavy

[All In My Head]

The fumes in here over IDLE’s success  they’ve become bigger than groups like AOA and 4Minute. And while you might see them as “meme songs,” Koreans are praising them for having meaningful lyrics - don’t expect them to disappear anytime soon 

Edited June 8, 2023 by All In My Head

[Green Tea Is Green]

Twice and aespa still have many releases to come anyway, while a certain gg's best case scenario is releasing another 8-track album with little to no quality sometime before 2026

[Sugden]

what is this aespa and twice war makes no sense

 

[MonsterNavy]

3 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said:

Twice and aespa still have many releases to come anyway, while a certain gg's best case scenario is releasing another 8-track album with little to no quality sometime before 2026

not a once sneaking twice on the same sentence as aespa as if twice's music is near the quality of aespa's music

 

twice will keep releasing 4 albums a year every 2 weeks the same old songs with zero quality that even their fans don't even listen to (looking at the peaks and streams)

 

[xfreshkidxx]

1 hour ago, Zack said:

Next Level spent over 2x as long in Circle (Gaon) digital top 5. Longevity wise, those other songs were not doing that (which is what I assume @MonsterNavy was referring to, since they mentioned "freefalling")

 

Next Level became (at the time) the longest charting girl group song ever within the Melon weekly top 10 (27 weeks) and the longest charting girl group song on Melon, of all time (81 weeks) AND the longest ever on Circle digital chart (80 weeks).

 

Plus, after peaking at #1 (surpassing BTS Butter), it repeaked and re-entered the top 20 of Melon again several times later (including over a year later, after it went viral for being used in the Korean presidential campaign).

 

It was a national hit with staying power.

 

Mind you "Cheer Up" was tied with Tell Me for most weeks in the Melon top 10 w/ 17 prior to NL and charted for 68 weeks in the top 100 (again a record at the time for GG) so looks like they were doing THAT and in a much more difficult time for charting. 

 

You know what Aespa arent doing? Grabbing a #1 single or YEC #1. 

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by xfreshkidxx

[Zack]

27 minutes ago, BlackAura said:

Having longevity is not a flex in a environment where the #1 song is at 500-600k uls, when it was 900k-1M back in 2016-2017.

Conversely, Melon was 100% real-time based back then, so only hourly ULs really counted, which is how the famous "zombie streaming" originated.

 

Next Level was released during the 24Hits era, which only counted 24 hour ULs for the chart. It was much harder to climb than an hourly based chart, which could change drastically within hours, due to fandom based mass-streaming, which is why Melon made many changes.

 

And it's not so much simply "longevity" for NL, it's more "all time" and "in history". There's a difference.

[newaespa]

very old stats again

 

and ONCE can't even talk about talent and beauty too

[xfreshkidxx]

Just now, newaespa said:

very old stats again

 

and ONCE can't even talk about talent and beauty too

Your the one who brought Twice up dumbass. 

[MonsterNavy]

 

KPOP Girl Groups with most weeks on MelOn TOP 10:

3 - BLACKPINK– 109 - 12 singles
4 - TWICE – 105 - 37 singles

 

nauuurrr they really do be freefalling after the 2nd week

 

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by MonsterNavy

[newaespa]

Just now, xfreshkidxx said:

Your the one who brought Twice up dumbass. 

And what about it? dumbass

[newaespa]

 

damn this is really unprofessional, if you aren't keen to promote your damn hag hag song, then maybe it is time to quit your damn job

 

 

[xfreshkidxx]

1 minute ago, newaespa said:

And what about it? dumbass

We wouldnt be discussing their stats if you wasnt triggered by the fact Asspa cant break their curse of being #2. 

 

Also, not you talking about quality? Last time I checked Twice werent the ones crying over the material they were being given.

[Antunes]

22 minutes ago, Britney Jean said:

This is huge for them, right? They promoted a b-side on M Countdown, last cb Rewind only promoted on The Show iirc, thank you HYBE 

 

 

Also, BSOTY imo, the song, the choreo, their visuals omg. Tons of people are missing out!! 

kinda not. every hybe group has gotten comeback/debut specials, even nugu boynextdoor. meanwhile fromis didn’t even get a set for their comeback stage

 

[OrgVisual]

Yup, Next Level (a #2 hit) is indeed bigger than the majority of #1 hits

 

Same can be said about Hype Boy (#2) and Antifragile (#2). Peak is meaningless in Kpop world

[Zack]

9 minutes ago, xfreshkidxx said:

Mind you "Cheer Up" was tied with Tell Me for most weeks in the Melon top 10 w/ 17 prior to NL and charted for 68 weeks in the top 100 (again a record at the time for GG) so looks like they were doing THAT and in a much more difficult time for charting. 

 

You know what Aespa arent doing? Grabbing a #1 single or YEC #1

As above, it was easier to chart than it is now on Melon, due to the old real-time system which enabled mass streaming, plus Melon usage numbers were much higher. YouTube Music has overtaken Melon in Korea this week as the biggest platform.

 

That being said "all time" and "in history" stats > year end chart. aespa did that and with digitals AND physicals

 

[illia]

Did everyone try the Eve, Psyche & The Bluebeard’s wife? I thought the Eve, Psyche & The Bluebeard’s wife was lovely!

 

[Britney Jean]

5 minutes ago, newaespa said:

 

damn this is really unprofessional, if you aren't keen to promote your damn hag hag song, then maybe it is time to quit your damn job

 

 

I always saw Nayeon as the bitchiest one of the group tbh, in every airport videos i saw she barely gives a smile towards the fans or paparazzis. She gives me pissed off energy all the time. Like, is it that hard to smile? Hare Hare is not even a girl crush song too 

Edited June 8, 2023 by Britney Jean

[newaespa]

2 minutes ago, xfreshkidxx said:

We wouldnt be discussing their stats if you wasnt triggered by the fact Asspa cant break their curse of being #2. 

 

Also, not you talking about quality? Last time I checked Twice werent the ones crying over the material they were being given.

aespa clearly have higher standard

while your TalentlessWICE don't, hence all the songs they released are trash  

 

when even Forever aka aespa's worst song, is still better than TWICE's discography, worry about that

[newaespa]

Just now, Britney Jean said:

I always saw Nayeon as the bitchiest one of the group tbh, like, in every airport videos i saw she barely gives a smile towards the fans or paparazzis. Like, she gives me pissed off energy all the time. Like, is it that hard to smile? Hare Hare is not even a girl crush song too 

talentless, rude, unprofessional

 

this group is truly the pits

[Britney Jean]

5 minutes ago, Antunes said:

kinda not. every hybe group has gotten comeback/debut specials, even nugu boynextdoor. meanwhile fromis didn’t even get a set for their comeback stage

 

Well, that's kind of a good thing i guess, those sets are useless when the stage already has 8 goddesses on it