celeb megathread Celeb Megathread 2024: Drag performer Shangela accused of multiple sexual assaults

[Both Sides Now]

36 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. 
 

And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 

 

I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize,

 

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I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. 

 

That was a harrowing and scary read@WeFoundTrouble. All I can hope is that you are doing better and DJ faces justice. 

[PoisonedIvy]

9 minutes ago, WhoWho said:

I’m so sorry that you had to go through that

 

Have you ever considered going to the authorities?

I thought about it at the time but I never really thought it would amount to anything. Male on male sexual abuse is statistically harder to result in any convictions. I didn’t have any significant bruising, fluids, (since he didn’t penetrate) or physical evidence on me.. just stuff on my phone (pics, videos, snaps, etc) that prove we were in the same places at the same times. I guess there would’ve been signs of a struggle in the closet but I didn’t even remember the door number or the building number of the apartment the next day, I only remembered the complex we were in. There were no witnesses when he took me in the bathroom to vouch for my story either, so I really just had to let it go.
 

Plus I was met with so much disbelief on here when I shared that story at the time that I knew it’d probably have been the same outcome, or worse, if I’d shared my story on any more of a public scale. 
 

It sucks because if someone sexually assaults you, but you aren’t r*ped, oftentimes there’s little to no evidence that can convict them. It’s unfortunate that someone has to endure one of the worst traumas just to walk away with enough evidence to convict someone, and even then that’s dependent on the emotional and mental strength and bravery of the victim.

[nathanspears]

This is disgusting wtf

[FightForTanas]

43 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

 

And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 

 

 

 

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I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. 

 

You cant send someone to jail for an accusation and that is a GOOD thing.

[PoisonedIvy]

8 minutes ago, FOCK said:

The accuser is providing more context about legal pursuits etc, in the RPDRDRAMA sub, under the name “AggressiveAsk”, here.

 

He was informed he had to file in Louisiana and he can’t afford the flights, someone provided an alternative, though he explains he’s got work commitments until January. Names a detective he spoke with that would not take his statement over the phone. 

 

Someone has also posted the accusations made by the ATRL user in this thread (not me to be clear, I don’t post on this toxic sub), so @WeFoundTrouble, if you aren’t comfortable with your experience being spread, just a heads up. 

Thanks for notifying me, I just read the post. I’m not entirely uncomfortable with it being discussed in relation to the ongoing accusation, but I’m not trying to bring too much attention to myself anymore either at this point. I’ll keep an eye on the subreddit and post anything if I need to. 

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, FightForTanas said:

You cant send someone to jail for an accusation and that is a GOOD thing.

I’m not trying to send Shangela to jail. What I do hope, however, is that more people will be aware of these accusations and be more cautious around DJ so that his actions don’t continue to hurt unsuspecting people.

 

I wouldn’t have agreed to hang out with him that night if there was public knowledge of any sexual assault accusations against him. I agreed because I thought it would be fun and exciting to hang out with someone who seemed so great from what i had seen on tv. But I was young and naive at the time. I mean hell I still am in a lot of ways lol.  

[FOCK]

5 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Thanks for notifying me, I just read the post. I’m not entirely uncomfortable with it being discussed in relation to the ongoing accusation, but I’m not trying to bring too much attention to myself anymore either at this point. I’ll keep an eye on the subreddit and post anything if I need to. 

No probs 

 

I edited my post to add, that with DJ having a higher profile in recent years, it may open victims/accusers up to potential legal risks, harassment or media contact etc, so just be careful if you’re hoping to avoid the circus. 

Edited November 30, 2022 by FOCK

[Thickorita]

9 minutes ago, FightForTanas said:

You cant send someone to jail for an accusation and that is a GOOD thing.

I just performed a pagan curse on you and your life will never see peace ever again. Prepare for a downward spiral to hell.

[Bhabylon]

30 minutes ago, WhoWho said:

Gags surrounded by predators again

 

are we even surprised at this point?

 

OP: this is honestly terrifying 

Why are you trying to twist this and blame it on Gaga? Tf is wrong with you

 

OT: 

Very disappointed

[eli's_rhythm]

1 hour ago, publikcitizen said:

fox news is going to jump on this if not soon. 

No they won't because it's a gay man who is making the claim.

[eli's_rhythm]

1 hour ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. 
 

And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 

 

I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize,

 

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I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. 

 

I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story. ******* awful for that to happen to you period, but particularly when it's a beloved public figure whose career was exploding at the time. It makes it so much harder to speak up and have people believe you. This honestly doesn't surprise me at all, I always felt like there was something shady about him and his overly happy facade.

[WhoWho]

19 minutes ago, Bhabylon said:

Why are you trying to twist this and blame it on Gaga? Tf is wrong with you

 

OT: 

Very disappointed

No one is trying to blame it on Gaga. I’ve just noticed interesting behaviour pattern of hers

[BionicWooHoo]

I haven’t forgotten about the PV thing either. Clearly she lacks a moral compass. Disgusting 

[Katy V.!]

Damn, I was expecting this to be mild harrasment and not actual rape. I'm so sorry to all the victims, including fellow atrlers.

 

I hope Fox News inevitable picking this up doesn't lead (too much) to revictimization. 

[Graves]

1 hour ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. 
 

And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 

 

I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize,

 

  Reveal hidden contents

I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. 

 

Your account of those events struck me so hard back then and always stayed with me. I'm very sorry for what you went through, and again when you told all of us the story. I wish people had been less hard on you, because I know that one of my friends in the local scene over here had some kind of similar experience with Shangela that they have never been ready to speak about. I can only commend your bravery in coming forward way back when.

[Meev]

2 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. 
 

And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 

 

I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize,

 

  Reveal hidden contents

I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. 

 

I’m so sorry that this happened to you. I definitely understand you not wanting to take legal action, as I had been sexually assaulted as well and it was hallowing reliving the experience again and the perpetrator and his friends arguing against you. I feel that even if you lose due to lack of evidence, it still stops the person from doing it against other people since sooner or later someone will win the case against them.

 

Hope you are healed from what happened to you before. Love, Meev.

[Vermillion]

1 hour ago, FOCK said:

The accuser is providing more context about legal pursuits etc, in the RPDRDRAMA sub, under the name “AggressiveAsk”, here.

 

He was informed he had to file in Louisiana and he can’t afford the flights, someone provided an alternative, though he explains he’s got work commitments until January. Names a detective he spoke with that would not take his statement over the phone. 

 

Someone has also posted the accusations made by the ATRL user in this thread (not me to be clear, I don’t post on this toxic sub), so @WeFoundTrouble, if you aren’t comfortable with your experience being spread, just a heads up, as it may open things up to legal battles, media contact etc. 

Whoa whoa WHOA this is escalating quickly. Just as an aside when legal has gotten involved on here (back in the late 2000s when I was lurking before joining in 2011, also it wasn't copyright or assault related) the thread was quickly closed and scrubbed. I appreciate their candor and don't know if things have changed since then but just as a forewarning to any parties here with a story (and it sounds like we're implying there's two? If I'm not mistaken). 

[Champagne]

I had a similar experience (not with DJ) and this was really hard to read. I believe them, even though I loved Shangela. Just sucks. 

[PoisonedIvy]

23 minutes ago, Subomie said:

Your account of those events struck me so hard back then and always stayed with me. I'm very sorry for what you went through, and again when you told all of us the story. I wish people had been less hard on you, because I know that one of my friends in the local scene over here had some kind of similar experience with Shangela that they have never been ready to speak about. I can only commend your bravery in coming forward way back when.

Thank you, it’s really supportive to hear that my story stuck with you (and a few others) even back then. I was met with a lot of criticism and I didn’t have the mental or emotional strength that I do today, maybe things would be different if it happened now. But I’m here for any other victims of SA if they ever need any support of any kind. 

4 minutes ago, Meev said:

I’m so sorry that this happened to you. I definitely understand you not wanting to take legal action, as I had been sexually assaulted as well and it was hallowing reliving the experience again and the perpetrator and his friends arguing against you. I feel that even if you lose due to lack of evidence, it still stops the person from doing it against other people since sooner or later someone will win the case against them.

 

Hope you are healed from what happened to you before. Love, Meev.

Thank you  Im so sorry you have been through SA as well. I don’t wish that on anyone, it’s a really tragic thing that happens and it’s difficult to talk about or get help in the moment. Time helps the wounds close though, for me at least, and I hope it’s been the same for you. If I could go back and give myself the courage to try and take action I would. I’ve got hindsight now that I didn’t have them. The end goal of that wouldn’t be justice for something that had already happened to me in the past, but to prevent worse things from happening to others in the future. 

[Bussea]

of course it’s a Kim stan trying to act like this person is lying

 

OT: have no idea who Shangela is, but she sounds like serial predator  i hope this leads to an official investigation and she gets the punishment she deserves

[Bussea]

Sending you love @WeFoundTrouble. I’m so sorry you had to experience this

[Blankspace2010]

3 hours ago, satellites.™ said:

Accusation, so be VERY careful ladies.

 

We've been down this road before.

Exactly 

[Mikeymoonshine]

Sorry that happened to you @WeFoundTrouble nobody deserves that. 

[liquiddiamonds]

2 hours ago, FightForTanas said:

You cant send someone to jail for an accusation and that is a GOOD thing.

You’re ******* trash and im willing to debut my first warning point over it. You know exactly what type of **** you’re doin to a SA victim. Even if you were to doubt you could do it respectfully by scrolling past it instead of playin devils advocate when we all know you were on the Kim Petras thread with the same bs regarding Luke. At this point just own it up as an enabler for these nasty people just like your damn flop of a fav instead of acting holier than thou for being another ******* walking this earth. TRASH! 

 

OT: I hope more victims come forward. We don’t want this in our drag circles. This is not welcomed. 

[Gui Blackout]

@WeFoundTrouble I don't even know what to say. So sorry this happened to you, and sorry that you were met with skepticism. I believe you. You're incredibly brave and I hope you're in a good place and healing from this trauma. Sending you and all survivors much love