charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[PoisonedIvy]

29 minutes ago, Marvin said:

Sure, but she's only earning enough sales because of cheap tricks. If she would be blocking Drake because her song was genuinely the most popular song of the week, then sure she would've earned it. But she's only blocking him because she released 4 (5?) remixes in the last few days knowing that her fanbase would buy them. If the remixes were truly popular, they'd be doing something on streaming and they aren't. These are just the facts.

 

Going forward, there are two things I think Billboard should change.

Every (pop) era from Taylor has had random ass remixes. Rep had Seeb and Bloodpop remixing Delicate and Ready for It. Lover had YNTCD remixed by Clean Bandit. 

 

Midnights has these AH remixes. Besides Willow, this is the only other time these remixes have ever made a dent in Taylor’s chart performance. The rep and Lover ones did nothing, which is the norm for remixes.
 

With most other artists, remixes basically NEVER make a dent in their parent songs chart performance. Why would we need to adjust the rules for something that happens rather infrequently?
 

We can still count on one hand the songs that actually got significant boosts from remixes (Willow, TROLLZ, Butter, and now Anti-Hero) so it’s not really that big of a problem for Billboard, especially because these remixes just impact 1 week out of the 52 in a year. (Except for Butter, literal insanity because they kept releasing remixes every single week, which is the work around to your second idea for change by the way   at least Taylor keeps her surges capped to the one week.)

Edited November 11, 2022 by WeFoundTrouble

[The Music Industry]

2 hours ago, Cryptique said:

This is BTS level of inorganicness..

The fraudulence 

Truly the FEMALE BTS

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

It's not even comparable. The BTS fans were quite literally funnelling money from abroad and creating funds with thousands of dollars in a coordinated effort to get the song to #1. Meanwhile this is just fans individually deciding to buy the remixes like

[Young In Love]

can't even be mad when she's blocking Drake 

[Lille]

The OTH tears runneth over.

[Aaron]

honestly, good  i’ll probably go my entire life never hearing rich flex or any of his other #1s since 2019 that have left the public consciousness within a week

[45seconds]

It’s blocking Drake so release as much remixes as you want Queen 

[JoeAg]

hell yeah! and then a fourth, and then a fifth, and then a sixth, and then that'll be an excellent run ? a few weeks off the #1 spot, then Lavender Haze swoops in as a 3 or 4 consecutive week #1 and that's another excellent run

[Orsay]

A shameless chart manipulator! 

[Headlock]

3 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

Taylor was the only one in this chart "feud" that actually cared that much about getting #1 and you think Drake is fuming about this 

 

i'm kinda glad that he was blocked but all this shows is once the chart obsession Ms. Swift has 

Mhm, that’s why Rich Flex was also discounted to $0.69 

[brenda-walsh]

10 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Mhm, that’s why Rich Flex was also discounted to $0.69 

discounted single for a couple days vs. 5,6,7? remixes in a couple of days 

[BnPac]

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

its their job.

 

do you not pay attention to your performance at your job?

!!!! 

It's such a weird mentality that people here have. I've never understood it. If it's weird that people that are directly concerned follow their performance and do everything to win, then how weird is it for people on random forums?

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Anyway as I said "cool" either way. I wish she hadn't done it because the song had a flawless run, it is strong on every metric and was pretty much undraggable. I also can't agree with this tactic since I wasn't completely on board with what happened last week. It would just make me a huge hypocrite. 

 

However the fact that Drake is being blocked from the top spot after insulting Megan for no reason at all does not give me displeasure. I was really disappointed in that. 

[Headlock]

1 hour ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Every (pop) era from Taylor has had random ass remixes. Rep had Seeb and Bloodpop remixing Delicate and Ready for It. Lover had YNTCD remixed by Clean Bandit. 

 

Midnights has these AH remixes. Besides Willow, this is the only other time these remixes have ever made a dent in Taylor’s chart performance. The rep and Lover ones did nothing, which is the norm for remixes.
 

With most other artists, remixes basically NEVER make a dent in their parent songs chart performance. Why would we need to adjust the rules for something that happens rather infrequently?
 

We can still count on one hand the songs that actually got significant boosts from remixes (Willow, TROLLZ, Butter, and now Anti-Hero) so it’s not really that big of a problem for Billboard, especially because these remixes just impact 1 week out of the 52 in a year. (Except for Butter, literal insanity because they kept releasing remixes every single week, which is the work around to your second idea for change by the way   at least Taylor keeps her surges capped to the one week.)

Exactly this, remixes are incredibly standard for pop artists, the only difference is normally they’re mostly for DJ use in clubs, where as for Taylor they actually make a dent on her chart runs 

[Headlock]

1 minute ago, brenda-walsh said:

discounted single for a couple days vs. 5,6,7? remixes in a couple of days 

So you agree he cared then 

[brenda-walsh]

2 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

And she got it, so why are YOU so upset about it? It should be us Swifties being mad at Taylor for making us waste our hard-earned money on her. If your fave is as organic and clueless about chart success then you shouldn't be throwing a tantrum here  yet here you are 

yup i will continue to post in taylor swift threads on atrl and throw tantrums. happy?

 

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

So you agree he cared then 

in relation to taylor's antics? no. discounting the lead single first week has become the norm for major artists. your fave did start the trend after all

[Not Like The Movies]

3 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

Taylor was the only one in this chart "feud" that actually cared that much about getting #1 and you think Drake is fuming about this 

 

i'm kinda glad that he was blocked but all this shows is once the chart obsession Ms. Swift has 

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[SleepingTigers]

Hopefully stays number 1 till Mariah comes then Lavender Haze takes over for a few weeks. 

[Forevermore.]

I have to admit I have some mixed feelings about this but I wheezed when I opened Twitter and saw AH being 50 points ahead   It's Drake she's blocking too, so honestly? Good. Drake has been giving me so much ick this era, especially after what he said about Megan. 

[Polgg48]

just what i thought, drake album is still too weak for any potential real hit singles and only bandage his rap audience with safest lane ever.

 

good for taylor

[Hot Volcano]

3 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

The fraudulence of it all 

 

the ignorance of it all

 

It was Adele's 10th week at #1, of course her streaming figuers won't be as big as in previous weeks and her radio numbers would be bigger. Common sense

 

Easy On Me is projected to be the #10th most streamed song of 2022 in the US, she is the only female in the top 10

[WildHeart]

13 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

the ignorance of it all

 

It was Adele's 10th week at #1, of course her streaming figuers won't be as big as in previous weeks and her radio numbers would be bigger. Common sense

Week 3 

 

Anti Hero - 29.9M

Easy On Me - 25.8M

[Hot Volcano]

6 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Week 3 

 

Anti Hero - 29.9M

Easy On Me - 25.8M

missing the point.....yet again

 

The topic is Taylor's chart manipulation and how she is gonna stay #1 even tho Drake has twice as much streams. Why does it matter than it's outstreaming Easy On Me on it's third week (a year later, and streaming is growing every year so they are basically even but again, irrelevant )? 

 

Like....... she's obviously slaying, but that doesn't mean these tactics ain't EMBARRASSING. Especially since Drake's song exploded and everyone is using the 21 can you do something for me line, clearly the most popular song of the week. Your fave couldn't handle losing the #1 so she pulled all the stops = embarrassing, pathetic and will always be remembered

 

 

 

 

[Trainwreck]

25 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

the ignorance of it all

 

It was Adele's 10th week at #1, of course her streaming figuers won't be as big as in previous weeks and her radio numbers would be bigger. Common sense

 

Easy On Me is projected to be the #10th most streamed song of 2022 in the US, she is the only female in the top 10

EWWWWW! don't quote me weirdo, you give off creep vibes 

[Hot Volcano]

1 minute ago, Trainwreck said:

EWWWWW! don't quote me weirdo, you give off creep vibes 

says a gay with a profile pic of Jesus kissing Taylor Swift's shaved head

[CrimsonX]

 Not Taylor blocking Drake & Rihanna.

[Cloröx]

We need Anti-Flop to block Born Again....!!!!!