charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[PurrKaty]

2 hours ago, Brando said:

AH sold ~300k this week. There's nothing Drake could have done to stop it

So you do doubt Drakes power then? Interesting

[Nick_317]

8 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We love a non-frontloaded organic #1 smash hitThe GP just cannot get enough of the AH remixes

[AnonnonA]

723 points 

Edited November 13, 2022 by AnonnonA

[Shendelzare]

Just now, AnonnonA said:

753 points 

insane numberrrssss 

[littlebodybigheart]

i mean, drake clearly doesn’t care about the #1  he’s been chillin all week even after all the remixes. taylor was competing by herself pretty much.

 

congrats to her holding down the #1

[simmnfierzig]

Drake only would have needed 90 - 100 million streams to compete. 

[By the Water]

3 minutes ago, AnonnonA said:

723 points 

The most consumed song at #1 

[Literature]

12 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said:

In my opinion, the credibility of the Hot 100 is at stake. If Rich Flex isn’t #1 on the 11/19 chart, the Hot 100 is no longer a reputable chart. As I said earlier in the thread, the charts are broken if a song with less than 15M streams stays at #1 for weeks on end, while another song with 60M streams get blocked from #1 in the same quarter.

 

Let’s hope Billboard does the right thing and filter out some of those Anti-Hero sales, like they did with Lift Me Up the previous week.

That doesn't mean the charts are broken, it means there's more competition. 

 

And no matter how much you think the remix tactic is inorganic there's at least 90k worth of organic sales out of those 300k, and that's all that was needed to stay at #1

[Katy V.!]

Honestly I hope she milks both the era and the tour  

 

I had no idea ATRL would have a collective meltdown over Pop Taylor

[wehavetostan]

where are y'all getting 300k from omg

[Literature]

3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

  this has to be a ******* joke by now, guys please tell me you are not being serious with these posts. Are you REALLY bringing up the early 2010s when LITERALLY every popstar out there was having 400k+ weeks and comparing that period to 2022 in order to justify your fave being beyond pathetic with so many remixes that she DISCOUNTED aswell in order to stay #1?    

 

The way you guys are gloating about these tricks she's doing and preaching about it being so impressive   I-

 

 

300,000 sales in a week isn't impressive? Keep dreaming and realize you are the problem. Absolutely no way that a song with 723 points does not deserve to be #1 over a song with 450. 

[taylorrrr]

The fan of Million (performance and discounts) to get that #4 having a meltdown. 

[PoisonedIvy]

3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

  this has to be a ******* joke by now, guys please tell me you are not being serious with these posts. Are you REALLY bringing up the early 2010s when LITERALLY every popstar out there was having 400k+ weeks and comparing that period to 2022 in order to justify your fave being beyond pathetic with so many remixes that she DISCOUNTED aswell in order to stay #1?    

 

The way you guys are gloating about these tricks she's doing and preaching about it being so impressive   I-

 

 

If you lack comprehension skills just say that.

 

i didn’t bring up the 2010s because they’re relevant to today — I brought them up to establish a pattern. Taylor isn’t just randomly selling all these singles out of thin air now, I’m pointing out that she has an established fanbase that she has continued to nurture and she is reaping the rewards of that.

 

She’s the only artist who has maintained if not GROWN her popularity from the start of the 2010s to the start of the 2020s. No other pop star is SELLING albums, SELLING songs, DEMOLISHING streams, and GROSSING so high — ALL IN ONE.

 

There’s artists that excel at streams and tours but not sales, there’s artists that excel at sales and tours but not streams, but Taylor is one of a kind. She’s the whole package. And on a cumulative chart like the Hot 100, being well rounded is your best friend.
 

You can seethe and fume and deflect all you like but that’s the point I’m making and anyone with half a brain would understand. 

 

BTW — there is NOTHING pathetic about selling 300,000 singles in 2022 baby. Nothing at all. In fact that’s impressive as hell, and it should embarrass the rest of her peers that they can’t keep a strong enough bond with their fanbase that they would support their musical ventures for a decades long career. 

[PoisonedIvy]

20 minutes ago, AnonnonA said:

723 points 

  I’d be mad if I hated her too  

[Shendelzare]

8 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

If you lack comprehension skills just say that.

 

i didn’t bring up the 2010s because they’re relevant to today — I brought them up to establish a pattern. Taylor isn’t just randomly selling all these singles out of thin air now, I’m pointing out that she has an established fanbase that she has continued to nurture and she is reaping the rewards of that.

 

She’s the only artist who has maintained if not GROWN her popularity from the start of the 2010s to the start of the 2020s. No other pop star is SELLING albums, SELLING songs, DEMOLISHING streams, and GROSSING so high — ALL IN ONE.

 

There’s artists that excel at streams and tours but not sales, there’s artists that excel at sales and tours but not streams, but Taylor is one of a kind. She’s the whole package. And on a cumulative chart like the Hot 100, being well rounded is your best friend.
 

You can seethe and fume and deflect all you like but that’s the point I’m making and anyone with half a brain would understand. 

 

BTW — there is NOTHING pathetic about selling 300,000 singles in 2022 baby. Nothing at all. In fact that’s impressive as hell, and it should embarrass the rest of her peers that they can’t keep a strong enough bond with their fanbase that they would support their musical ventures for a decades long career. 

why do you waste your time with that racist-siding person?

[VioletsandRoses]

25 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Drake only would have needed 90 - 100 million streams to compete. 

What’s most streamed songs for a week in US? 

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, Shendelzare said:

why do you waste your time with that racist-siding person?

It’s more so for anyone else who reads to not think I seceded because “I lost” the argument, or that they were right about the bs they were spewing.
 

I need people who are capable of rationality to hear the sane argument instead of just the delusion in an echo chamber, and to hear actual valid rebuttals. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by WeFoundTrouble

[simmnfierzig]

22 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

What’s most streamed songs for a week in US? 

Back when Youtube was way bigger. Not possible anymore to reach those numbers. 

Plus the biggest songs on AM and Spotify are also down with streams getting more and more split between stuff.

 

143 million from Old Town Road is the record.

93 million from WAP is the biggest of the decade. With unsually high Youtube numbers for the time and it's been down another level from there since

 

76 million for Drivers License the biggest last year.

Drake this week or Anti-Hero's first week (59.7M) is the biggest this year.

Edited November 13, 2022 by simmnfierzig

[Literature]

20 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Back when Youtube was way bigger. Not possible anymore to reach those numbers. 

Plus the biggest songs on AM and Spotify are also down with streams getting more and more split between stuff.

 

143 million from Old Town Road is the record.

93 million from WAP is the biggest of the decade. With unsually high Youtube numbers for the time and it's been down another level from there since

 

76 million for Drivers License the biggest last year.

Drake this week or Anti-Hero's first week (59.7M) is the biggest this year.

Correct me if im wrong, but tiktok also counted towards streaming numbers before 2020, right?

[Protocol]

52 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Back when Youtube was way bigger. Not possible anymore to reach those numbers. 

Plus the biggest songs on AM and Spotify are also down with streams getting more and more split between stuff.

 

143 million from Old Town Road is the record.

93 million from WAP is the biggest of the decade. With unsually high Youtube numbers for the time and it's been down another level from there since

 

76 million for Drivers License the biggest last year.

Drake this week or Anti-Hero's first week (59.7M) is the biggest this year.

COVID killed the monoculture. 2019 was its last dying gasp.

[TrieLz]

8 hours ago, Brando said:

So she sold more than any BTS song during any of their funneled funds weeks?

She can just keep doing this for any of the future Midnights singles

 

Dynamite also has 300k pure sales,

265k from digital sales, 35k from physical sales. Both sales count for Hot 100 points.

[Hot Volcano]

10 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

If you lack comprehension skills just say that.

 

i didn’t bring up the 2010s because they’re relevant to today — I brought them up to establish a pattern. Taylor isn’t just randomly selling all these singles out of thin air now, I’m pointing out that she has an established fanbase that she has continued to nurture and she is reaping the rewards of that.

 

She’s the only artist who has maintained if not GROWN her popularity from the start of the 2010s to the start of the 2020s. No other pop star is SELLING albums, SELLING songs, DEMOLISHING streams, and GROSSING so high — ALL IN ONE.

 

There’s artists that excel at streams and tours but not sales, there’s artists that excel at sales and tours but not streams, but Taylor is one of a kind. She’s the whole package. And on a cumulative chart like the Hot 100, being well rounded is your best friend.
 

You can seethe and fume and deflect all you like but that’s the point I’m making and anyone with half a brain would understand. 

 

BTW — there is NOTHING pathetic about selling 300,000 singles in 2022 baby. Nothing at all. In fact that’s impressive as hell, and it should embarrass the rest of her peers that they can’t keep a strong enough bond with their fanbase that they would support their musical ventures for a decades long career. 

Then why didnt Anti-Hero debut with 600k pure sales like WANEGBT or 500k like Shake It Off? You are so FULL of **** and you know it

 

These are BTS tactics she is using, exploiting her huge fanbase does not mean you currently have the biggest song in the country, it means you were DESPERATE to stay #1  so you encouraged your stans to buy discounted remixes for a limited time

Edited November 13, 2022 by Hot Volcano

[simmnfierzig]

3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

Then why didnt Anti-Hero debut with 600k pure sales like WANEGBT or 500k like Shake It Off? You are so FULL of **** and you know it

 

These are BTS tactics she is using, exploiting her huge fanbase does not mean you currently have the biggest song in the country, it means you were DESPERATE to stay #1  so you encouraged your stans to buy discounted remixes for a limited time

Because it was released with the album and people bought the album...

 

It wouldnt have done 500k but certainly a lot more if released before the album

[Hot Volcano]

29 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Because it was released with the album and people bought the album...

 

It wouldnt have done 500k but certainly a lot more if released before the album

So the GP was like

 

"Oh Taylor released a new album? Lets buy the album now and lets focus on the lead single in......week 3!"

 

Makes total sense

 

[simmnfierzig]

2 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

So the GP was like

 

"Oh Taylor released a new album? Lets buy the album now and lets focus on the lead single in......week 3!"

 

Makes total sense

 

What are you talking about 

 

She released remixes this week. That arent on the album and are very different