Damien M Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 This is NOT TRUE AT ALL. Possibly in certain parts of North America, bc they have less political power than evangelicals (and were historically "othered") In most parts of the world they're responsible for some of the most backward societies/laws to ever exist
manwhore Posted September 28, 2022 Author Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) On 9/26/2022 at 11:17 AM, XXXO said: I believe its due to the fact that Catholicism allows for a more open and personal interpretation of Christianity. Americans are always "bible says this bible says that", have an extremely high church attendance... like they are more traditionalist It also helps the fact that Catholic countries like Spain and Portugal are actually more agnostic than religious italy Spain France Brazil L-America Allot of these Catholic majority countries have the reputation of macho culture but the reality is men from these countries are far more sophisticated then the Protestants would like you to believe. It’s due to the Catholic culture. It’s a culture thing. When Gaga and Madonna tell you Italians do it better it’s because of Catholicism. Edited September 28, 2022 by manwhore
Communion Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Since the OP is from the US (from what I know), and American Jews are largely European in ancestry, Judaism would objectively be the most progressive religion that's "Western". Not to erase the antisemitism Americans Jews face though; I started calling myself a "culturally Christian atheist" after reading a progressive Jewish commentator's thread on twitter about how often atheists in America forget the forced normativity of Christian culture. IE: No matter how much I don't believe in the theology of Christianity as an atheist, I can't undo the impact of growing up culturally Christian in a Christian country. Polling on this is actually interesting. For all the claims about Islam, American Catholics often poll as more conservative than American Muslims. This poll for example on feelings about abortion: Edited September 29, 2022 by Communion
Ricardo1993 Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Unfortunately the white catholics I met have been horrible. Even though they weren't racist towards me, they were extremely homophobic and you can sense the judgment from them. I have a few white friends (who are all gay) and their parents are Catholic but do not accept their homosexuality. One of my friends from high school was raised catholic and when I went to his house to hang out, his parents were very unwelcoming towards me. Keep in mind, I've always been visibly gay and flamboyant. They were nice to my friend's other POC (black and asian) friends because they were straight but they treated me like **** because I "talked" gay and was very flamboyant. I ended up finding out that I was no longer invited to my friends house because his parents thought I was influencing my friend to becoming "gay". It was kind of ghastly since my friend told me the other things they said about me. I won't say all of the vile things they said about gay people but I will say that his parents dont mind their son making diverse friends because as far as they know "straight" black people and other straight people of color are still "god's children" who dont go out of their way to spit on Jesus like the way gay people like myself do. It was sad for me because I was born to a catholic family and some of them are a bit conservative but they were never as treacherous as my friends parents. I also really liked my friend because we loved pokemon and star trek but we sort of distanced ourselves when I read some facebook messages years ago of him posting articles of anti-homosexuality.
Edit0rz Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Just a reminder that the Catholic church is run by pedophiles and child murderers. The Pope's have continually covered up wrong doings of priest and shielded them from prosecution. The Catholic church has likely killed more people that any any other religion through time. They murdered hundreds of native children if not thousands that were placed in their care. The Catholic religion is evil and anyone that follows the church is an accessory to evil.
HANZ94 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 I’m Mexican and this country that is mostly catholic and from my personal experience I definitely agree I’ve seen plenty of Catholic families accepting their gay sons/cousins, brothers or uncles and some of those gay men are actually involved in religious festivities and are very welcomed there I will forever be thankful for not being born in a country that is Islamic or Protestant Catholics are more “free” than other religions you don’t even have to go to church every ******* Sunday to be considered a good Catholic
A.R.L Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) On 9/25/2022 at 8:42 PM, youreyesgocold said: The priest who checked into my Roman Catholic high school every thursday told me I would burn in hell for being gay so I’d like to say (based on my personal experience nnnn) that no, the members of the church are just as closed minded as always. The religion itself I have grown to disassociate from the politics and agenda of the church, so (at least from my friends and family) I have never felt any otherness or judgement from the church community. Edited October 2, 2022 by A.R.L
justinxx Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) i'm a former catholic... i think, at least in the US, Catholicism is the most "global" of the religions. Catholics that immigrated from all over the world come together at Catholic churches, whereas Protestant, Orthodox, Pentecostal, etc. churches tend to be segregated based off custom/geography (race). So that's probably why Catholics are more receptive to different people... however, I think calling them "progressive" is a huge leap. Edited October 2, 2022 by justinxx
Mat.91 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, GodControl said: I grew up Catholic... They were progressive in terms of economic issues and immigration, which was good, but they were super regressive when it came to gender and sexuality... I am from Italy and I agree with this take I must tell things are slowly changing though. I mean, we've made MASSIVE progress throughout the last 15 years. I am not talking about legislation, it's how regular people approach LGBTQ's issues that's changed so much (in a positive way) Transition and Surrogacy (and LGBTQ's people adopting kids to a lesser degree) are the main issue left. But just 15 years ago, gay issues were full taboo here and now there's a majority supporting gay rights and the young generation have it way better than we did. I am also conviced Millenial and Gen Z will change legislation, meaning equal marriage rights and adoption for single and gay people, in the next decade (when the impending disgraceful government has failed). Edited October 2, 2022 by Mat.91
manwhore Posted October 5, 2022 Author Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) On 9/28/2022 at 9:09 PM, Communion said: Since the OP is from the US (from what I know), and American Jews are largely European in ancestry, Judaism would objectively be the most progressive religion that's "Western". Not to erase the antisemitism Americans Jews face though; I started calling myself a "culturally Christian atheist" after reading a progressive Jewish commentator's thread on twitter about how often atheists in America forget the forced normativity of Christian culture. IE: No matter how much I don't believe in the theology of Christianity as an atheist, I can't undo the impact of growing up culturally Christian in a Christian country. Polling on this is actually interesting. For all the claims about Islam, American Catholics often poll as more conservative than American Muslims. This poll for example on feelings about abortion: American Muslims are very progressive and I’ve always known this. i like the whole culturally catholic atheist thing. I vibe with that lol. I found my tribe jk. Edited October 5, 2022 by manwhore
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