charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, Jude said:

I guess that's what they more care about, the $$$$$. 

I don’t think labels hold end of the year Christmas parties or anything but if they did I just know Taylor and Drake would have so many executives patting them on the back and congratulating them for lining their pockets. Even though they also have The Weeknd, Ariana, Nicki, Post Malone, lots of other heavy hitters  

[bad guy]

37 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

It reached #1 two weeks ago, you are 2 weeks late 

Thank you remixes, discounts, spamming every Spotify user with a popup to stream Midnights, etc.

 

36 minutes ago, Archetype said:

Anything to hold off trash from going #1, she's doing the world a favor this week 

#ThankYouTaylor

The world is choosing Drake and his viral, smash hit banger Rich Flex. The bulk buying BTSwifties are the only ones choosing Taylor.

 

[WildHeart]

2 minutes ago, bad guy said:

The world is choosing Drake and his viral, smash hit banger Rich Flex.

The world in the question :

 

[Headlock]

3 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

yup i will continue to post in taylor swift threads on atrl and throw tantrums. happy?

 

in relation to taylor's antics? no. discounting the lead single first week has become the norm for major artists. your fave did start the trend after all

So Drake is following the norm and wanting to debut high, again meaning he cares. Thanks for confirming…again 

[MusicLoverDude]

28 minutes ago, Jude said:

I liked both songs so I don't care which one is topping the H100 next week. This should be a lesson for Drake, though. Unless he genuinely does not care about the charts, he should work harder the next time he drops an album especially when releasing close to Taylor Swift's release time. 

 

The fact that Republic allowed them to have a chart battle is beyond me, though. 

 

History is essentially repeating itself though. Hotline Bling was blocked by Adele because he didn't release an official video

[Literature]

For lift me up swifties were retaliating after the navy spent years dragging taylor for willow. Every artist wants #1 and every artist has the right to fight for #1.

 

For dynamite and butter, their fans were funding the sales for the song from overseas and strategizing how many copies of each version each fan should buy  

Now that bulk sales of 2 or more are filtered out in the new rules as of january they will never see the top again. Taylor is still pulling 290k sales even with the new rules and no such organization, even filtering out the multiple remixes she "only" needed 90,000 sales to go #1.

 

Is anti-hero the most consumed song of the week? Yes

Is it the most popular? Depends on how you look at it....there is a solid case to be made about streaming being more important than sales, even if the latter is organic. However, I'm pissed at her 300k week being blocked on the BB200, so....he can suck it 

[Starchild]

1 hour ago, Jennifer said:

Lol. I think it bothers Taylor that she’ll never have the appeal of Drake. His reach is miles above hers (and everyone else). Effortless slaughtering year after year. 

Y'all say such dumb ****

[UNNAMI]

7 hours ago, georgechxng said:

Releasing 5 remixes in 72 hours to make up for 100 points of difference between songs is not NORMAL  Rihanna got dragged to shreds last week for trying to do the same and Taylor is getting her lashings this week. And Anti-Hero is showing good stability across the board tho so she didn’t need this. She could probably return to #1 organically in 2 weeks or so or have a cute run inside the top 3 for weeks without having to go willow-mode. 

it;s not normal but it is impressive. Imagine putting 5 remixes and actually SELLING them. It is desperate but she is actually doing something with her music and her wants or in it. can you imagine someone like ava max, bebe rexha or charli xcx putting 5 remixes and selling them? I can't.

 

I prefer Taylor's tactics (whom are in Billboard terms and rules so she is just playing the game) rather than my faves lazy queens like Adele and Beyonce who put music and did absolutely nothing to promote them besides lead singles. The waste of potential hits like Oh My God, I Drink Wine, Love Is A Game, Cuff It, Summer Reneissance or Pure/Honey is hurting my brain.

[Mr. Loco]

56 minutes ago, UNNAMI said:

it;s not normal but it is impressive. Imagine putting 5 remixes and actually SELLING them. It is desperate but she is actually doing something with her music and her wants or in it. can you imagine someone like ava max, bebe rexha or charli xcx putting 5 remixes and selling them? I can't.

 

I prefer Taylor's tactics (whom are in Billboard terms and rules so she is just playing the game) rather than my faves lazy queens like Adele and Beyonce who put music and did absolutely nothing to promote them besides lead singles. The waste of potential hits like Oh My God, I Drink Wine, Love Is A Game, Cuff It, Summer Reneissance or Pure/Honey is hurting my brain.

I miss when eras had 4 or 5 singles... Now we get a couple and tons of remixes and lone singles

[Jude]

2 hours ago, MusicLoverDude said:

History is essentially repeating itself though. Hotline Bling was blocked by Adele because he didn't release an official video

So I guess he just doesn't care about these #1s. Good for him.

[brenda-walsh]

2 hours ago, Headlock said:

So Drake is following the norm and wanting to debut high, again meaning he cares. Thanks for confirming…again 

he just released his album. Taylor is the one that got so threatened that her #1 spot would be taken that she had to release all of these remixes. So no, he did not care about the feud nor start it. Ms. Swift is the one who pulled all the strings for these shenanigans 

[Nick_317]

An organic monster smash hit

[Taylucifer]

she’s still number 1

 

y’all can stay mad in here

[byzantium]

8 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

he just released his album. Taylor is the one that got so threatened that her #1 spot would be taken that she had to release all of these remixes. So no, he did not care about the feud nor start it. Ms. Swift is the one who pulled all the strings for these shenanigans 

He cared enough to move his album back. 

[brenda-walsh]

1 minute ago, byzantium said:

He cared enough to move his album back. 

that would've still managed to debut at #1 last week 

[Clauss]

9 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

that would've still managed to debut at #1 last week 

Confirmation bias basically 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

Anti-Hero is thriving 

[byzantium]

54 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said:

that would've still managed to debut at #1 last week 

That is both unprovable and irrelevant to the conversation. The point is he cares enough about charts that the possibility of not getting number 1 motivated him. 

[est. in 90s]

Not Taylor out here showing what a true Rich Flex is

 

 

stomp stomp STOMP on those Treacherous Twins queen 

[Luckitty]

Good  I can't stand drake

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

So no, he did not care about the feud 

And yet he discounted his song and moved his album back, both things by y’all’s account are the signs of desperation and chart obsession 

Also lol at this now being a ~feud~

[Raphy23]

And Anti-Hero is passing 200M streams on Spotify today

[family.guy123]

12 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

People asking to remove SALES. The original metric of the Hot 100 that was (and still is) consumer driven.  

 

People used to buy physical singles. People used to buy digital singles from iTunes. Now people buy singles from artist’s websites. You can be mad at one person purchasing a song four times but that doesn’t change the fact that a sale is a sale. 

Would you remove box office gross from people who see a movie three or four times in theaters? No? They’re paying good money for those tickets, so that money contributes to the gross. The music industry is a business. Money is to be made. It is what it is.

People who buy multiple cinema tickets usually go and watch the movie. There’s zero reasons someone would need more than one digital copy of a song other than to influence the chart. Also, the box office is a revenue “chart”. The Hot 100 is a popularity/consumption chart so their purposes are different. I would actually be in favour of Billboard adding revenue charts for both singles and albums so that fans can see exactly how much they’re donating to record labels. 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Jennifer said:

His reach is miles above hers

Now, sis, let’s be fr 

[Karla Cabello]

if it means blocking drake