charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[aesthetic bih]

AH is a legit hit so dederved . Drake gonna debut high then fall off the next few weeks so ..

[Trainwreck]

42 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Greedy af for no reason.. releasing 6 $0.59 US exclusive sales only remixes  Desperation.

Drake also discounted Rich Flex to 0.69 cents 

 

OT: It's what she deserves, only THEE MUSIC INDUSTRY 

[State of Grace.]

Blocking Rih and Drake back to back    

[BnPac]

7 minutes ago, Starchild said:

The way this energy only comes out when it's just an artist you guys dislike 

That's not true. 

For all AIW's chart run for example, that member made a post about how the song was not as consumed as previous big chart toppers and how it staying at #1 although it was neither #1 on streams nor sales was flawed. 

[Starchild]

1 minute ago, Trainwreck said:

Drake also discounted Rich Flex to 0.69 cents 

 

OT: It's what she deserves, only THEE MUSIC INDUSTRY 

The way nobody is going to acknowledge this 

[Taylena]

1 minute ago, BnPac said:

AH was not the most consumed song last week. 

If we can agree that Lift Me Up's moves were desperate and AH the rightful chart-topper that week because it was most consumed surely we need to stay consistent. 

Rich Flex had approximately the double of streams. 

Sales are consumption. No one is being forced to buy the remixes unlike Lift Me Up being forced on people through radio. 

[Cruel Summer]

3 minutes ago, BnPac said:

AH was not the most consumed song last week. 

If we can agree that Lift Me Up's moves were desperate and AH the rightful chart-topper that week because it was most consumed surely we need to stay consistent. 

Rich Flex had approximately the double of streams. 

Actually that’s probably false if AH got sales as high as various chart watchers have predicted - the remixes are indeed consumed copies sold!

[305]

Th absolute POWER that she has

[Trainwreck]

42 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Claiming what's hers? Her song was #1 for 2 weeks already and she's not entitled to stay number one. the world does not revolve around this white women and other people are allowed to do as they please. You think because she's releasing, no one should release anything for the next 4 weeks or something???

The world doesn't revolve around Drake either lmao, just because he released something doesn't mean that it HAS to go #1 

[PoisonedIvy]

6 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

Drake also discounted Rich Flex to 0.69 cents 

Wellp

 

She can’t help it that people want to buy her music.   At this point you all sound like broken records when you can’t accept that. 

[OrgVisual]

Drake losing a #1 despite having 30M more streams  

 

[Trainwreck]

4 minutes ago, Starchild said:

The way nobody is going to acknowledge this 

Of course they won't, they only care about discounts and remixes when it comes to dragging pop girls that they dislike  but yeah, RICH FLEX HAS BEEN SELLING FOR 0.69 CENTS since Thursday night 

[BnPac]

2 minutes ago, Taylena said:

Sales are consumption. No one is being forced to buy the remixes unlike Lift Me Up being forced on people through radio. 

 

2 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Actually that’s probably false if AH got sales as high as various chart watchers have predicted - the remixes are indeed consumed copies sold!

Where did I say sales were not consumption. It's consumption, I completely agree. 

 

But if threads can be made for various Lift Me Up's versions, if one can laugh at Wakanda's version, at different digital copies appearing on the website (I saw all those threads) then one surely has to consider Taylor releasing last minute remixes, discounts to secure the #1 position after holding it for 2 consecutive weeks, the same way? 

And to the person Mentioning radio, Lift Me Up had a radio deal, so did Anti-hero, so I don't get the point. Was Anti-hero also forced on people through radio? 

 

 

[Trainwreck]

5 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Wellp

 

She can’t help it that people want to buy her music.   At this point you all sound like broken records when you can’t accept that. 

At least Taylor's been selling the official single at full price all week, only the remixes are discounted 

[Life Savers]

See when you actually sell your remixes 

[georgechxng]

Rich Flex is still smashing hard at Spotify US and Apple Music so she might have to release more remixes to lock her 4th week at #1  she’s really gonna serve a fraudulent chart run. It’s gonna be fun to watch. 

[Cruel Summer]

1 minute ago, BnPac said:

 

Where did I say sales were not consumption. It's consumption, I completely agree. 

 

But if threads can be made for various Lift Me Up's versions, if one can laugh at Wakanda's version, at different digital copies appearing on the website (I saw all those threads) then one surely has to consider Taylor releasing last minute remixes, discounts to secure the #1 position after holding it for 2 consecutive weeks, the same way? 

And to the person Mentioning radio, Lift Me Up had a radio deal, so did Anti-hero, so I don't get the point. Was Anti-hero also forced on people through radio? 

 

 

You said this:

 

14 minutes ago, BnPac said:

AH was not the most consumed song last week. 

There is a very real chance that your statement was factually incorrect depending on the final numbers, and that’s all I mentioned. I don’t have any interest in shifting the goalposts.

[BnPac]

8 minutes ago, Starchild said:

The way nobody is going to acknowledge this 

What there should be acknowledged? That Drake is doing what every big artists, including Taylor, does? 

It's his first week, most big artists try to secure a #1 first week. Him discounting his song makes sense just how I routed for Willow's discounts. It makes sense. 

Taylor could have kept this for next week. An artist on her label released this week and had the #1 song on lock but she is purposely hindering/impeding that by releasing remixes and last-minute discounts when she could have just waited to push this hard next week to regain the throne. 

[Starchild]

4 minutes ago, BnPac said:

 

Where did I say sales were not consumption. It's consumption, I completely agree. 

 

But if threads can be made for various Lift Me Up's versions, if one can laugh at Wakanda's version, at different digital copies appearing on the website (I saw all those threads) then one surely has to consider Taylor releasing last minute remixes, discounts to secure the #1 position after holding it for 2 consecutive weeks, the same way? 

And to the person Mentioning radio, Lift Me Up had a radio deal, so did Anti-hero, so I don't get the point. Was Anti-hero also forced on people through radio? 

 

 

There's been like 4 threads with 10+ pages calling her desperate, pathetic, chart obsessed etc. How much more do y'all want her to get dragged 

[Kool_Aid_King]

37 minutes ago, InventedGays said:

Bitter af for no reason.. coming to defend Drake of all people just so you can talk **** about a woman 

This isn't about Drake at all. It's the fact that an artist can shamelessly release remix after remix after remix after remix and make them online sales only US only exclusives and discount them too.. Chile it's ridiculous just for an extra week  

 

Truly the Donald Trump of Pop with this America First mentality  

 

13 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

Drake also discounted Rich Flex to 0.69 cents 

 

OT: It's what she deserves, only THEE MUSIC INDUSTRY 

Drake discounted it for Thursday after Taylor was so desperately doing these paywall ass single remixes. 

 

TBH I have no dog in this race, but I'm gonna call a spade a spade. I streamed Anti Hero a few times this week because Drake and 21 are wrong for badmouthing my girl Thee Stallion, but if you have to pull out all these tactics to secure another week... maybe your song just isn't it?

 

We were all collectively skulldragging the BTS Butter situation just for your girl do the same, but this is worst cause it seems out of anger. 

[BnPac]

4 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I don’t have any interest in shifting the goalposts.

I didn't move any goalposts, I was responding to two posts at the same time. I thought that was clear.

 

Anyway cool. 

[Walk_Away21]

A reverse ME! and YNTCD

[Cruel Summer]

Just now, BnPac said:

I didn't move any goalposts, I was responding to two posts at the same time. I thought that was clear.

 

Anyway cool. 

Glad we agree that the premise of your entire original comment is wrong, then!

[BnPac]

3 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Glad we agree that the premise of your entire original comment is wrong, then!

No, we don't. 

[Brando]

4 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

We were all collectively skulldragging the BTS Butter situation just for your girl do the same, but this is worst cause it seems out of anger. 

Butter wouldn't have touched top 10 if it wasn't for mass buying, yet it was #1 for 10 weeks. It was a straight up chart fraud with people from abroad organising donations for the US fans to mass buy all the alternative cover versions. Kinda different story. Remixes are the "promo" of current day and age it seems. 

 

What Taylor is doing is not exactly "organic", but she's allowed to put up a fight for her success. Charts are after all a form of competition for the artists. Always have been. And the labels were always behind all sorts of dirty tricks to get their artists ahead