discussion Why are Catholics the most progressive western religion?

[Komet]

A somewhat polished turd is still a turd

[gustavothehuman]

54 minutes ago, Element said:

As a person who was raised in Catholicism, I’d say that a lot of the churchgoers are very casual about their faith in general. The worship is not as intense or cult-like as some other Christian denominations. A lot of Catholic universities are pretty liberal too from what I’ve observed. You have a lot more freedom — however, that doesn’t mean there’s not judgmental/bigoted people throughout. Maybe they just hide it better.

Basically this (at least here in the South of Brazil anyway) 

[manwhore]

36 minutes ago, Phantom said:

It is not too late to hide this thread! I won't tell anyone.

As a Protestant would want.  Good to see the ugly bigoted founding fathers succeeded in planting anti catholic seeds in your conscious. (Assuming you’re in the states)  Church Jail! 10 Hail Marys!

Edited September 25, 2022 by manwhore

[Specter]

Just now, manwhore said:

As a Protestant would want.  Good to see the ugly bigoted foundering fathers of my country succeeded in planting anti catholic seeds in your conscious. Church Jail! 10 Hail Marys!

Beloved, if I identify as anything religion wise it's certainly not a Protestant

 

I just wanted to give you a chance to hide this thread because when the receipts are brought out, you won't be able to deflect as much to Protestants as if anyone is defending that, either! 

[Domination]

Lmao, non-Fundamentalist protestants are wayyyyy more progressive and don’t have blood on their hands like the catholic church does.

[youreyesgocold]

The priest who checked into my Roman Catholic high school every thursday told me I would burn in hell for being gay so I’d like to say (based on my personal experience nnnn) that no, the members of the church are just as closed minded as always. The religion itself I have grown to disassociate from the politics and agenda of the church, so (at least from my friends and family) I have never felt any otherness or judgement from the church community. 

[Pheromosa]

Why do you people make posts like these on ATRL?

Aren't you worried about showing everyone how ignorant you are? 

[Bloodflowers.]

It's true! Look how progressive Catholic countries such as Ireland and Croatia is in terms of LGBT rights! Poor Ortodox Christians, Evangelists, Mormons, Jahovah witness etc 

 

 

 

[Revolution]

There are no Western religions. All religions were founded in the Middle East and India 

[Tropez]

2 hours ago, cockatoo said:

This is simply not true. They're probably the most regressive and backward denomination of Christianity 

 

Anglican churches are definitely more progressive (though obviously not perfect).

Not true. Not when Mormon and US evangelicals exist. 

[byzantium]

Well catholicism is not a religion.  Christianity is.  

But from my experience, some catholic churches promote critical thinking and questioning the world.  They seem to teach that engaging with critical thought will bring you closer to the faith.  A lot of protestant faits teach the opposite.  

[brenda-walsh]

the bar is pretty low

[manwhore]

3 hours ago, Domination said:

Lmao, non-Fundamentalist protestants are wayyyyy more progressive and don’t have blood on their hands like the catholic church does.

Non fundy Protestants are essentially the worst form of  neoliberalism/Predatory capitalism. The most inbred. Most violent and criminal.  Most racist.  Etc
 

 

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Christians as a whole make up about two-thirds of the inmate population in the facilities where they work. Protestants are seen, on average, as comprising 51% of the inmate population, Catholics 15% 

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Edited September 25, 2022 by manwhore

[John Slayne]

maybe it's different in the US but have you ever met European Catholics? they're the absolute worst, I grew in a majority Catholic country and the bigotry is off the charts and gets worse with years 

 

[Domination]

1 hour ago, manwhore said:

Non fundy Protestants are essentially the worst form of  neoliberalism/Predatory capitalism. The most inbred. Most violent and criminal.  Most racist.  Etc
 

 

Source

 

 

 

Tell that to the Nordic countries, you weirdo. Funny you try to bring up inmate population (prison industrial complex who?) but are totally ignoring the role Catholicism played in the murder of millions of people.

[manwhore]

45 minutes ago, Domination said:

Tell that to the Nordic countries, you weirdo. Funny you try to bring up inmate population (prison industrial complex who?) but are totally ignoring the role Catholicism played in the murder of millions of people.

I’m talking about people that are practicing the faith or were brought up on the faith, not the church leaders. I’ve made that clear weirdo. 

Edited September 25, 2022 by manwhore

[Buffy]

I became a Christian in 2017. I’ve learned that there are many churches in the world, but many people who identify as Christian is due to cultural upbringing. It’s just a label to them. Many haven’t actually read the Bible or even practice the faith. 
 

Not all churches are biblically sound either. There are some disguised as churches but in reality are cults. Every church should have a website with a “statement of beliefs” page. That’s where you’ll see what they really believe in. I attend a church that’s truly rooted in God’s Word with a loving community with people who are serious about their relationship with God and don’t act self-righteous.  

 

A real Christian church that follows God command of loving your neighbor is supposed to be a welcoming place for all walks of life. That’s the whole reason Jesus came. He didn’t come for the rich, a specific race, or people who had it all together. He came for the sick and the broken of all races. He is God. He created humanity. No one is lesser or greater than anyone. Even as God he came into the flesh to serve others. He is an impartial God who is not about comparisons.

Edited September 26, 2022 by Buffy

[Kamil24]

I found that too, all the catholic schools have an LGBT flag where I live. John Paul 2 also did a great job with naming saints from all ethnicities, to ensure non-white people felt included. Catholics love praying to saints, and I think having them from all ethnicities has made them more tolerant.

[Listentoyourheart]

The US in general is very backwards because of religion. For most countries in Europe (with a few exceptions) religion is not a priority, it doesn't cross their mind at all and they don't base their views on it. And in that regard, I would say protestants are more progressive than Catholics and Orthodox.

[Axolotl]

As an ex-catholic, it absolutely is not progressive. Those who aren't actually practicing the religion are more decent people than those who do.

[Jude]

Don't be fooled. They just wanna cater to anyone to get more $$$. 

[Archetype]

The US version of Roman Catholicism is borderline being agnostic/non-religious.  Skepticism is part of the culture and you’re always asked to treat everyone with respect and kindness.  It’s very much about cultural events, Italian holidays, food, community, volunteering, etc.  When I told my parents I was an atheist growing up, they only asked for me to get confirmed and then I’d never need to attend service again.  I didn’t really mind because most of the requirements were volunteering-related (gardening, helping at the food pantry, donating clothes, etc) and fell in line with my volunteering requirements for school.

 

That being said, organized religion is a cancer to society.  

[cockatoo]

17 hours ago, Tropez said:

Not true. Not when Mormon and US evangelicals exist. 

I forget those weird cults exist tbh

[Oceania]

18 hours ago, Revolution said:

There are no Western religions. All religions were founded in the Middle East and India 

True, and Christians actually used to be tolerant towards homosexuality until the Byzantine emperor Justinian decided to criminalize it out of nowhere. 

[XXXO]

I believe its due to the fact that Catholicism allows for a more open and personal interpretation of Christianity. Americans are always "bible says this bible says that", have an extremely high church attendance... like they are more traditionalist

 

It also helps the fact that Catholic countries like Spain and Portugal are actually more agnostic than religious