discussion Cis woman gets harassed in bathroom by transphobe who thinks she's trans

[Scars]

10 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

I'm not transphobic, I'm a transmedicalist which means I support trans rights.

[Headlock]

5 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

Girl, as I said, you are using a tiny sample of women from one country to prove your point lmao. Look, we got 20 women from America and asked them this question and all 8 of them said they support it, oh wow That statistic definitely proves men get to tell women how they feel about issues that are about them.

 

I'm not even saying you don't get to voice your opinion, the same way no one can stop you from voicing your opinion about issues like abortion, but you are constantly talking over women and acting like their opinions are worthless by labeling any issues they have as transphobic. Who do you think your way of thinking is benefiting exactly? It's not helping women and it's not helping trans people either even tho you think it is.

The way you completely avoided answering my question 

How does trans women using the women's restroom impact you?

[Mobility Mary]

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

The way you completely avoided answering my question 

How does trans women using the women's restroom impact you?

How does it not?

[Headlock]

6 minutes ago, Scars said:

I snorted when they said that 

[Headlock]

Just now, Mobility Mary said:

How does it not?

That is not how this works. The burden of proof is on you. You are claiming it impacts you. You have to provide proof 

[Reginald]

Misogyny is the root of transphobia. It's ironic, and sad, to see people criticize  women (both cis, and trans) for what they perceive to be unacceptable features.

 

 

[Mobility Mary]

2 minutes ago, Headlock said:

That is not how this works. The burden of proof is on you. You are claiming it impacts you. You have to provide proof 

I don't even remember saying it impacts me, maybe you are mistaking me for someone else in this topic

[John Slayne]

9 hours ago, Mikeymoonshine said:

I've heard this happens to a lot of cis women, probably happens to cis women more than trans people tbh. 

given that trans people are a very small portion of the population and a lot of cis women display features that are not considered traditionally feminine or dress more butch, this is probably right. 

 

this is what the transphobic cult does to your brain. it's so backwards for everyone, not just trans people, but cis women and men too. it's ironic that these people will often call themselves 'gender critical' but instead of being critical of oppressive gender norms they are trying to enforce them harder than ever, to the detriment of even cis women. 

 

simone de beauvoir is rolling in her grave, terfs are an absolute disaster for feminism and women's liberation.

[John Slayne]

9 hours ago, xclusivestylesz said:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A bathroom for women and another for trans women

even if this wasn't terrible transphobic segregation, how would it solve the issue? the woman who got harassed was cis, she would not be using the trans bathroom even in your hypothetical scenario, so she would still get harassed for using the 'wrong' bathroom  

[A.R.L]

Disgusting woman. But, the way how security shut her big mouth. 

 

Unisex public toilets exist and are the solution 

[CaptainMusic]

9 hours ago, Communion said:

So instead of this cis woman yelling at another cis woman she perceives as trans to go to the men's room, you'd want her to instead be yelling at another cis woman she perceives as trans to go to the trans women's bathroom? 

 

50 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

I didn't say that 100% of people need to agree, just that men like you need to stop telling women how to feel about issues that impact them.

And yet you’re here doing just that, no one man or woman can speak for how most women feel.

 

The stats show that most women are fine with it and that is what matters so get over it. 

[Headlock]

30 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

I don't even remember saying it impacts me, maybe you are mistaking me for someone else in this topic

 

52 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

men like you need to stop telling women how to feel about issues that impact them. 

You are so deeply unserious 

[Mobility Mary]

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

 

You are so deeply unserious 

Ok? So I haven't said it? Interesting

[Jude]

So embarrassing.

[Headlock]

18 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said:

Ok? So I haven't said it? Interesting

So then you're speaking for these supposed women who are impacted too? 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Headlock

[MonsterJohn]

That karen and some people in this thread need some curb stomp, ******* waste of oxygen 

[Kamil24]

11 hours ago, Ombre said:

One time I was visiting this cited called Toronto in a country called Canada and I stopped by huge mall that had a unisex bathroom. It had all stalls and a janitor constantly in it. It was actually really nice and clean and it didnt even feel weird.

This is probably the best option, having a washroom for everyone to use. But even in Toronto, there are still 2 washrooms even though many were changed to unisex, and people still use the one that used to match their sex. My female friend recently went into a unisex washroom but it was all males inside and she got stares from everyone the entire time she was in there, even though it was technically unisex.

[Mobility Mary]

1 hour ago, MonsterJohn said:

That karen and some people in this thread need some curb stomp, ******* waste of oxygen 

Oh, look, a gay guy being misogynistic. How original

[MonsterJohn]

1 hour ago, Mobility Mary said:

Oh, look, a gay guy being misogynistic. How original

how the **** is it misogynistic. You are really stupid

[Communion]

7 hours ago, Mobility Mary said:

Girl, as I said, you are using a tiny sample of women

Why are you advocating for the harassment of cis women who do not abided by patriarchal gender expression? 

Why are you refusing to listen to the voices of women when they speak on how "gender critical" feminism is harmful? 

[Mobility Mary]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

Why are you advocating for the harassment of cis women who do not abided by patriarchal gender expression? 

Why are you refusing to listen to the voices of women when they speak on how "gender critical" feminism is harmful? 

I have no idea what you are even trying to say, sorry

[Communion]

Just now, Mobility Mary said:

I have no idea what you are even trying to say, sorry

Here, let me repeat myself:

 

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

Why are you advocating for the harassment of cis women who do not abided by patriarchal gender expression? 

 

Why are you refusing to listen to the voices of women when they speak on how "gender critical" feminism is harmful? 

Why do you promote violence against cis women at the hands of other cis women and cis men and defend it by pretending that you're protecting cis women from trans women?

 

Why did you try and suggest on page 1 that the cis woman in the original video had to be lying about being accosted and threatened for having a small frame and short hair?

 

Is the point of your "gender critical feminism" to force all cis women to undergo breast enlargement and hyper-feminization of their gender expression to avoid being harassed by your "how to spot a trans" ideology? 

[Mobility Mary]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

Here, let me repeat myself:

 

Why do you promote violence against cis women at the hands of other cis women and cis men and defend it by pretending that you're protecting cis women from trans women?

 

Why did you try and suggest on page 1 that the cis woman in the original video had to be lying about being accosted and threatened for having a small frame and short hair?

 

Is the point of your "gender critical feminism" to force all cis women to undergo breast enlargement and hyper-feminization of their gender expression to avoid being harassed by your "how to spot a trans" ideology? 

Who said that? I don't think you know what radical feminism is. How did you even reach the conclusion that the woman in the video is radfem?

[shinyshimmery]

We need unisex/universal restrooms in ALL public spaces. It shouldn't be too hard to convert women/men only restrooms into all inclusive ones.... just add floor to ceiling partitions and doors and have a communal style layout for sinks/vanities.... problem solved! it's literally the same as the bathrooms in our own private homes.... they are for everyone!!!

[JonginBey]

17 hours ago, fountain said:

So disgusting

 

I really don’t understand how we are supposed to deal or reason with people like this when they are literally hate embodied. Like wtf is the solution 

Kill them.