Protocol Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 2:59 PM, Boysdontcry said: Romance - Camila Cabello. The direction for the album that was worked on throughout late 2018 - early 2019 was just scrapped (Taxi as the lead single) when some relationship contract was signed with Shawn Mendes (Liar & Shameless recorded last minute as the new lead singles). Camila just couldn't agree with her label on a single to promote. The label would send 1 song to pop radio, and then she'd chose to perform a completely different song on live tv. You could just tell she hated certain songs on that album & just the era as a whole. She's said she feels that album is cursed. And a lot of people turned on her in that era. Halsey got mad at her for apparently copying her & Ariana just decided to shun Camila. With the lack of a hit single, it just ruined her chances of moving into MPG territory. 'Anyone' should've been kept on the album and promoted as the lead single in my opinion. This is a good one, and a very strange case too. How bad and confusing single choices can really kill a project and an artist’s hype. “Señorita” should’ve been her lead single IMO, it feels more Camila feat. Shawn than the other way around. If they hadn’t done the PR romance, and “Anyone” was the second single with “My Oh My” third, she’d still be a big pop star IMO.
SwiftLover Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Artpop the way she’s been on a recovery tour ever since
CroNich Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 This era was such a mess; between the delays, Die Young being pulled from the radio, Kesha speaking out but hating the direction of the album, the single choices, that awful Will.i.am remix and this hideous cover. Such a shame because there are some great songs on here and if she was allowed more creative control it properly would’ve turned out more like what Rainbow was but alas 1
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 21 hours ago, DammnBaby said: I can't, because no one has ever done pop-dancehall fusion, before or since. so a ground breaking album sonically that the basic GP Were not ready for. Thanks for confirming.
DammnBaby Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: so a ground breaking album sonically that the basic GP Were not ready for. Thanks for confirming. You are the only person who has ever made this highly spurious claim about Witless, and I admire your willingness to just go for it.
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 I would say Damita Jo by Janet, it was such a horrendous follow up to All for you. People like to drone on about the Superbowl thing but the reality is the music was just not good at that point and Janets schtick had got very boring and repetitive.
rebeltwat Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, CroNich said: This era was such a mess; between the delays, Die Young being pulled from the radio, Kesha speaking out but hating the direction of the album, the single choices, that awful Will.i.am remix and this hideous cover. Such a shame because there are some great songs on here and if she was allowed more creative control it properly would’ve turned out more like what Rainbow was but alas This album's better than Rainbow tho 1
CroNich Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, rebeltwat said: This album's better than Rainbow tho Opinions are like a**holes I guess. I also didn't speak on the quality of the album just how the era was managed. But now that you've brought it up at least half the album screams filler.
suburbannature Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Virtual_Insanity said: I would say Damita Jo by Janet, it was such a horrendous follow up to All for you. People like to drone on about the Superbowl thing but the reality is the music was just not good at that point and Janets schtick had got very boring and repetitive. It’s literally better than AFY.
sciencemagic Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Queen the end of Ms Petty's imperial phase when she wasn't able to match Cardi's domination
Moonlight Nation Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: I would say Damita Jo by Janet, it was such a horrendous follow up to All for you. People like to drone on about the Superbowl thing but the reality is the music was just not good at that point and Janets schtick had got very boring and repetitive. "Just A Little While", the lead single, was a very unexpected turn for Janet sonically and got glowing reviews upon release. According to the Wikipedia article on the song: Quote Upon its official release, "Just a Little While" quickly became the most added and played song on pop radio formats [...] but suffered when Jackson's blacklist was commenced by major radio broadcasters who were fined after Jackson's Super Bowl incident, affecting its performance worldwide. It's also a great tune. The subsequent singles, "I Want You" and "All Nite (Don't Stop)", were both excellent and showcased distinct facets of the project. I really don't understand your claims. I love "All For You", but its singles (bar "Son Of A Gun") were much safer and 'predictable' in comparison, but smashed regardless, so you can't say her schtick got repetitive for the GP. The Nipplegate backlash and blacklist were undeniably the main reason for "Damita Jo" 's underperformance. Nothing to do with the quality of the album. And even if it had been subpar, she would have still scored at least one hit out of hype had the blacklist never happened.
DanceAgain Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Not career ending but kinda a Weird release. AKA She put out I luh ya papi and performed it on American Idol Released First Love then went on to promote booty First love went top15 on Pop radio, and made some appearance's on some international charts but moved onto booty before it had a chance. also they was 0 international Promotion, Didn't even get a proper single release, the album had 0 buzz people literally didn't even know she dropped the album The CD wasn't even stocked in several retailers that sold CDs literally only HMV and I think I a few Tesco's store's had a few copies. it was literally just put out there with no hype or buzz or promotion or anything no wonder it tanked no one even knew she released a single let alone a studio album capitol really did the album dirty Edited October 18, 2022 by DanceAgain
Sexyzinger Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 10:17 AM, KatyPrismSpirit said: This is probably the first OG flop era for a pop girl. It's the risk of a radical change in image and sound. Radical change can really either be highly successful or a massive failure. there is really no in between. The thing with Bionic was that Christina felt hounded by competition to venture into EDM, didnt want to be left behind. If only she made that shift more organic it could've been a little more succesful. Her career would have really looked extremely different if it wasnt for this LP This is incorrect. She said in 2008 she was exploring futuristic sounds and wanted a drastic change in direction from Back to Basics.
Virgos Groove Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 8:29 PM, Afterglow said: When you mention Britney, people automatically think to speak "Work *****!" This is a bigger disrespect to Britney than any OBH could ever come up with.
Virgos Groove Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 3:41 AM, Hidden said: the Thank You album by Meghan Trainor absolutely deleted her from the music landscape This is an interesting one. She got two hits from that album, yet she already felt completely irrelevant by the end of 2016.
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 21 hours ago, suburbannature said: It’s literally better than AFY. Literally no one agrees with you since it tanked and bombed everywhere. AFY smashed.
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 15 hours ago, Moonlight Nation said: "Just A Little While", the lead single, was a very unexpected turn for Janet sonically and got glowing reviews upon release. According to the Wikipedia article on the song: It's also a great tune. The subsequent singles, "I Want You" and "All Nite (Don't Stop)", were both excellent and showcased distinct facets of the project. I really don't understand your claims. I love "All For You", but its singles (bar "Son Of A Gun") were much safer and 'predictable' in comparison, but smashed regardless, so you can't say her schtick got repetitive for the GP. The Nipplegate backlash and blacklist were undeniably the main reason for "Damita Jo" 's underperformance. Nothing to do with the quality of the album. And even if it had been subpar, she would have still scored at least one hit out of hype had the blacklist never happened. It's dreadful IMO and definitely ended her career. There was no "blacklist" in Europe and it flopped too.
suburbannature Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Literally no one agrees with you since it tanked and bombed everywhere. AFY smashed. It bombed because it was released right after the Super Bowl but it's far better in quality.
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, suburbannature said: It bombed because it was released right after the Super Bowl but it's far better in quality. It bombed in Europe also and no one gave a damn about what happened at the Superbowl in Europe lol. The album sucked.
suburbannature Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: It bombed in Europe also and no one gave a damn about what happened at the Superbowl in Europe lol. The album sucked. It's not 2004. We accept that Damita Jesus is a strong album now.
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, suburbannature said: It's not 2004. We accept that Damita Jesus is a strong album now. Speak for yourself. It's still unlistenable apart from JALW which was a cute bop at best, but not lead single material.
Protocol Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 "Just a Little While" is an awkward song with bad production IMO. Her vocals also are not convincing, too thin for a pop rock song. The whole song sounds like it's missing something, like an unfinished demo. The Superbowl hurt but that song is what really sealed her fate IMO, it just wasn't going to be a hit no matter what. It just doesn't hit the same way her prior hits do.
theflying Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 Holy crap, just looked up Lorde on Spotify… NONE of the songs from the newest album are in her top 10. ???
Yog Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) On 10/16/2022 at 9:21 PM, Insanity said: Don't worry yog SM5 will rejuvenate his career but its good to see ur so worried about him Than you wake up.. On 10/16/2022 at 9:24 PM, Insanity said: The albums themselves didn't really destroy the careers it was usually the actions during the album eras they still could have been saved but strl isn't ready for that discussion Much like an certain someone was trying his best to copy Harry Styles aesthetics and failed.. Edited October 23, 2022 by Yog
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