charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[Cryptique]

This is BTS level of inorganicness..

The fraudulence 

Truly the FEMALE BTS

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

[byzantium]

I can’t at the OTHs fuming people because people are enjoying and listening to Taylor.  
 

Their anger consumes them so much. 

[georgechxng]

8 minutes ago, InventedGays said:

The way you throw in these completely nonsensical comparisons lol yes the song continuing to set records and smash across the globe "just isn't it"  these remixes were clearly made ahead of time. There also are literally rules in place preventing it from being a Butter situation, and there are no hoards of swifties gather funds internationally to mass buy singles. Stripping context away from your statements doesn't make them true. God forbid an artist is making the chart competitive. When Midnights launched all yall complained about the way charts are set up allow for the entire top 10 to be taken over but when she prevents that from happening for Drake suddenly it's the opposite problem for yall lol

I'll never get over how insane it is for yall to act like someone caring about their literal job is a bad thing

No one is complaining about her keeping Drake from occupying the entire top 10… even without the remixes, Anti-Hero would probably end up the week at #3. People are complaining about her pulling desperate antics and rigging the charts by having the same 20/30k people buying 5 different versions of the same song to take away the top spot from the most consumed song of the week…. which is fair. C’mon now, Rich Flex did 2x the streams of Anti-Hero, there’s 30M streams separating the two songs. Any other artist would (and should) also get dragged to shreds for this

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by georgechxng

[Kool_Aid_King]

1 minute ago, InventedGays said:

The way you throw in these completely nonsensical comparisons lol yes the song continuing to set records and smash across the globe "just isn't it"  these remixes were clearly made ahead of time. There also are literally rules in place preventing it from being a Butter situation, and there are no hoards of swifties gather funds internationally to mass buy singles. Stripping context away from your statements doesn't make them true. God forbid an artist is making the chart competitive. When Midnights launched all yall complained about the way charts are set up allow for the entire top 10 to be taken over but when she prevents that from happening for Drake suddenly it's the opposite problem for yall lol

I'll never get over how insane it is for yall to act like someone caring about their literal job is a bad thing

Please remove me from the narrative cause I only noticed she tactfully released single versions of the songs that were gonna be 11 and 12, which is fine. Get your record.

 

Her JOB is not being #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and dropped remix after remix after remix... discount after discount to go #1. Her job is to record music and release it. 

 

And yes, the Butter situation was a bit different but we all collectively dragged BTS for dropping all those remixes and versions to allow their fans to mass buy. This is no different in the fact that there's a million random remixes being thrown out there. 

[Trainwreck]

15 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

This isn't about Drake at all. 

Yes it is girl lmao,  you're fuming just cause he's probably not going #1, I bet this energy wasn't here before 

 

Anyways, she has every right to release as many versions as she wants and we decide whether to purchase it OR NOT, stop being bitter about it just because it works for her and doesn't for the majority of other artists

Edited November 11, 2022 by Trainwreck

[pride4jc1222]

2 minutes ago, Cryptique said:

This is BTS level of inorganicness..

The fraudulence 

Truly the FEMALE BTS

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

It’s pretty simple. All Billboard has to do is remove sales from the Hot 100 formula, and the problem is solved.

 

As long as sales count towards the Hot 100, stuff like this will continue to happen.

[Cryptique]

16 minutes ago, georgechxng said:

Rich Flex is still smashing hard at Spotify US and Apple Music so she might have to release more remixes to lock her 4th week at #1  she’s really gonna serve a fraudulent chart run. It’s gonna be fun to watch. 

Everything about her since 2017 is inorganic.. she just has that big of a cult fan base that will buy everything and will leave their 10+ devices on-loop streaming Taylor 

 

The FEMALE BTS

[WildHeart]

Just now, Cryptique said:

This is BTS level of inorganicness..

The fraudulence 

Truly the FEMALE BTS

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

Third week streams 

 

Anti Hero - 30M

Butter - 14.4M 

 

Yeah, no 

 

[Moonlight Nation]

1 hour ago, Scott Borchetta said:

Drake finally getting blocked

Excluding the times he blocked himself ("Nonstop" in 2018 + "Wants And Needs" and "Girls Want Girls" in 2021), he's actually been blocked four times before. 

1. His breakthrough single "Best I Ever Had" was blocked by "I Gotta Feeling". Ironically, so was Taylor's "You Belong With Me".
2. "Hotline Bling" was blocked by both "The Hills" and "Hello". Many speculate he could have reached the top spot had the music video not been an Apple Music exclusive.
3. "Life Is Good" with Future was blocked for 8 weeks by Roddy Ricch's "The Box".
4. Finally, saving the best for last, "Laugh Now Cry Later" was blocked by "WAP" 

 

54 minutes ago, Michael196 said:

where was he when that tragedy stayed at #1 for 15 weeks because of radio payola and no competition?

Someone's asking the real questions here... 

 

That piece of corporate mediocrity only stuck around for 15 weeks because radio wasn't willing to give "Running Up That Hill", "Me Porto Bonito"/"Tití Me Preguntó", and "Bad Habit" the radio force to match with their stronger streaming presence... probably because they weren't the types of songs the industry likes to promote. 

 

Thank goodness they eventually got their act together and helped "Bad Habit" to get its much deserved weeks at #1, but indeed, Drake releasing this project earlier could have prevented that song from beating "We Belong Together, "Uptown Funk!", "I Will Always Love You", and "I Gotta Feeling" for most weeks spent on top. ?

[Konril]

**** the Patriarchy! 

[PoisonedIvy]

13 minutes ago, Cryptique said:

This is BTS level of inorganicness..

The fraudulence 

Truly the FEMALE BTS

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

Please, Butter wishes it was as high in streams and radio as Anti-Hero is. 
 

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Third week streams 

 

Anti Hero - 30M

Butter - 14.4M 

 

Yeah, no 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by WeFoundTrouble

[Trainwreck]

10 minutes ago, Cryptique said:

This

 

Billboard really has to do something with these remixes

Write them a letter asking them to change their rules if you're so concerned about it. Just so you know that any change in their recent formula will imminently affect each and every artist out there 

[brenda-walsh]

Taylor was the only one in this chart "feud" that actually cared that much about getting #1 and you think Drake is fuming about this 

 

i'm kinda glad that he was blocked but all this shows is once the chart obsession Ms. Swift has 

[MexicanLiLMonster]

 

Hopefully its her longest number 1 since Blank Space.

[MexicanLiLMonster]

 

Hopefully its her longest number 1 since Blank Space.

[PoisonedIvy]

People asking to remove SALES. The original metric of the Hot 100 that was (and still is) consumer driven.  

 

People used to buy physical singles. People used to buy digital singles from iTunes. Now people buy singles from artist’s websites. You can be mad at one person purchasing a song four times but that doesn’t change the fact that a sale is a sale. 

Would you remove box office gross from people who see a movie three or four times in theaters? No? They’re paying good money for those tickets, so that money contributes to the gross. The music industry is a business. Money is to be made. It is what it is.

[TrieLz]

Hopefully Taylor get her first double digit #1 with Anti-Hero 

[Skyfish]

Taylor sucks all the joy out of music. Clearly the only purpose of her music is to upstage everyone.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Skyfish

[Green]

1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said:

Actually that’s probably false if AH got sales as high as various chart watchers have predicted - the remixes are indeed consumed copies sold!

 

If that's the case the Butter was the most consumed song during all those weeks that it blocked good 4 u, Stay and Industry Baby 

[Trainwreck]

2 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

and you think Drake is fuming about this 

Drake isn't fuming but sure his fans are, just take a look at the first page, they're the ones who started crying about remixes and discounts. Don't blame it on Taylor/Swifties 

[Mark Rih]

She saw Anti Hero being an organic hit and thought "Nope! Imma add an asterisk to that one too"

[WildHeart]

15 minutes ago, georgechxng said:

C’mon now, Rich Flex did 2x the streams of Anti-Hero, there’s 30M streams separating the two songs. Any other artist would (and should) also get dragged to shreds for this

 

 

#1 Easy On Me - 14.3M streams 

#2 We Don't Talk About Bruno - 32.4M 

 

Not something new i am afraid

[WEEKND]

I like rich flex this kinda sucks 

 

I am dying at “Donald Trump of Pop” y’all too funny ?

[littlebodybigheart]

while i agree that the song that deserved #1 was robbed, this is completely within the rules and other people have benefitted from it in the past (like old town road having thousands of remixes) so i don’t see why she can’t exploit the system too.

[Cruel Summer]

1 minute ago, Green said:

 

If that's the case the Butter was the most consumed song during all those weeks that it blocked good 4 u, Stay and Industry Baby 

Yes, correct, it was. But do we really need to get into a discussion about how globally-sourced crowdfunding accounts reimbursing fans for buying as many copies as possible under the old rules is different from American consumers using their own money to buy individual copies of products they want?