Into The Void Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 I kinda agree with Blair she made points ngl
FreeXone Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, Communion said: Well some dolls are going to leave them gagging whether they like it or not so enjoy the view I guess. Well you can’t get mad that some of us dolls oppose it. It causes more harm than good.
CandleGuy Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 You can disagree with what Blaire stands for, and other videos she has mad, but she made very valid points here.
Communion Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, FreeXone said: some of us dolls oppose it Literally no one cares besides Blaire White because it pays her bills to get views from transphobes. And I guess you. It is largely a non-issue - Blaire's entire argument is that TOO MANY people are TOO ACCEPTING of Dylan and how this will somehow be bad in the long-run!! (LOL!) This kind of bastardized, bad faith take on "identity politics" doesn't work when done in the service of reactionary conservative politics. Just like no one cares if Candance Owens decides to go off about someone being a bad representation for black women; someone can't feign to care about the descriptive representation of a marginalized group while making it clear that they do not care about the material reality of that group. If you're conservative enough to dehumanize another trans woman because she doesn't hate herself enough to deny the reality that she is a woman, has a dick, and thus some women have dicks, that's not her problem. You of course have the right to do what you want with your body, but no one is going to listen to a Trump supporter like Blaire who claims freedom is about personal liberties.... but only if you're not a woman with a dick, to which then society should be able to control your body. Some men have vaginas. Some women have penises. Get over it.
Into The Void Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 1:16 PM, FreeXone said: I mean the statement “women have bulges” alone was cringe Asf. Biologically women are not born with a ***** lol Dylans whole Tik-tok screams of attention seeking
Communion Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Insanity said: Dylans whole Tik-tok screams of attention seeking Aren't you someone who has dedicated themselves to defending Tik Tok's in which a cishet man like Charlie Puth speaks at-length about how much he loves sex or the shape and details of his cock and genitals, all while doing things for attention like deepthroating phallic-shaped foods like bananas and popsicles, or repeatedly showing off his feet and armpits, as he goes about stretching his body in ways that simulate anal sex? Am I supposed to believe someone in good faith finds this appropriate and fine: But is not being prejudicial when claiming an enthusiastic trans woman is.. "attention seeking"? You can't beg Charlie to show cock and then be outraged when a trans woman acknowledges her's. Edited November 27, 2022 by Communion
Into The Void Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Communion said: Aren't you someone who has dedicated themselves to defending Tik Tok's in which a cishet man like Charlie Puth speaks at-length about how much he loves sex or the shape and details of his cock, all while doing things like deepthroating phallic-shaped foods like bananas and popsicles, or repeatedly shows off his feet and armpits, while stretching his body in ways that simulate anal sex? Am I supposed to believe someone in good faith finds this appropriate and fine: But is not being prejudicial when claiming an enthusiastic trans woman is.. "attention seeking"? You can't beg Charlie to show cock and then be outraged when a trans woman acknowledges her's. Edited November 27, 2022 by Insanity
FreeXone Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Communion said: Literally no one cares besides Blaire White because it pays her bills to get views from transphobes. And I guess you. It is largely a non-issue - Blaire's entire argument is that TOO MANY people are TOO ACCEPTING of Dylan and how this will somehow be bad in the long-run!! (LOL!) This kind of bastardized, bad faith take on "identity politics" doesn't work when done in the service of reactionary conservative politics. Just like no one cares if Candance Owens decides to go off about someone being a bad representation for black women; someone can't feign to care about the descriptive representation of a marginalized group while making it clear that they do not care about the material reality of that group. If you're conservative enough to dehumanize another trans woman because she doesn't hate herself enough to deny the reality that she is a woman, has a dick, and thus some women have dicks, that's not her problem. You of course have the right to do what you want with your body, but no one is going to listen to a Trump supporter like Blaire who claims freedom is about personal liberties.... but only if you're not a woman with a dick, to which then society should be able to control your body. Some men have vaginas. Some women have penises. Get over it. Dylan is this you sis? It is not transphobic to say if you are going to be a woman that you should tuck in public spaces! Like what is this madness? If cis women get heat for camel toe she can DEF get some heat for walking around swinging in her skirt. Here you go doll: https://www.tuckituppp.com
Communion Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, FreeXone said: It is not transphobic to say The only madness is you still trying to appease conservatives. It's madness that a shooter barely a week ago ran into a gay club and unloaded bullets into 20+ people, killing five of them, and you in some hope of appeasing some internal conservative roots you may have (?) are still punching down at other trans women as somehow the root of any problems. A trans woman deciding she won't tuck on a certain day literally has zero impact on any societal event. It will move the needle in absolutely no way. Again, the only explanation for you to have these kind of views where you suggest otherwise over girl-bulge is that you're peddling this conservative nonsense on purpose. Because all these criticisms do is expose the contradictory nature of conservatism. You and Blaire, at the same time, are criticizing Dylan for 1) having a 'stereotypical" relationship with femininity but then also for 2) not meeting performative expectations of womanhood, yelling at her that "YOUR ***** MUST BE FLAT!!! ALL WOMEN HAVE PERFECTLY FLAT GROINS!!". You think you're helping end misogynistic views on female genitals but you're only reiterating the idea that womanhood is defined by a non-realistic, male-gazed driven view of female genitals. What's next, attacking trans women with armpit hair? You can't actually even articulate how a trans woman not covering her groin up to ensure a stranger won't stick their face near her crotch to ensure it is perfectly flat does any harm besides being "cringe".
rzal Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 8 hours ago, FreeXone said: Dylan is this you sis? It is not transphobic to say if you are going to be a woman that you should tuck in public spaces! Like what is this madness? If cis women get heat for camel toe she can DEF get some heat for walking around swinging in her skirt. Here you go doll: https://www.tuckituppp.com Dylan kinda agrees with you now so this whole convo is funny
Mr. Blue_Shirt Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Communion said: Aren't you someone who has dedicated themselves to defending Tik Tok's in which a cishet man like Charlie Puth speaks at-length about how much he loves sex or the shape and details of his cock and genitals, all while doing things for attention like deepthroating phallic-shaped foods like bananas and popsicles, or repeatedly showing off his feet and armpits, as he goes about stretching his body in ways that simulate anal sex? Am I supposed to believe someone in good faith finds this appropriate and fine: But is not being prejudicial when claiming an enthusiastic trans woman is.. "attention seeking"? You can't beg Charlie to show cock and then be outraged when a trans woman acknowledges her's.
BTS Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Blair has a history of terrorising trans girls who don’t “pass”. Dylan is the most trendy trans. Just look up her videos about Riley Dennis, a woman she misgendered and terrorised for years because she wasn’t “trans enough” I’m in a grey area with Blair. I think she has some credible work especially her videos exposing predators so it’s a pity she uses that credibility to push her bigoted opinions And Dylan is a bit of caricature. I mean hiking in heels? Tampon reviews? C’mon girl don’t do that Edited November 27, 2022 by BTS
DonSiblon Posted November 27, 2022 Author Posted November 27, 2022 2 hours ago, BTS said: And Dylan is a bit of caricature. I mean hiking in heels? Tampon reviews? C’mon girl don’t do that You can see she's fixing up her image now that shits getting serious and she realizes she has the potential to become the next Michelle Obama.
shinyshimmery Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, rzal said: Dylan kinda agrees with you now so this whole convo is funny Dylan: "I am still learning. Please have mercy on me... I didn't know better. I'm a victim wah wah" Also Dylan: *makes a whole song about normalizing women having bulges* The GP: ... Girl byeeeee. She knows exactly what she's doing. Got her clout... and now all of a sudden she is the wannabe mother theresa of the trans community. I'm not trans... but I can imagine how invalidated this must make them feel. Edited November 27, 2022 by shinyshimmery
shinyshimmery Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 27, 2022 by shinyshimmery
Communion Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, shinyshimmery said: Dylan: "I am still learning. Please have mercy on me... I didn't know better. I'm a victim wah wah" Also Dylan: *makes a whole song about normalizing women having bulges* This is.... a weird way to describe the video where Dylan rejects Caitlyn Jenner's claim she was "talking about exposing [her] genitals" and reiterates all she was doing was talking about being trans and wearing a skirt. Maybe you are assuming she's apologizing for something - she doesn't apologize for anything in the video - because one user above falsely claimed such, but Dylan even reiterates in the video not having bottom surgery doesn't make anyone less than a woman (despite her wanting it personally) and someone as privileged as Caitlyn punching down on trans women, even if you ignore the kind of privilege Caitlyn has or the privilege Dylan herself is quick to claim she also has, is hypocritical given the kind of hatred Caitlyn got early-on in her transition.
shinyshimmery Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Communion said: This is.... a weird way to describe the video where Dylan rejects Caitlyn Jenner's claim she was "talking about exposing [her] genitals" and reiterates all she was doing was talking about being trans and wearing a skirt. Maybe you are assuming she's apologizing for something - she doesn't apologize for anything in the video - because one user above falsely claimed such, but Dylan even reiterates in the video not having bottom surgery doesn't make anyone less than a woman (despite her wanting it personally) and someone as privileged as Caitlyn punching down on trans women, even if you ignore the kind of privilege Caitlyn has or the privilege Dylan herself is quick to claim she also has, is hypocritical given the kind of hatred Caitlyn got early-on in her transition. You are forgetting the part where Dylan made a video saying "let's normalize women with bulges" and the videos of her going hiking in heels, with a photographer which are clearly meant to be posted on social media. This is a 25 year old adult btw.... not someone entering their early teenage years. I agree that someone who is transitioning shouldn't be ridiculed or criticized but in this particular case, this simply does not apply. Dylan has poised herself to be an influential figure in the trans community, and as such she should be a bit more responsible with the type of content she pushes. The video referenced above isn't exactly educating anyone, she (Dylan) is clearly upset at Caitlyn for calling her out. It's the classic manipulation strategy of "well I'm barely learning so it's okay for me to do these things" like, no sweetie, you are an adult... with a young (assumed) impressionable audience. Being manipulative doesn't make you right.
Communion Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, shinyshimmery said: You are forgetting the part where Dylan made a video saying "let's normalize women with bulges" ...no one forgot that part. That's literally what Dylan is addressing and defending - not apologizing for - in the linked tiktok. She's saying she has the right to reclaim parts of her body at times people make her feel bad about. Thus her having fun singing about that fact that some women do indeed have bulges. There is literally nothing irresponsible about a trans women deciding to do anything you're describing. 5 minutes ago, shinyshimmery said: she (Dylan) is clearly upset at Caitlyn for calling her out No, the video clearly is explicitly voicing that Dylan is upset with Caitlyn repeatedly misgendering her.
shinyshimmery Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Communion said: ...no one forgot that part. That's literally what Dylan is addressing and defending - not apologizing for - in the linked tiktok. She's saying she has the right to reclaim parts of her body at times people make her feel bad about. Thus her having fun singing about that fact that some women do indeed have bulges. There is literally nothing irresponsible about a trans women deciding to do anything you're describing. No, the video clearly is explicitly voicing that Dylan is upset with Caitlyn repeatedly misgendering her. It's manipulative, and apparently very effective for some. So she's perfectly fine having a bulge and normalizing it, then all of a sudden she's ashamed of it... which is it? This girl needs a PR team bc everyone is seeing thru her.
Elusive Chanteuse Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 12:39 AM, Cheers said: The Dylan girl creeps me out. Why does she act child like…? I don’t trust her as for Blaire, she does make some points sometimes lbr but yea she’s a transgender Republican like… LOL !!!!!!!
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