MusicLoverDude Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Definitely Wonder by Shawn Mendes. A boring failed attempt at being a more serious artist. His ex-girlfriend is now doing better than him on the charts
KOMH Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Born This Way, as evidenced by its weeks (or lack thereof) in the top 10 and effect it had on the ensuing album(s).
NausAllien Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 10:45 PM, Protocol said: Cyndi Lauper - A Night to Remember: Despite a minor hit, this album and its dated image ensured that she would be left in the 80s. It ended her career as a major pop star. Of course she still had success after in other fields. Head Over Heels - Paula Abdul: bombed so badly that she was dropped and never released another album Invincible - Michael Jackson: Selling 7M copies would be a hit for anyone else, but for an album that cost $30 million to make and coming off a streak of five 20M+ sellers in a row, it was a bomb. Truly career-destroying in the most literal sense, he never released music again after this album. Bionic - Christina Aguilera: demoted her from one of the leading ladies of pop music as she had been in the 2000s to a quick lil features girl and nostalgia act MDNA - Madonna: Hard to put it here since at that point no matter what she was still a legend, but this was the era that definitively downgraded her from still being a contemporary artist getting hits like she had been in the noughties and put her in legacy act territory. Still one of the worst lead singles ever and such a wasted opportunity considering the Superbowl, multiple features, $5M budget video, and that she still had hype (GMAYL sold 280k copies in its first 10 days in the US). Britney Jean - Britney Spears: destroyed the facade of her 'comeback' that her previous two albums had established (to somewhat mixed results in FF's case) and ended her career as a major hitmaker. I would also say the Myah Marie question and overall weirdness of the era was low key the start of the free Britney movement as many stans started to question exactly what was going on behind the scenes. Witness - Katy Perry: Despite somewhat decent stats compared to the albums above, it completely killed her status as one of the major stars of pop music. Her next album bombed so badly it did less than 50k first week and was off the charts in a month. Man of the Woods - Justin Timberlake: Prime example of how the Superbowl can be a double edged sword, if you don't deliver then you just broadcast your failure to the whole of America. Bad lead single, confused image and sound, mediocre music. It flopped so badly and ruined his image to such an extent that his stand-alone single released the following year didn't even chart. Wonder - Shawn Mendes: A drastic 80% drop in sales, it failed to produce a true hit despite a Justin Bieber feature, and basically ended him as one of the core pop radio acts and streaming giants. All subsequent singles have flopped, even the excellent "When You're Gone". 100% agree with everything here. Even though I love some of the albums you mentioned (mainly Bionic and Man of the Woods), for one thing or another, they didn't click with the GP and totally changed the trajectory of these artists' careers. Their careers haven't been the same since. I guess it's too soon to say that Shawn won't recover from Wonder, but something tells me other guys like Harry, less vanilla than Shawn, will take his place as the new It Boy in pop music. I don't see Shawn ever having the success he had before Wonder.
CosTaSsSs Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Jennifer Lopez - Rebirth. The first single was a hit, Get Right. However the next one really doomed her career at that point (Hold You Down) and she stopped the promotion of the album. If the singles were chosen correctly, the album would be much bigger.
AnotherGagaFan Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Hot take: art pop flopped because of born this way. Born this way smashed because of the fame monster people seem to forget how much of a let down BTW was for a lot of people. It was a divisive album and a departure from a cleaner sound / radio friendly hits born this way
justinxx Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Leona Lewis's "Echo" album. She had the potential to be HUGE after Spirit if she followed it up with something poppier/trendier.
Why Try Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) . Edited October 14, 2022 by Why Try
Boysdontcry Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Romance - Camila Cabello. The direction for the album that was worked on throughout late 2018 - early 2019 was just scrapped (Taxi as the lead single) when some relationship contract was signed with Shawn Mendes (Liar & Shameless recorded last minute as the new lead singles). Camila just couldn't agree with her label on a single to promote. The label would send 1 song to pop radio, and then she'd chose to perform a completely different song on live tv. You could just tell she hated certain songs on that album & just the era as a whole. She's said she feels that album is cursed. And a lot of people turned on her in that era. Halsey got mad at her for apparently copying her & Ariana just decided to shun Camila. With the lack of a hit single, it just ruined her chances of moving into MPG territory. 'Anyone' should've been kept on the album and promoted as the lead single in my opinion.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 14, 2022 Author Posted October 14, 2022 Did anyone already mention Miley Cyrus and her Dead Petz already? Its literally the worst album probably of all-time and put the nail on the coffin of her career. Surviving post-Bangerz era wouldve been a challenge but since Dead Petz she has never been the same
Yog Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 18 hours ago, Cloröx said: I fear that Solar Power has destroyed Lorde's career Nah… I feel people will giver her second chance
suneclipse121 Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, AnotherGagaFan said: Hot take: art pop flopped because of born this way. Born this way smashed because of the fame monster people seem to forget how much of a let down BTW was for a lot of people. It was a divisive album and a departure from a cleaner sound / radio friendly hits born this way This is so accurate!! I think people look back at BTW with nostalgia but living through it I remember the era not being as great as TFM. It was a bit messy sonically and visually. You could tell she was losing her midas touch. Artpop and Joanne would solidify that further. And even now after Chromatica she still hasn’t hit that creative peak she used to have. Edited October 14, 2022 by suneclipse121
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 14, 2022 Author Posted October 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yog said: Nah… I feel people will giver her second chance She burned that bridge People trusted her so much after taking time off for four years after melodrama. 'L3' was one of the most anticipated pop albums in recent memory just because of how great pure heroine and melodrama were. For this NatGeo boredom to be the output was such a major let down for the majority of fans including me. Like Solar Power was a Witness level let down
Yog Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: She burned that bridge People trusted her so much after taking time off for four years after melodrama. 'L3' was one of the most anticipated pop albums in recent memory just because of how great pure heroine and melodrama were. For this NatGeo boredom to be the output was such a major let down for the majority of fans including me. Like Solar Power was a Witness level let down Sis, Lorde is an CRITICAL darling tho, her commercial appeal went out the door with Melodrama even if green light become an cute hit at the end of day, she just needs put out an banger album and she’ll back in everyone’s good side, I’m not counting her out just yet…
TROJAN Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 22 hours ago, KOMH said: Born This Way, as evidenced by its weeks (or lack thereof) in the top 10 and effect it had on the ensuing album(s). How can a career be over if the artist continues to sell millions of albums + singles and embarks on a sold-out stadium tour 11 years after supposedly “ending” their career? I asked you this a few days ago but you’ve yet to reply
Ice Cream Skies Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 8:58 PM, punisher said: masochism if that counts Sky Ferreira’s never had a career, she just released an album.
PoisonPill Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 10:05 AM, KatyPrismSpirit said: Inspired by this YouTube series I came across. It's called Trainwreckords by Todd In The Shadows. Although I don't agree Witness was a career ending album, it definitely held a longlasting negative impact on Katy's career. Are there any other instances of albums that did more damage than good on an artists career or overall image of an artist? You can write them down here. These insights are so spot on. He said it perfectly that there are pop stars who the public will always love and follow and those who will get dumped as soon as the hits dry up.
PoisonPill Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 7 hours ago, suneclipse121 said: This is so accurate!! I think people look back at BTW with nostalgia but living through it I remember the era not being as great as TFM. It was a bit messy sonically and visually. You could tell she was losing her midas touch. Artpop and Joanne would solidify that further. And even now after Chromatica she still hasn’t hit that creative peak she used to have. I now adore BTW... but this is a very accurate take of many Gaga fans felt back then. Everything during TF/TFM just clicked so seamlessly and organically, Gaga was the molten hot center of pop culture. Then with BTW, she suddenly didn't feel like "it" anymore... everything felt a bit more forced, the hooks didn't slap the same way, the "shock value" felt more cringy than shocking, people were rolling their eyes instead of hanging on her every move. In the end, BTW did not destroy her and she's created an incredible long-lasting career for herself. But it definitely threw her off the soaring rocket-ship she was riding.
PoisonPill Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 7 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: She burned that bridge People trusted her so much after taking time off for four years after melodrama. 'L3' was one of the most anticipated pop albums in recent memory just because of how great pure heroine and melodrama were. For this NatGeo boredom to be the output was such a major let down for the majority of fans including me. Like Solar Power was a Witness level let down Nah, Lorde still holds tons of respect and adoration. Solar Power was such a nonevent that it's like it never happened. If she comes out with a banger next, she'll be fine.
mystery Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 Impossible Princess (despite how incredible it is) seemed to almost destroy Kylie, thankfully she returned to obliterate everyone with Light Years and Fever.
Jay07 Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, TROJAN said: How can a career be over if the artist continues to sell millions of albums + singles and embarks on a sold-out stadium tour 11 years after supposedly “ending” their career? I asked you this a few days ago but you’ve yet to reply It ended her short lived reign as a huge popstar. Many legacy acts go on big tours (although a short 20 date tour with several dates struggling to sell out is not something to brag about), but Born this Way and ARTPOP destroyed her place as a relevant hitmaker evidenced by her lackluster performance ever since (movie driven hits notwithstanding). Get it now?
TROJAN Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jay07 said: It ended her short lived reign as a huge popstar. Many legacy acts go on big tours (although a short 20 date tour with several dates struggling to sell out is not something to brag about), but Born this Way and ARTPOP destroyed her place as a relevant hitmaker evidenced by her lackluster performance ever since (movie driven hits notwithstanding). Get it now? A career isn’t destroyed if an artist is still ranking in millions upon millions with their music career and landing huge movie roles. (Not to mention a sold-out stadium tour just this year) She’s a huge pop star and she always will be, everyone knows who she is and can still get huge hits if she wants to. (Shallow coming for 2B on Spotify alone) Edited October 15, 2022 by TROJAN
Jay07 Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, TROJAN said: A career isn’t destroyed if an artist is still ranking in millions upon millions with their music career and landing huge movie roles. (Not to mention a sold-out stadium tour just this year) She’s a huge pop star and she always will be, everyone knows who she is and can still get huge hits if she wants to. (Shallow coming for 2B on Spotify alone) Yeah she can get a cute lil front loaded hit by getting Ariana on board but her solo efforts are more like Stupid Love and 911. Thank you Bradley for Shallow though.
TROJAN Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 Just now, Jay07 said: Yeah she can get a cute lil front loaded hit by getting Ariana on board but her solo efforts are more like Stupid Love and 911. Thank you Bradley for Shallow though. So she can still sell out stadiums with “cute lil front loaded hits”?
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