Nano Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, gatito said: you both need to pick up a book, several ones in fact and we're not gonna do the homework for you You don't know ****, do you?
JonginBey Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 White gays do something useful challenge
Lost In Paradise Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, gatito said: you both need to pick up a book, several ones in fact and we're not gonna do the homework for you and you need to never quote me again. I'm a whole ass gay man and can speak on this topic based on my own experience. move along
Nano Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, hurricane326 said: The term "transgender" was not widely used in 1969 when Stonewall happened, so it's hard to discern who might've identified as trans then, versus gay men who were drag queens and/or felt they didn't conform to gender norms. The prime example is Marsha P Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_P._Johnson What about him? He identified as a man and didn't like being called Marsha when he was out of drag.
Nano Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, hurricane326 said: This section is relevant: In 1973, Johnson and Rivera were banned from participating in the gay pride parade by the gay and lesbian committee who were administering the event stating they "weren't gonna allow drag queens" at their marches claiming they were "giving them a bad name".[6] Their response was to march defiantly ahead of the parade. Dunno what this has to do with the topic at hand, but at least you're acknowledging that Johnson wasn't actually transgender. 2 minutes ago, hurricane326 said: Don't be obtuse dude. I'm not. I'm just voicing my disdain for SJWs' inclination to force a trans identity on historical figures that weren't actually trans.
Abracadabra Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 The users in here confusing drag queens with trans women then have the nerve to call others transphobic
lauvender Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 are we supposed to feel bad for him? he got what he deserved
Communion Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Cis gay men hating trans people, especially trans women, is the biggest example of cognitive dissonance. You cannot separate what fuels transphobia from the reality where it also fuels homophobia. Gays will never be "normal" in the eyes of cishets. You will never receive back the acceptance you crave from them until you have exclusive sexual attraction to WOMEN, which you will never have because you are gay. Cisheteropatriarchy means you cannot throw trans people under the bus for the benefit of cis gay people. The politics of gender and sexuality have always intertwined. There's a reason why increased violence towards trans women has correlated with increased violence towards aspects of culture largely associated with gay men. The people you're trying to win over by taking their side against trans people are literally showing up to drag bars with guns and weapons, trying to break down the doors, because they think your thigh high boots and lip sync to Carly Rae Jepsen means you want to hurt their child like they think trans people do. Biological essentialism just as much views homosexuality as an unnatural rejection of "natural" sexuality (heterosexuality) as it views transgenderism as the unnatural rejection of "natural" sex (cisgenderism). Edited September 29, 2022 by Communion
perfect blue Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Nano said: What about him? He identified as a man and didn't like being called Marsha when he was out of drag. The way they're desperate write us out of our own history
PoisonPill Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 When you're resorting to violent mob assault on elderly people to prove your point, it might be time to reconsider your approach.
Pop Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 What a disgusting old man. The girlies should have hit him harder.
PoisonPill Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 11:57 PM, gatito said: hateful people deserve nothing im glad he got his a$s whooped On 9/28/2022 at 2:03 AM, MonsterJohn said: He should've been beaten harder Someone expressing a different intellectual viewpoint - no matter how offensive or provocative - never justifies physical violence. Period. They could've made him look like an old fool by verbally dismantling him and sharing the video. Instead, he's now a victim and they look like deranged psychos.
Kiel D-01 Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 No sympathy for TERFs, sorry not sorry.
L.B GAGA Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 What an evil 74 yr old man. His full of hate and they may ne right that he was no founder, just rewritting history. Only privileged folks are this close minded and bigoted. Lgbtqi fought together andwe shall do so till the end.
Arrows Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Communion said: Gays will never be "normal" in the eyes of cishets. You will never receive back the acceptance you crave from them until you have exclusive sexual attraction to WOMEN, which you will never have because you are gay. With this mindset, then no, you will never feel normal Being accepted by the majority is absolutely not an impossibility, and if you go around thinking so then you’ll definitely never be or feel respected.
hector.adriel Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 9:44 PM, Abel Minaj said: Everyone involved is trash Literally this
Cruel Summer Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 This thread kind of reeks of weird transphobia. I see no evidence that the things he described happened as he described them, and as an anti-trans activist his credibility is already in extreme question. It’s gross and weird to try to excise a letter from the LGBT community just because it’s trendy right now to spread deranged hate and conspiracy theories about trans people.
gatito Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 2 hours ago, PoisonPill said: Someone expressing a different intellectual viewpoint - no matter how offensive or provocative - never justifies physical violence. Period. They could've made him look like an old fool by verbally dismantling him and sharing the video. Instead, he's now a victim and they look like deranged psychos. hate speech isn't 'a different intellectual viewpoint', it IS violence by itself this old fart fcked around and found out
LeMésTragique Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 T activists would sink so low as to assault elderly people
yonsé Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 this thread is so unhinged. are y'all good?
PoisonPill Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, gatito said: hate speech isn't 'a different intellectual viewpoint', it IS violence by itself this old fart fcked around and found out You don't get to just label opinions you don't like as "violence" He views may be offensive to some but they do not encourage or call for violence.
gatito Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, PoisonPill said: You don't get to just label opinions you don't like as "violence" He views may be offensive to some but they do not encourage or call for violence. so you really don't think erasing and denying trans people of their basic rights and their very existence is a call for violence? in the year of our lord 2022 i really don't know what to tell you but his views aren't just offensive, they're dangerous and harmful
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