Hivy Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 BEY Katy Dominating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronsmithjune1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Halo - 10,700,000 And it didn't even hit #1 and became one of the most important ballads of the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cancer Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Where's Fergie? Pretty sure Big Girls Don't Cry sold at least 5 million by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caprice Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Where is Call Me Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/28/2017 at 4:57 AM, Caprice said: Where is Call Me Maybe Call Me Maybe is not added in Chart Masters yet.. but it surely sold 15m minimum... can't wait to add the other girls.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflysupreme Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 5:21 PM, aaronsmithjune1 said: Halo - 10,700,000 And it didn't even hit #1 and became one of the most important ballads of the past 20 years. This is WW, US charts are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 how did single ladies outsell WFL though? it doesn't make sense. WFL literally charted better everywhere, and had amazing longevity coupled with the fact that it was released at a better sales climate the list doesn't seem accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wehan6 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 katy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Costa Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Boots said: how did single ladies outsell WFL though? it doesn't make sense. WFL literally charted better everywhere, and had amazing longevity coupled with the fact that it was released at a better sales climate the list doesn't seem accurate Triggered i see LOL Go to the Beyoncé thread and see how it's broken down Edited May 31, 2017 by Diego_Costa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Diego_Costa said: Triggered i see LOL triggered about what? it was a reasonable question. i didn't bring anyone down. you didn't even have an answer. just came to say triggered. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Costa Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr Boots said: triggered about what? it was a reasonable question. i didn't bring anyone down. you didn't even have an answer. just came to say triggered. smh You seemed Triggered lol, go to the Beyoncé thread. Remember to check halo too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Diego_Costa said: You seemed Triggered lol, go to the Beyoncé thread. Remember to check halo too i don't have to. you can check wikipedia for their chart runs. you'll see how much better wfl did and sales for songs were a lot higher in 2011/2012 compared to 2008/2009. and there isn't any country in the world where single ladies is known to have outsold wfl. not US, UK, Jap, Ger, Fra, can, aug, italy. spain which are the biggest music markets or anywhere else. that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Amazing list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Mr Boots said: i don't have to. you can check wikipedia for their chart runs. you'll see how much better wfl did and sales for songs were a lot higher in 2011/2012 compared to 2008/2009. and there isn't any country in the world where single ladies is known to have outsold wfl. not US, UK, Jap, Ger, Fra, can, aug, italy. spain which are the biggest music markets or anywhere else. that's all MJD addresses this question: MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm Hi Arep! I’m afraid you are getting confused with Soundscan download sales only. Stay hasn’t outsold Irreplaceable by 1,5m in the US, quite the opposite as Irreplaceable sold 2 million more. The point is that you are fully missing Ringtones. Before smartphone propagation, people were buying ringtones as there was no iTunes app / proper music players on phones. You are comparing songs from the ringtones era of Beyoncé with songs from the downloads era of Rihanna while looking only at figures of the latter format. Please refer to below US figures. 2006 – era of Irreplaceable Downloads: 586m Ringtones: 315m Addition to downloads: 54% 2008 – era of Single Ladies Downloads: 1033m Ringtones: 338m Addition to downloads: 33% 2011 – era of We Found Love Downloads: 1306m Ringtones: 116m Addition to downloads: 9% 2012 – era of Stay Downloads: 1392m Ringtones: 69m Addition to downloads: 5% As you can see, you can’t just look at downloads to argue your point as while you are considering almost 100% of Rihanna singles sales, you are missing 33-54% of Beyoncé singles sales. While we do know some US figures for Ringtones – Irreplaceable alone shifted 3 million units in that format in 9 months in the US only – you need to consider the same situation was true in all other markets as well. Like Reply arepsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:49 pm oh so ringtones… were those also incoorporated for Rihanna? It seems like the single sales for A Girl Like Me and Good Girl Gone Bad are just pure download sales? I am sorry but this all seems so counter-intuitive, if you follow the charts worldwide you know Rihanna scores bigger (in terms of chart run and sales) hits at a way faster rate than Beyonce everywhere. Their single sales shouldn’t be this close. Like1 1 Reply MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:57 pm Yes they were! One key element in digital sales is the period. They keep selling forever. A mid-range hit can end up selling as much or more than a big #1 with several more years of sales. Beyoncé hits have been selling for more years, selling in ringtones too. Their sales are also more spread over years post-inital reception. If you check Rihanna streaming equivalent figures I posted, you will notice I Am… Sasha Fierce alone did as much as Music Of The Sun, A Girl Like Me, Good Girl Gone Bad and Rated R combined – although within’ last months they added some streams. The same is true for downloads, songs from Beyoncé albums kept selling at a much higher rate for many years than Rihanna songs. A hit like Halo wasn’t that big first in many places but ended up amassing huge figures everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainsskyscrapers Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Timber said: MJD addresses this question: MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm Hi Arep! I’m afraid you are getting confused with Soundscan download sales only. Stay hasn’t outsold Irreplaceable by 1,5m in the US, quite the opposite as Irreplaceable sold 2 million more. The point is that you are fully missing Ringtones. Before smartphone propagation, people were buying ringtones as there was no iTunes app / proper music players on phones. You are comparing songs from the ringtones era of Beyoncé with songs from the downloads era of Rihanna while looking only at figures of the latter format. Please refer to below US figures. 2006 – era of Irreplaceable Downloads: 586m Ringtones: 315m Addition to downloads: 54% 2008 – era of Single Ladies Downloads: 1033m Ringtones: 338m Addition to downloads: 33% 2011 – era of We Found Love Downloads: 1306m Ringtones: 116m Addition to downloads: 9% 2012 – era of Stay Downloads: 1392m Ringtones: 69m Addition to downloads: 5% As you can see, you can’t just look at downloads to argue your point as while you are considering almost 100% of Rihanna singles sales, you are missing 33-54% of Beyoncé singles sales. While we do know some US figures for Ringtones – Irreplaceable alone shifted 3 million units in that format in 9 months in the US only – you need to consider the same situation was true in all other markets as well. Like Reply arepsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:49 pm oh so ringtones… were those also incoorporated for Rihanna? It seems like the single sales for A Girl Like Me and Good Girl Gone Bad are just pure download sales? I am sorry but this all seems so counter-intuitive, if you follow the charts worldwide you know Rihanna scores bigger (in terms of chart run and sales) hits at a way faster rate than Beyonce everywhere. Their single sales shouldn’t be this close. Like1 1 Reply MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:57 pm Yes they were! One key element in digital sales is the period. They keep selling forever. A mid-range hit can end up selling as much or more than a big #1 with several more years of sales. Beyoncé hits have been selling for more years, selling in ringtones too. Their sales are also more spread over years post-inital reception. If you check Rihanna streaming equivalent figures I posted, you will notice I Am… Sasha Fierce alone did as much as Music Of The Sun, A Girl Like Me, Good Girl Gone Bad and Rated R combined – although within’ last months they added some streams. The same is true for downloads, songs from Beyoncé albums kept selling at a much higher rate for many years than Rihanna songs. A hit like Halo wasn’t that big first in many places but ended up amassing huge figures everywhere. When people finally figure out that Bey has been undervalued and some of her stats/sales haven't been updated since 2009/2010... that is when people become shook and silent, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Oop, looks like Telephone isn't Beyoncé's biggest WW after all. Or 2nd, or 3rd biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crescendolls. Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Bey that local bitch has so many classics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Timber said: MJD addresses this question: MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm Hi Arep! I’m afraid you are getting confused with Soundscan download sales only. Stay hasn’t outsold Irreplaceable by 1,5m in the US, quite the opposite as Irreplaceable sold 2 million more. The point is that you are fully missing Ringtones. Before smartphone propagation, people were buying ringtones as there was no iTunes app / proper music players on phones. You are comparing songs from the ringtones era of Beyoncé with songs from the downloads era of Rihanna while looking only at figures of the latter format. Please refer to below US figures. 2006 – era of Irreplaceable Downloads: 586m Ringtones: 315m Addition to downloads: 54% 2008 – era of Single Ladies Downloads: 1033m Ringtones: 338m Addition to downloads: 33% 2011 – era of We Found Love Downloads: 1306m Ringtones: 116m Addition to downloads: 9% 2012 – era of Stay Downloads: 1392m Ringtones: 69m Addition to downloads: 5% As you can see, you can’t just look at downloads to argue your point as while you are considering almost 100% of Rihanna singles sales, you are missing 33-54% of Beyoncé singles sales. While we do know some US figures for Ringtones – Irreplaceable alone shifted 3 million units in that format in 9 months in the US only – you need to consider the same situation was true in all other markets as well. Like Reply arepsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:49 pm oh so ringtones… were those also incoorporated for Rihanna? It seems like the single sales for A Girl Like Me and Good Girl Gone Bad are just pure download sales? I am sorry but this all seems so counter-intuitive, if you follow the charts worldwide you know Rihanna scores bigger (in terms of chart run and sales) hits at a way faster rate than Beyonce everywhere. Their single sales shouldn’t be this close. Like1 1 Reply MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:57 pm Yes they were! One key element in digital sales is the period. They keep selling forever. A mid-range hit can end up selling as much or more than a big #1 with several more years of sales. Beyoncé hits have been selling for more years, selling in ringtones too. Their sales are also more spread over years post-inital reception. If you check Rihanna streaming equivalent figures I posted, you will notice I Am… Sasha Fierce alone did as much as Music Of The Sun, A Girl Like Me, Good Girl Gone Bad and Rated R combined – although within’ last months they added some streams. The same is true for downloads, songs from Beyoncé albums kept selling at a much higher rate for many years than Rihanna songs. A hit like Halo wasn’t that big first in many places but ended up amassing huge figures everywhere. so ringtones are included? were ringtones still a thing in 2009/ can't really remember. anyway that's good to know. nvm. i've seen that ringtones were still quite a thing Edited May 31, 2017 by Mr Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonginBey Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Punch, Bey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael21 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Beyonce's pop classics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 5/31/2017 at 3:56 PM, Mr Boots said: how did single ladies outsell WFL though? it doesn't make sense. WFL literally charted better everywhere, and had amazing longevity coupled with the fact that it was released at a better sales climate the list doesn't seem accurate 19 hours ago, Timber said: MJD addresses this question: MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:16 pm Hi Arep! I’m afraid you are getting confused with Soundscan download sales only. Stay hasn’t outsold Irreplaceable by 1,5m in the US, quite the opposite as Irreplaceable sold 2 million more. The point is that you are fully missing Ringtones. Before smartphone propagation, people were buying ringtones as there was no iTunes app / proper music players on phones. You are comparing songs from the ringtones era of Beyoncé with songs from the downloads era of Rihanna while looking only at figures of the latter format. Please refer to below US figures. 2006 – era of Irreplaceable Downloads: 586m Ringtones: 315m Addition to downloads: 54% 2008 – era of Single Ladies Downloads: 1033m Ringtones: 338m Addition to downloads: 33% 2011 – era of We Found Love Downloads: 1306m Ringtones: 116m Addition to downloads: 9% 2012 – era of Stay Downloads: 1392m Ringtones: 69m Addition to downloads: 5% As you can see, you can’t just look at downloads to argue your point as while you are considering almost 100% of Rihanna singles sales, you are missing 33-54% of Beyoncé singles sales. While we do know some US figures for Ringtones – Irreplaceable alone shifted 3 million units in that format in 9 months in the US only – you need to consider the same situation was true in all other markets as well. Like Reply arepsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:49 pm oh so ringtones… were those also incoorporated for Rihanna? It seems like the single sales for A Girl Like Me and Good Girl Gone Bad are just pure download sales? I am sorry but this all seems so counter-intuitive, if you follow the charts worldwide you know Rihanna scores bigger (in terms of chart run and sales) hits at a way faster rate than Beyonce everywhere. Their single sales shouldn’t be this close. Like1 1 Reply MJDsays: December 27, 2016 at 1:57 pm Yes they were! One key element in digital sales is the period. They keep selling forever. A mid-range hit can end up selling as much or more than a big #1 with several more years of sales. Beyoncé hits have been selling for more years, selling in ringtones too. Their sales are also more spread over years post-inital reception. If you check Rihanna streaming equivalent figures I posted, you will notice I Am… Sasha Fierce alone did as much as Music Of The Sun, A Girl Like Me, Good Girl Gone Bad and Rated R combined – although within’ last months they added some streams. The same is true for downloads, songs from Beyoncé albums kept selling at a much higher rate for many years than Rihanna songs. A hit like Halo wasn’t that big first in many places but ended up amassing huge figures everywhere. tbh I was shocked with how big beyonce's single are doing, considerating their cjart runs and particular certs per country. I was thinking back then that he migh've overestimated it or the certs and numbers are not just updated.. but hey, all of his numbers are kinda accurate.. proves once again that at some point CHARTS aren't evrything.. for example BTW charting 9weeks only at top10 in US but selling 10m WW.. it was really big in asia SMASHA, like Japan alone 1M sold ringtone and .25 downloads.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisuke Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Aw Telephone aint bey her biggest song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Wow Rihanna Such consistency over 10 + years no one comes close to her. She was so easily able to transition from sales to streaming as well while the other girls Bar Adele died like flies. Will be interesting to see if Taylor falls inline with Adele and Rihanna Or Gaga, Beyonce and Katy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExposerReloaded Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I believe that if this was updated Meghan would have at least 2 entries and AATB would be in the top 20. JS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 6/3/2017 at 2:19 AM, ExposerReloaded said: I believe that if this was updated Meghan would have at least 2 entries and AATB would be in the top 20. JS yeah.. AATB is a global SMASH.. waiting for new updates in chartmasters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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