God_Donna Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Danny789 said: Was the femme shaming really necessary in a thread about SA? I think what I said is pretty much accurate for anybody. And wasn’t trying to femme shame. I saw people say this may be untrue so let’s not believe it just yet. So I’m saying, no one is gonna lie about rupaul raping them. Chris brown ? Sure. Not rupaul. Im not shaming anyone it’s just a fact imo. Not all drag queens or femme. They are however men who dress like woman tho. So all I’m saying is no one is gonna lie about a drag queen raping them. Nobody’s ants that news out. It’s embarrassing.
Riot Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 He's been ignoring the accusations and he's just posting promo pictures of We're Here on IG, basically the same tactic he used during the Puerto Vallarta mess
WEEKND Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: i don't watch the show so i don't really know the contestants by name. anyhow, based on the comments, this appears to be believable from shangela. lol I had a feeling that u were smart and could easily swing this to “gagas costar is accused of rape” ??? people on this website are masters of this sort of things but yeah back on topic this is provably true and it’s very sad,
PoisonedIvy Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Weld_E said: I think it was you. I am once again sorry for your experience and sorry for some of the nasty replies you got from certain posters. If I remember correctly, @TheOnlyOne and someone else (possibly that Chanel poster?) were calling you a liar and viscously attacking you when you shared your story. They owe you a serious apology for their disgusting behavior. It’s not even that I expect or want an apology for myself, I just don’t want more people to come out with their experiences and be doubted, it lets the perpetrator get away unscathed. Keeping them in a position where they can repeat the same actions and harm others. It’s sick.
FightForTanas Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Ricky Martin teas and we know how that went. ATRL trashed him, called him a pedophile said he was over and should be cancelled then the accuser took it back and ATRL said "We lOvE HIm AgaIn!?" Edited November 30, 2022 by FightForTanas
MadonnasBoyfriend Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 I belive it. Being a drag queen does not give you a pass to do whatever you want
Beyonnaise Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: It’s not even that I expect or want an apology for myself, I just don’t want more people to come out with their experiences and be doubted, it lets the perpetrator get away unscathed. Keeping them in a position where they can repeat the same actions and harm others. It’s sick. I was only a fan of Drag Race in 2018 and frequented the thread, I remember you posting this and people doubting you, I'm sorry you had to go through that.
publikcitizen Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 fox news is going to jump on this if not soon.
Riot Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, FightForTanas said: Ricky Martin teas and we know how that went. ATRL trashed him, called him a pedophophile said he was over and should be cancelled then the accuser took it back and ATRL said "We lOvE HIm AgaIn!?" Except there's a person on this very thread who shared similar accusations 4 years ago. And nobody cares about Shangela that much to make fake stories about her.
Weld_E Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, 305 said: Don't know if we are referring to the same one but I know someone IRL that is a member and had this experience If the person you're referring to is not @WeFoundTrouble, then that makes it TWO ATRL posters with similar experiences... What are the odds of two ATRL posters and numerous people on Twitter sharing similar experiences of Shangela being predatory? Sherry Pie got (rightfully) cancelled by the entire Drag Race community yet Shangela remains unscathed with more and more accusations over time...
PennywiseTheClown Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 If this is true then it's disgusting I never expected this from her honestly
FightForTanas Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Riot said: Except there's a person on this very thread who shared similar accusations 4 years ago. And nobody cares about Shangela that much to make fake stories about her. Anyone with even an ounce of fame will get stories made up about them. You cant just say you were assaulted then sentence someone to jail thats not how the world works.
Alt Facts Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: I’m not sure if you mean me or if there was another person I’m unaware of that you could be referring to, But I do know I shared my experience with Shangela here on ATRL back in September of 2018. a lot of people were calling me a liar and attacking me though. But I mean, that’s the nature of sharing these types of encounters with notable public figures. I hope this story can gain some traction so that he doesn’t continue to have the opportunities to continue to do these kinds of things to more people. Can you reshare or link to your original post? I’ve never heard any of this about her. I’m shocked and sad. This vaguely reminds me of Jerry on cheer. Sometimes it’s the ones you least expect
305 Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, FightForTanas said: Anyone with even an ounce of fame will get stories made up about them. You cant just say you were assaulted then sentence someone to jail thats not how the world works. It's not made up.
PoisonedIvy Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I was only a fan of Drag Race in 2018 and frequented the thread, I remember you posting this and people doubting you, I'm sorry you had to go through that. I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. 13 minutes ago, FightForTanas said: Anyone with even an ounce of fame will get stories made up about them. You cant just say you were assaulted then sentence someone to jail thats not how the world works. And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. 9 minutes ago, Alt Facts said: Can you reshare or link to your original post? I’ve never heard any of this about her. I’m shocked and sad. This vaguely reminds me of Jerry on cheer. Sometimes it’s the ones you least expect I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize, Spoiler I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. Edited November 30, 2022 by WeFoundTrouble
Orsay Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, God_Donna said: No one, and I mean no one. Is gonna say a DRAGQUEEN rapped them if it isn't true. It’s not like he’s claiming Justin Bieber did it. He’s talking about a drag queen and even for a gay man I’m sure that’s pretty embarrassing. I feel sorry for him. That’s horrible and people who rape. Should be pretty much killed imo. It’s beyond. And completely inexcusable. so you're saying we should be MORE willing to believe victims if their rapist was a drag queen? thats a dangerous and honestly homophobic line of thinking
Alt Facts Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize, Reveal hidden contents I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. Thank you for your willingness to share sis. Very sorry you went through that
Orsay Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: I appreciate you saying that. I stopped watching Drag Race shortly after and I’ve just never really been able to get back into the franchise since then. I’ve moved past that situation though. It’s all I could do. But I’m sending my heart to the person who shared the experience in the OP, it sounds even so much worse than what I experienced. And yet on the other side of that coin, when a person with notoriety is accused, they are given the benefit of the doubt so much so that it discourages victims from pursuing any sort of legal retribution for the perpetrator. Shangela has money and resources that most of the general population won’t have, and cases of rape or sexual assault are already difficult enough to prove without witnesses or physical evidence like r*pe kits. If someone is carrying out these actions in private, there’s already no witnesses. Add to that the shame and guilt that comes along with the experience and the backlog for kits in this country and you’re basically fighting a losing battle before you’ve even begun. I don’t think I can link the original post since ATRL removed a lot of old threads and posts at some point within the last year and a half, right? But if the RPDR thread still has posts from 2018 intact let me know. I haven’t been in there in years. I can do my best to locate it. I won’t go into excruciating detail but to summarize, Hide contents I worked at a gay bar in Texas that DJ (Shangela) and Liam Riley (gay p*rn star) were drinking at one night in September 2018. I got off early and DJ invited me to join them as they continued bar hopping. I was excited at the prospect so I tagged along. At the end of the night when the bars were closed I attended an after party in an apartment of someone DJ knew. Everyone started to leave and DJ told me he wanted to give me something before I left, he led me in a closet in the bathroom (I wouldn’t have followed him in there if I knew that’s where he was taking me) and then he tried to force himself on me. He kept trying to pull my pants down and shove himself in me.. but I wouldn’t let him penetrate. I was really drunk and tired so I couldn’t fight back enough to get away or leave. So I laid there flat on my stomach, his knee on my back, and he masturbated until he came on my backside. It was disgusting and I felt really humiliated and ashamed. I walked home not knowing what to say or what to do so I just told a few of my closest friends and decided to post about it here on ATRL where I felt like I could get some community support but instead I was met with a lot of doubt. Which, fair enough, is what tends to happen in these situations. I'm so sorry you had to go through this and then face doubt when you opened up about it, smh. Hopefully all of this circulates and there are repercussions for DJ. extremely disappointing
WhoWho Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, fridayteenage said: this is the one from a star is born, yes? Gags surrounded by predators again are we even surprised at this point? OP: this is honestly terrifying Edited November 30, 2022 by WhoWho
WhoWho Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: It’s not even that I expect or want an apology for myself, I just don’t want more people to come out with their experiences and be doubted, it lets the perpetrator get away unscathed. Keeping them in a position where they can repeat the same actions and harm others. It’s sick. I’m so sorry that you had to go through that Have you ever considered going to the authorities?
JustHoran Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Horrible, and he was just on DWTS. Glad he didn't win.
lillavend3r Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Some people are missing the point here. Ricky Martin's case was just one fake accusation. Shangela had SEVERAL accusations through out the years
FOCK Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) The accuser is providing more context about legal pursuits etc, in the RPDRDRAMA sub, under the name “AggressiveAsk”, here. He was informed he had to file in Louisiana and he can’t afford the flights, someone provided an alternative, though he explains he’s got work commitments until January. Names a detective he spoke with that would not take his statement over the phone. Someone has also posted the accusations made by the ATRL user in this thread (not me to be clear, I don’t post on this toxic sub), so @WeFoundTrouble, if you aren’t comfortable with your experience being spread, just a heads up, as it may open things up to legal battles, media contact etc. Edited November 30, 2022 by FOCK
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