charts discussion Billboard: "Lift Me Up" 27k sales in 3 days; 15 million on-demand streams

[foreverwinter13]

12 minutes ago, pierreleswiftie said:

It's worse than BTS paying radio and tricking sales. BTS only mass buy they don't cheat.

The Navy still used the excuse that this is Disney's works but it is under the faves Label 

 

 

[MardinBeksloy]

Xjdjdhhd not this fraud now being pushed with rule change in the MIDDLE of the tracking week. disney is scary i-

[Sombre]

I love Rih and i love the song, but there's definitely something fishy going on with the sales.  

[pierreleswiftie]

17 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

Exactly. Rihanna basically pulls frauds but on steroid. All those shady comments on Taylor, BTS and Beyonce now backfired. But at least all those three artists hit #1 meanwhile we are not even sure Rih will get it unless she adds another tricks  

I now think she will get it, the energy put behind this song is truly something else. At this point Rihanna and her team will do anything for that #1. Wonder if Bernard Arnault is going so sign a cheque next or make a generous donation. 

 

The Radio numbers  

The sales not adding up 

The YouTube views for a video that has 0 replay/entertainment value 

The streaming numbers well below 2 other songs 

[aesthetic bih]

8 hours ago, ninasayers said:

Already coming up with the conspiracy theories.  

 

It's only logical that this is all Disney's doings. She's never pushed a single this hard.

I also agree with this theory, to me it's one that's the most sensible. Disney probably got spoiled with We Don't Talk About Bruno's success and trying to score another one by booking Rihanna and doing all these tactics to make sure it charts high.

 

 

No way Rihanna cares about a damn soundtrack, it's just not realistic. She doesn't even try with her own singles/albums lbr.

[pierreleswiftie]

1 minute ago, aesthetic bih said:

I also agree with this theory, to me it's one that's the most sensible. Disney probably got spoiled with We Don't Talk About Bruno's success and trying to score another one by booking Rihanna and doing all these tactics to make sure it charts high.

 

 

No way Rihanna cares about a damn soundtrack, it's just not realistic. She doesn't even try with her own singles/albums lbr.

She does actually, if the song doesn't go #1 for her long awaited return, it could damage her image/brand for her businesses with LVMH.

[aesthetic bih]

12 minutes ago, pierreleswiftie said:

She does actually, if the song doesn't go #1 for her long awaited return, it could damage her image/brand for her businesses with LVMH.

I doubt that LVMH cares about the performance of a soundtrack single... 

[ImsoLOUD]

6 minutes ago, pierreleswiftie said:

She does actually, if the song doesn't go #1 for her long awaited return, it could damage her image/brand for her businesses with LVMH.

and this is what you are afraid of 

 

Rihanna’s last #1 was 9 weeks long you will be lucky to get to week #2 

[kandicha]

6 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said:

I also agree with this theory, to me it's one that's the most sensible. Disney probably got spoiled with We Don't Talk About Bruno's success and trying to score another one by booking Rihanna and doing all these tactics to make sure it charts high.

 

 

No way Rihanna cares about a damn soundtrack, it's just not realistic. She doesn't even try with her own singles/albums lbr.

I think it's about the Oscar tbh. BP1 got 3 Oscars. Meanwhile, according to some awards predictors on awardsworthy who've seen BP2 it's not as good as the first (though I guess we will have to wait for the reviews to see if it's just not as good as BP1 or if it's actively bad) and they think that the only category BP2 could even be competitive in at the Oscars this year is Best Original Song. Disney is desperate for that Oscars validation.

[pierreleswiftie]

1 minute ago, aesthetic bih said:

I doubt that LVMH cares about the performance of a soundtrack single... 

They are the reason she's worth a billion, ofc they do. 

[pierreleswiftie]

2 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said:

and this is what you are afraid of 

 

Rihanna’s last #1 was 9 weeks long you will be lucky to get to week #2 

Rihanna last #1 was a bop. This is a snooze fest. 

[Paola Bracho]

Not Swifties still suffering in here while all the predictions put Taylor on the top spot!! You re something else!

 

[Monster Queen]

3 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said:

Not Swifties still suffering in here while all the predictions put Taylor on the top spot!! You re something else!

 

So when should we suffer if not now? When Billboard finally reveals the song with the biggest radio launch of all time and at #31 on both US Spotify and AM steals Anti-Hero second week at #1? 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Monster Queen

[Protocol]

Rihanna isn't new to using tricks to get #1s. "SOS", "Umbrella", and "Take a Bow" were all repressed for weeks and weeks so that their first week of digital sales would send them flying up the charts when they already had good airplay. Same with "What's My Name?". "S&M" needed the Britney remix to reach #1. Of course she has many other organic #1s.

 

But this is nothing new. The song won't be a hit, its streaming numbers are terrible for such a high-profile comeback.

 

If her next single isn't a bop she's in trouble.

[Lein]

People questioning Soundscan's numbers lmao.  

 

2 minutes ago, Protocol said:

Rihanna isn't new to using tricks to get #1s. "SOS", "Umbrella", and "Take a Bow" were all repressed for weeks and weeks so that their first week of digital sales would send them flying up the charts when they already had good airplay. Same with "What's My Name?". "S&M" needed the Britney remix to reach #1. Of course she has many other organic #1s.

 

But this is nothing new. The song won't be a hit, its streaming numbers are terrible for such a high-profile comeback.

 

If her next single isn't a bop she's in trouble.

SOS - 2006

Umbrella - 2007

Take a bow - 2008

S&M - 2010

 

welcome to 2022

Edited November 3, 2022 by Lein

[Orsay]

if it goes #1, it will low-key be a quick fraud #1. 

[Protocol]

3 minutes ago, Lein said:

People questioning Soundscan's numbers lmao.  

 

SOS - 2006

Umbrella - 2007

Take a bow - 2008

S&M - 2010

 

welcome to 2022

Congrats on using Wikipedia, but the point is that she's using tricks right now so what's good?

[ImsoLOUD]

Wikipedia is more credible than ATRL. Which has zero receipts, for starters. 
 

 

Edited November 3, 2022 by ImsoLOUD

[Lein]

3 minutes ago, Protocol said:

Congrats on using Wikipedia, but the point is that she's using tricks right now so what's good?

and what are these tricks exactly. I don't see any proof only tears over a soundtrack song.

[Protocol]

5 minutes ago, Lein said:

and what are these tricks exactly. I don't see any proof only tears over a soundtrack song.

How many Mercedes did Roc Nation buy iHeart executives for it to be #12 on overall radio only five days after release?

 

Not even Madonna's "Erotica", which broke radio records at the time and was her first single on her $80M Maverick/Warner deal and the follow-up single to the biggest hitmaking phase of any female artist ever (she was coming off Like a Prayer/Vogue/Immaculate Collection) got that high that fast.

 

There is something shady in the water

[Paola Bracho]

15 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

So when should we suffer if not now? When Billboard finally reveals the song with the biggest radio launch of all time and at #31 on both US Spotify and AM steals Anti-Hero second week at #1? 

Isn't it reasonable? Why the dysphoria for something every prediction telling you ain't happening?

[Lein]

Just now, Protocol said:

How many Mercedes did Roc Nation buy iHeart executives for it to be #12 on overall radio only five days after release?

oh really the radio deals that have been around for the last 20? 30? years. That isn't really a trick is it. 

 

A lot of Rih's songs missed #1. I remember This is what you came For needed just a discount to hit #1 yet it peaked #2, Stay #3, Wild Thoughts #2. I haven't seen any push in the last 10 years since Loud basically to boost a song to #1.   

[Monster Queen]

19 minutes ago, Lein said:

and what are these tricks exactly. I don't see any proof only tears over a soundtrack song.

LMU broke the record for biggest radio launch in US history with a reported 519 adds across all-formats. It currently has 9 versions of video on YouTube. It has instrumentAl version of audio which will also be count to HOT100. It’s at #1 on TTH and so many big playlists and has dropped out the top 30 of both US Spotify and AM four day after release. But even with this tragic streams LMU is challenging the top spot against the song which is currently at #1 on US AM, Spotify and iTunes, and this song also performed great on radio. If you can’t see the tricks you must be blind

Edited November 3, 2022 by Monster Queen

[Cloröx]

26 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said:

Not Swifties still suffering in here while all the predictions put Taylor on the top spot!! You re something else!

 

Nah we are not suffering, we are enjoying the biggest kii after Navy keeps claiming how organic Rih is and she would never use any cheap tactic yet LMU is currently pulling the most suspicious fraudulent tricks 

[politeone]

3 hours ago, PerfectSacrifice said:

Streams for LMU are much better than I expected omg the gap is really close, haven’t seen this level of competition between MPG singles in a while

Right! As a former chart enthusiast, this has been so entertaining to see. Everyone's mad and dragging, it's just like the old days  Here for Rih getting #1 this week or in the next two, either way both fan groups win