charts discussion Billboard: "Lift Me Up" 27k sales in 3 days; 15 million on-demand streams

[Paola Bracho]

3 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

Nah we are not suffering, we are enjoying the biggest kii after Navy keeps claiming how organic Rih is and she would never use any cheap tactic yet LMU is currently pulling the most suspicious fraudulent tricks 

I hope autosuggestion works for you!

[Cloröx]

5 minutes ago, Lein said:

oh really the radio deals that have been around for the last 20? 30? years. That isn't really a trick is it. 

 

A lot of Rih's songs missed #1. I remember This is what you came For needed just a discount to hit #1 yet it peaked #2, Stay #3, Wild Thoughts #2. I haven't seen any push in the last 10 years since Loud basically to boost a song to #1.   

You do realize that LMU set new record for the biggest radio launch ever. It is understandable if the song is smashing in every department but nope it's tanking in streaming despite huge playlisting. Now the song relies on radio payola, the easiest BBH100 to be manipulated by label, and it also gets questionable sales despite being blocked on iTunes. 

[Lein]

3 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

You do realize that LMU set new record for the biggest radio launch ever. It is understandable if the song is smashing in every department but nope it's tanking in streaming despite huge playlisting. Now the song relies on radio payola, the easiest BBH100 to be manipulated by label, and it also gets questionable sales despite being blocked on iTunes. 

"questionable" ok then. It had two versions charting (the instrumental one) and clearly the whatver kpop guy spiked over one day. 

 

Again all big lead singles had radio payola/deal  

 

If soundscan says it sold 27k in three days then are they frauding their own system for Rihanna that seems very weird.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Lein

[MardinBeksloy]

fdakjsl not her fans thinking this is a competition when there is no competition to begin with. Rihanna is not fighting with Taylor on any user-oriented platform, just payola through radio and fraudulent disney sale.

[Cloröx]

4 minutes ago, Lein said:

"questionable" ok then. It had two versions charting (the instrumental one) and clearly the whatver kpop guy spiked over one day. 

 

Again all big lead singles had radio payola/deal  

 

If soundscan says it sold 27k in three days then are they frauding their own system for Rihanna that seems very weird.

 

 

Indeed most lead singles have radio deals (Cardigan, Willow, ATW10-min have none anyway) but not at this magnitude. I mean it's not even a week yet LMU has accumulated greater airplays than Anti-Hero and Unholy by a lot 

 

What do you expect from her label, they have a deal with Samsung before to inflate Anti stat so I'm not surprise if they're resorting to another cheap tactic 

[Lein]

1 minute ago, Cloröx said:

Indeed most lead singles have radio deals (Cardigan, Willow, ATW10-min have none anyway) but not at this magnitude. I mean it's not even a week yet LMU has accumulated greater airplays than Anti-Hero and Unholy by a lot 

 

What do you expect from her label, they have a deal with Samsung before to inflate Anti stat so I'm not surprise if they're resorting to another cheap tactic 

The deal with Samsung didn't impact Soundscan (only RIAA) whose data are being questioned though.

[Paola Bracho]

7 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

Indeed most lead singles have radio deals (Cardigan, Willow, ATW10-min have none anyway) but not at this magnitude. I mean it's not even a week yet LMU has accumulated greater airplays than Anti-Hero and Unholy by a lot 

 

What do you expect from her label, they have a deal with Samsung before to inflate Anti stat so I'm not surprise if they're resorting to another cheap tactic 

Thanks to that Samsung deal that didn't affect the charts Anti is still charting after 7 years! Try at least to make some sense with your desperate attempts.

[zzmyth]

What do Taylor fans care? 

 

She is doing the best numbers of her career.... Shouldn't you guys be enjoying and celebrating? 

 

I mean... It's kinda crazy that you guys focus on someone else with the good things that are happening in your base 

[Paola Bracho]

Just now, zzmyth said:

What do Taylor fans care? 

 

She is doing the best numbers of her career.... Shouldn't you guys be enjoying and celebrating? 

 

I mean... It's kinda crazy that you guys focus on someone else with the good things that are happening in your base 

The misery is real!

[rihannafan]

2 minutes ago, zzmyth said:

What do Taylor fans care? 

 

She is doing the best numbers of her career.... Shouldn't you guys be enjoying and celebrating? 

 

I mean... It's kinda crazy that you guys focus on someone else with the good things that are happening in your base 

Their fave spent her most successful era attacking another popstar, so like fave like stans

[Cloröx]

11 minutes ago, Lein said:

The deal with Samsung didn't impact Soundscan (only RIAA) whose data are being questioned though.

5 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said:

Thanks to that Samsung deal that didn't affect the charts Anti is still charting after 7 years! Try at least to make some sense with your desperate attempts.

You didn't get the point, right? I'm pointing out on how her label is so desperate to promote her music at some points 

[Cloröx]

6 minutes ago, zzmyth said:

What do Taylor fans care? 

 

She is doing the best numbers of her career.... Shouldn't you guys be enjoying and celebrating? 

 

I mean... It's kinda crazy that you guys focus on someone else with the good things that are happening in your base 

Are you new in ATRL? Not familiar with ATRL culture? 

[sugarysunflower]

I don’t understand the Swifties.

 

why would Disney buy the song which will dent their profit and loss account, just for a chart position? What do THEY materially benefit from this? 

[Monster Queen]

8 minutes ago, zzmyth said:

What do Taylor fans care? 

 

She is doing the best numbers of her career.... Shouldn't you guys be enjoying and celebrating? 

 

I mean... It's kinda crazy that you guys focus on someone else with the good things that are happening in your base 

Imagine doing the best numbers of your career and being robbed by the fraudulence and tricks

[Monster Queen]

Just now, sugarysunflower said:

I don’t understand the Swifties.

 

why would Disney buy the song which will dent their profit and loss account, just for a chart position? What do THEY materially benefit from this? 

So how can you explain it’s sales? This songs only stayed at the top of iTunes for one day and it sold 27k copies in three day?? Where did they come from? We doubt it cause we’re not foolish

[sugarysunflower]

1 minute ago, Monster Queen said:

So how can you explain it’s sales? This songs only stayed at the top of iTunes for one day and it sold 27k copies in three day?? Where did they come from? We doubt it cause we’re not foolish

You don’t answer the original question though. 
 

y’all are postulating it’s Disney, but cannot put 2+2 together. 

[Paola Bracho]

Just now, Monster Queen said:

So how can you explain it’s sales? This songs only stayed at the top of iTunes for one day and it sold 27k copies in three day?? Where did they come from? We doubt it cause we’re not foolish

Why do people think that lies work in the era of internet and even more for something that happened in the last 7 days!!! Every comment a new low!

[rihannafan]

1 minute ago, Monster Queen said:

So how can you explain it’s sales? This songs only stayed at the top of iTunes for one day and it sold 27k copies in three day?? Where did they come from? We doubt it cause we’re not foolish

It has 2 versions, the BTS song probably sold a lot for a few hours. Itunes is a 24 hour rolling chart, that's why LMU's main version topped itunes on saturday, after the BTS spike went away. These conspiracy theories are insane lmao. Why would billboard lie about her sales?

[Monster Queen]

Just now, sugarysunflower said:

You don’t answer the original question though. 
 

y’all are postulating it’s Disney, but cannot put 2+2 together. 

Well cause we don’t where did this sale came so the only thing we can do is to assume different theories. Hope Billboard provided its sales breakdown officially otherwise only the god knows what happened here

[wildthaughts]

Haters are still crying over 27k sales, imagine if it was some Nicki type website sales.

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

It’s so unfair  Anti-Hero deserves another week at #1

[simmnfierzig]

18 minutes ago, sugarysunflower said:

I don’t understand the Swifties.

 

why would Disney buy the song which will dent their profit and loss account, just for a chart position? What do THEY materially benefit from this? 

Promotion for the movie. News about it debuting #1 is a lot better and will be more reported than #2. 

But yeah I dont think the sales are fake

[zzmyth]

1 hour ago, Monster Queen said:

So how can you explain it’s sales? This songs only stayed at the top of iTunes for one day and it sold 27k copies in three day?? Where did they come from? We doubt it cause we’re not foolish

The first day she was #2 behind a Kpop guy that we all know have bulk sales.

 

And then she has been #1 on itunes for 3 days straight and now its #2... its not like it went #73

 

Let's not forget about Tidal tho....

 

the conspiracy continues..... lol

[Pleeny]

Why is everyone up and arms of this is a legit hit or not?

 

a) there have been so many unworthy #1s in the past few years 

 

b) just like all of them, it’ll have a #1 next to it name rather you like it or not

[Sweetestsecret]

12 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

People are just confused.

Everyone is very surprised at that sales number.

iTunes is where almost all sales happen and it wasnt #1 there... And sold 16k first day. More than most sales #1s sell for a full week currently

 

But of course the number is accurate. I know that. Still dont understand it

BTS member was #1 on itunes and we know the fans went crazy buying it..Rihanna still made it to #1 for 48++ hours..maybe she had a big lead..also don't forget the instrumental version..that version was high as well on the charts the first days of the release..

Edited November 3, 2022 by Sweetestsecret