GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 With Bros currently tanking, and more mainstream attempts at gay inclusion putting off viewers of films like Eternals and Lightyear, is it time for us to accept that gays are box office poison? People will cite exceptions, but it is rare for a gay themed movie to crack $100 million at the box office, and gay franchise fare always tends to under-perform expectations, or be the worst received, or lowest grossing in whatever franchise the gays are featured in. With the exception of Brokeback Mountain, most gay themed films struggle to crack $70 million even with excellent word of mouth. Is the gp more comfortable with lesbian movies? Everything Everywhere All At Once smashed, but why can't gay films smash as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dula Peep Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Yes Spoiler And it might be a great thing, gays being niche and not mainstream is way more fun Edited October 3, 2022 by Dula Peep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchanted0 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No Luca the most streamed movie of 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancehall Queen Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: more mainstream attempts at gay inclusion putting off viewers of films like Eternals and Lightyear, Eh. This seems like you’re giving a vocal minority too much power. No one really cares about Disney’s millionth first gay anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jynx Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Gays are box office poison but do better on streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: No Luca the most streamed movie of 2021 5 minutes ago, Jynx said: Gays are box office poison but do better on streaming. So no one shows up for the gays in cinemas, but will stream us for frih? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B GAGA Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: With Bros currently tanking, and more mainstream attempts at gay inclusion putting off viewers of films like Eternals and Lightyear, is it time for us to accept that gays are box office poison? People will cite exceptions, but it is rare for a gay themed movie to crack $100 million at the box office, and gay franchise fare always tends to under-perform expectations, or be the worst received, or lowest grossing in whatever franchise the gays are featured in. With the exception of Brokeback Mountain, most gay themed films struggle to crack $70 million even with excellent word of mouth. Is the gp more comfortable with lesbian movies? Everything Everywhere All At Once smashed, but why can't gay films smash as well? You answered yourself. An attempt, if they went all out including genuinely, it would do well. That's why streaming in its all out inclusion does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodflowers. Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Putting out a mediocre movie and marketing it as some important first time ever thing is a diservice to gay people. No one outside of gay activists would fall for capitalistic propaganda and would waste their money and time on unappealing films. Lightyears and Eternals were never appealing compared to other Disney/Marvel franchises, so them slapping gay characters to create interest in films with little interests by using gay identities is rather insulting, especially when you know they will try to use it to get money off of LGBT people and liberals and then blame gays when the movies still end up flopping because there was no buzz or interest in the movie to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 We had so many successful gay movies/shows, but currently they aren’t sticking cause they market them as the best thing since sliced bread. Show, don’t tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) No, badly marketed movies are box office poison. Eternals and Lightyear also have NOTHING to do with the LGBT community and are just an example of Disney trying to promote themselves as allies for the littlest thing possible. Edited October 3, 2022 by mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jynx Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 44 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: So no one shows up for the gays in cinemas, but will stream us for frih? Yes. Gays lack pure sales but get streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Oxy said: We had so many successful gay movies Can you name ten gay movies that smashed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, GraceRandolph said: Can you name ten gay movies that smashed? Brokeback mountain. Call me by your name. Blue is warmest colour. Carol. The Danish Girl. Transamerica. Love, Simon. Moonlight. The Birdcage. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Kinky Boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev8 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 It's obvious that they are, they are literal minorities? and not the kind of race or s*x, where it is still a pretty big percentage isn't only 20% of the world, lgbtq? Imagine the gay percentage of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: With the exception of Brokeback Mountain, most gay themed films struggle to crack $70 million even with excellent word of mouth. That’s because most of these are from small studios, Grace Randolph. — Hollywood needs to stop making “gay themed” movies and just make good movies with gay characters. The UK and Europe do this already. They have a lot of amazing shows and movies where I didn’t know the lead was gay until I started watching. Being gay shouldn’t be the selling point of the movie. And in the rare cases this happens in Hollywood (Eternals per example) the studio always demand for a pat in the back, acclaim and lgbt+ awards, which makes the inclusion feel very phony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForTanas Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No? Wasnt lightyear on disney plus? Also who is going to see a gay movie with RANDOM actors. The reason BB mountain smashed was because of the A-list talent! Its odd that people like you just want to give up because of a few flops. Do you know how many "straight" movies are box office poison?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyThruelen Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 unless the actors playing are straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, FightForTanas said: No? Wasnt lightyear on disney plus? Also who is going to see a gay movie with RANDOM actors. The reason BB mountain smashed was because of the A-list talent! Its odd that people like you just want to give up because of a few flops. Do you know how many "straight" movies are box office poison?? Lightyear was released theatrically. 1 hour ago, Blue Rose said: That’s because most of these are from small studios, Grace Randolph. Movies from small studios CAN break out you know? Look at all the A24 crossover hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovedaddy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) yes no gaga, no box office Edited October 3, 2022 by lovedaddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Oxy said: Brokeback mountain. Call me by your name. Blue is warmest colour. Carol. The Danish Girl. Transamerica. Love, Simon. Moonlight. The Birdcage. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Kinky Boots. Some of these movies made less than $20M at the box office though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The $100M figure is so stupid because no gay film where a same sex relationship is the main plot has received that level of push/budget to begin with. No precedent, no argument. These stories are given minimal budget and meant to be marketed for award show fodder because doing something as daring as kissing a man when you’re straight is supposed to be groundbreaking (see Harry Styles). The Billy movie was never going to do massive numbers but could’ve done better had Billy not been the lead and had the marketing not alienated the core demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, mxoonlight said: The $100M figure is so stupid because no gay film where a same sex relationship is the main plot has received that level of push/budget to begin with. No precedent, no argument. Bros had a 22 million dollar production budget and reported 30-40 million dollar promotional budget though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankGangsta Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Brokeback Mountain was a masterpiece because the actors were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay07 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Are you seriously claiming Lightyear and Eternals as gay movies because of 0.0001 seconds of gay inclusion? Bros tanked but that's because it sucked and it has an unlikeable lead. Gays just need better movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slik Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: Putting out a mediocre movie and marketing it as some important first time ever thing is a diservice to gay people. No one outside of gay activists would fall for capitalistic propaganda and would waste their money and time on unappealing films. Lightyears and Eternals were never appealing compared to other Disney/Marvel franchises, so them slapping gay characters to create interest in films with little interests by using gay identities is rather insulting, especially when you know they will try to use it to get money off of LGBT people and liberals and then blame gays when the movies still end up flopping because there was no buzz or interest in the movie to begin with. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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