ariananext Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Celebrity wise it's a no brainer, Abel isn't unknown whatsoever but he's never been much in the public eye, Harry is obviously bigger, and he also has a more hardcore fanbase. Both have a lot of support from the GP but I think The Weeknd's music has a bigger pull on the GP, and he also attracts more people at his shows. Albums wise they're both huge, but I think Abel's bigger, as of today: Harry's House (2022) is the 4th most streamed album daily, Fine Line (2019) the 26th, Harry Styles (2017) the 189th. Starboy (2016) is the 7th and After Hours (2020) the 8th, Dawn FM (2022) the 28th, Beauty Behind The Madness (2015) the 36th, My Dear Melancholy (2018) the 59th. Total numbers: Harry Styles - 3,4B Fine Line - 7B Harry's House - 3,8B Beauty Behind The Madness - 7,2B Starboy - 8,1B My Dear Melancholy, (EP) - 2,5B After Hours - 8,6B Dawn FM - 2,4B Singles wise, although Harry has big hits, his only gigantic hit is As It Was, with Watermelon Sugar being pretty huge too. Abel has Blinding Lights, Save Your Tears, The Hills, Can't Feel My Face, Starboy, with three of them being diamond certified in the US, and 6 number one singles. Abel also has a lot of huge songs other than those, Die For You, I Feel It Coming, Earned It, Call Out My Name. All his hits have insane longevity, just like the parent albums. Touring wise it'll be such a ride to see them both smashing on their current tours, Abel has just sold out a US stadium leg and is currently selling out his European/South American leg with huge demand, I'm not familiar with Harry's touring power, I'm sure he's doing amazing, although I see tickets are still available for his show in my country, where he's huge.
Moonlight Nation Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, ariananext said: Celebrity wise it's a no brainer, Abel isn't unknown whatsoever but he's never been much in the public eye, Harry is obviously bigger, and he also has a more hardcore fanbase. Both have a lot of support from the GP but I think The Weeknd's music has a bigger pull on the GP, and he also attracts more people at his shows. Albums wise they're both huge, but I think Abel's bigger, as of today: Harry's House (2022) is the 4th most streamed album daily, Fine Line (2019) the 26th, Harry Styles (2017) the 189th. Starboy (2016) is the 7th and After Hours (2020) the 8th, Dawn FM (2022) the 28th, Beauty Behind The Madness (2015) the 36th, My Dear Melancholy (2018) the 59th. Total numbers: Harry Styles - 3,4B Fine Line - 7B Harry's House - 3,8B Beauty Behind The Madness - 7,2B Starboy - 8,1B My Dear Melancholy, (EP) - 2,5B After Hours - 8,6B Dawn FM - 2,4B Singles wise, although Harry has big hits, his only gigantic hit is As It Was, with Watermelon Sugar being pretty huge too. Abel has Blinding Lights, Save Your Tears, The Hills, Can't Feel My Face, Starboy, with three of them being diamond certified in the US, and 6 number one singles. Abel also has a lot of huge songs other than those, Die For You, I Feel It Coming, Earned It, Call Out My Name. All his hits have insane longevity, just like the parent albums. Touring wise it'll be such a ride to see them both smashing on their current tours, Abel has just sold out a US stadium leg and is currently selling out his European/South American leg with huge demand, I'm not familiar with Harry's touring power, I'm sure he's doing amazing, although I see tickets are still available for his show in my country, where he's huge. Killer assessment and stats breakdown from your part!
Gorjesspazze9 Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, vale9001 said: As it was is coming for Blinding lights total on Spotify. The fact you don't understand the streaming market and how it becames bigger and bigger and you call every #1 of the most recent year the biggest song of all time. What are you talking about streaming ??where did I even bring streaming up? Blinding lights is certified as one of the most successful songs of all time by billboard metrics and digital downloads ? and the longest running #1 song in the charts history.
Mark Rih Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, vale9001 said: As it was is coming for Blinding lights total on Spotify. The fact you don't understand the streaming market and how it becames bigger and bigger and you call every #1 of the most recent year the biggest song of all time. Is it tho? Blinding Lights is still pulling 1.8M streams daily after more than 3 years since its release; we don't know if AIW will have the same longevity. OT: The one who released the greatest Hot 100 hit of all timeTM and inspired other to release ripoffs of it, has currently 10 songs in the Spotify top 200 WW, and is on a sold out global stadium tour
brainmaniac Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 The Weeknd obviously. Harry doesn’t even come close
Montreal Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, inmymendes said: If they were both to release albums and singles tomorrow, Harry would debut at #1 and definitely outsell The Weeknd, especially in pure sales & vinyl. Harry is bigger and more famous right now If both smash like you say, then the weeknd's album will def have more longevity than harry's in the long term. Longevity > Peak. Example: Harry's House debuted with more units then After Hours but it won't even come close to the success AH had. Edited December 2, 2022 by Montreal
inmymendes Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Montreal said: If both smash like you say, then the weeknd's album will def have more longevity than harry's in the long term. Longevity > Peak. Example: Harry's House debuted with more units then After Hours but it won't even come close to the success AH had. I love The Weeknd but Harry is a much bigger celebrity and he is bigger right now in 2022. He’s the biggest english singing male pop artist in the world right now. He keeps getting bigger while The Weeknd has already reached his peak. Edited December 2, 2022 by inmymendes
Montreal Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, inmymendes said: I love The Weeknd but Harry is a much bigger celebrity and he is bigger right now in 2022. He’s the biggest english singing male pop artist in the world right now. He keeps getting bigger while The Weeknd has already reached his peak. ??? The weeknd literally reached a new peak today. Harry styles is prolly a bigger celebrity but we talking about music here not movies and fashion
ariananext Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, inmymendes said: I love The Weeknd but Harry is a much bigger celebrity and he is bigger right now in 2022. He’s the biggest english singing male pop artist in the world right now. He keeps getting bigger while The Weeknd has already reached his peak. Abel has 3 huge eras: Beauty Behind The Madness, Starboy and After Hours, Harry has just one that comes close and it's Fine Line, and even then maybe it's a reach, we will see in ~5 years if three of his albums managed to reach those three albums success. Considering that Starboy and After Hours recurrent streams are almost on par with Harry's House's, a recent release, I doubt it will happen.
inmymendes Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, ariananext said: Abel has 3 huge eras: Beauty Behind The Madness, Starboy and After Hours, Harry has just one that comes close and it's Fine Line, and even then maybe it's a reach, we will see in ~5 years if three of his albums managed to reach those three albums success. Considering that Starboy and After Hours recurrent streams are almost on par with Harry's House's, a recent release, I doubt it will happen. This thread is about the 2020s Overall The Weeknd has had a bigger career Currently Harry is bigger
ariananext Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, inmymendes said: This thread is about the 2020s Overall The Weeknd has had a bigger career Currently Harry is bigger The charts and the tour numbers say differently
inmymendes Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, ariananext said: The charts and the tour numbers say differently Yeah Harry doing residencies of 15 shows in a row at Madison Square Garden…
inmymendes Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2022 Billboard Year End Charts Artists Billboard 200 Albums Billboard Global 200 Billboard Hot 100
Thinking Of You Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 The Weeknd is the bigger artist. Harry is the bigger celebrity.
Montreal Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, inmymendes said: In 2022 Harry is the bigger artist too this thread is about the 2020s decade. not just one year of the 2020s decade
Moonlight Nation Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Another interesting bit of trivia worth sharing... And that's from 2022, where Harry is supposedly 'the biggest English-singing male pop artist in the world'. Again, this doesn't discredit his success and mainstream presence, plus everyone here agrees Styles is the much bigger public figure (mostly because Abel avoids interviews and late night shows like the plague, really). But on a musical standpoint, The Weeknd still sets the standard for pop boy dominance this decade. @inmymendes, funny how you conveniently excluded "The Highlights" (the 10th biggest album of the year according to Billboard) from your screenshots. The Weeknd's greatest hits compilation ended up cannibalizing the chart runs of his other albums, including "Starboy", so this comparison is unfair. I'm confident both "After Hours" and "Starboy" got more consumption this year in the US than "Fine Line", even more so globally. You also ignored that "Dawn FM" ended up as the 18th biggest album of the year despite not having any hits, but I guess that didn't fit the narrative you were trying to push. And sorry, I don't see how "Save Your Tears" scoring great positions for its second year in a row proves how Harry is ahead of him. Looking forward to seeing "As It Was" ' Year End positions in 2023.
Montreal Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Moonlight Nation said: Another interesting bit of trivia worth sharing... And that's from 2022, where Harry is supposedly 'the biggest English-singing male pop artist in the world'. Again, this doesn't discredit his success and mainstream presence, plus everyone here agrees Styles is the much bigger public figure (mostly because Abel avoids interviews and late night shows like the plague, really). But on a musical standpoint, The Weeknd still sets the standard for pop boy dominance this decade. @inmymendes, funny how you conveniently excluded "The Highlights" (the 10th biggest album of the year according to Billboard) from your screenshots. The Weeknd's greatest hits compilation ended up cannibalizing the chart runs of his other albums, including "Starboy", so this comparison is unfair. I'm confident both "After Hours" and "Starboy" got more consumption this year in the US than "Fine Line", even more so globally. You also ignored that "Dawn FM" ended up as the 18th biggest album of the year despite not having any hits, but I guess that didn't fit the narrative you were trying to push. And sorry, I don't see how "Save Your Tears" scoring great positions for its second year in a row proves how Harry is ahead of him. Looking forward to seeing "As It Was" ' Year End positions in 2023. You always come in at the right time with THE right post. Respect.
Gerardo Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Numbers wise is bad bunny but if you guys wanna go about WW success it’s Abel
Blackout2006 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 9:33 PM, XAMJ said: Neither its bad bunny On 12/2/2022 at 9:36 PM, unclefloprry said: Bad bunny #2. The Weeknd the industry plant is nothing without payola, look Golden and MFASR On 12/2/2022 at 9:50 PM, RihFenty20 said: Bad Bunn y is trending better. He's not global tho He is only big in the Latin American and North American markets, with the exception of certain few European countries (with a Latin background).
Blackout2006 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 11:48 PM, ariananext said: Celebrity wise it's a no brainer, Abel isn't unknown whatsoever but he's never been much in the public eye, Harry is obviously bigger, and he also has a more hardcore fanbase. Both have a lot of support from the GP but I think The Weeknd's music has a bigger pull on the GP, and he also attracts more people at his shows. Albums wise they're both huge, but I think Abel's bigger, as of today: Harry's House (2022) is the 4th most streamed album daily, Fine Line (2019) the 26th, Harry Styles (2017) the 189th. Starboy (2016) is the 7th and After Hours (2020) the 8th, Dawn FM (2022) the 28th, Beauty Behind The Madness (2015) the 36th, My Dear Melancholy (2018) the 59th. Total numbers: Harry Styles - 3,4B Fine Line - 7B Harry's House - 3,8B Beauty Behind The Madness - 7,2B Starboy - 8,1B My Dear Melancholy, (EP) - 2,5B After Hours - 8,6B Dawn FM - 2,4B Singles wise, although Harry has big hits, his only gigantic hit is As It Was, with Watermelon Sugar being pretty huge too. Abel has Blinding Lights, Save Your Tears, The Hills, Can't Feel My Face, Starboy, with three of them being diamond certified in the US, and 6 number one singles. Abel also has a lot of huge songs other than those, Die For You, I Feel It Coming, Earned It, Call Out My Name. All his hits have insane longevity, just like the parent albums. Touring wise it'll be such a ride to see them both smashing on their current tours, Abel has just sold out a US stadium leg and is currently selling out his European/South American leg with huge demand, I'm not familiar with Harry's touring power, I'm sure he's doing amazing, although I see tickets are still available for his show in my country, where he's huge. I think this sums it up pretty well
ariananext Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 17 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: Another interesting bit of trivia worth sharing... And that's from 2022, where Harry is supposedly 'the biggest English-singing male pop artist in the world'. Again, this doesn't discredit his success and mainstream presence, plus everyone here agrees Styles is the much bigger public figure (mostly because Abel avoids interviews and late night shows like the plague, really). But on a musical standpoint, The Weeknd still sets the standard for pop boy dominance this decade. @inmymendes, funny how you conveniently excluded "The Highlights" (the 10th biggest album of the year according to Billboard) from your screenshots. The Weeknd's greatest hits compilation ended up cannibalizing the chart runs of his other albums, including "Starboy", so this comparison is unfair. I'm confident both "After Hours" and "Starboy" got more consumption this year in the US than "Fine Line", even more so globally. You also ignored that "Dawn FM" ended up as the 18th biggest album of the year despite not having any hits, but I guess that didn't fit the narrative you were trying to push. And sorry, I don't see how "Save Your Tears" scoring great positions for its second year in a row proves how Harry is ahead of him. Looking forward to seeing "As It Was" ' Year End positions in 2023. 57 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: He's not global tho He is only big in the Latin American and North American markets, with the exception of certain few European countries (with a Latin background). I've always found it weird how he's not big in Italy when latin music is the most popular non-italian music her
Blackout2006 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, ariananext said: I've always found it weird how he's not big in Italy when latin music is the most popular non-italian music her Latin music is big in Italy? Woah. What's the scene for Western pop?
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