Armani? Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: Here are just some of the other countless singles she didn't send to Pop that went top 5 or topped Urban radio (some also topped Rhythmic radio, too) Partition Flawless Love On Top 7/11 To be fair I dont see those songs doing well on Pop She was supposed to send Pretty Hurts but someone at Parkwood is tone deaf so they sent it to Urban
Lose My Breath Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Whatever the case, it doesn't really need pop radio, it can go top 10 without pop, but it definitely does need some radio support
Beyle Street Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Armani? said: ? 7/11 had good streaming Partition's was ok in its chartrun I don't remember exactly how 7/11 was doing on Spotify but it wasn't on the rise like Cuff It currently is, hence "none of them had the streaming presence it has now". 7/11 is a smash for what it is now but back then, it wasn't seen as anything more than a cute club hit that was more of a video presence than Spotify.
Shelter Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Lose My Breath said: Whatever the case, it doesn't really need pop radio, it can go top 10 without pop, but it definitely does need some radio support Pop would eat it up though. It’s just a stupid move. Why restrict it?
Lovett Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, QueenofCopyPaste said: Dual release apparently with "CHURCH GIRL". Impacts Urban next week. What the hell. "CHURCH GIRL" is impacting Rhythmic, not Urban.
Armani? Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beyle Street said: I don't remember exactly how 7/11 was doing on Spotify but it wasn't on the rise like Cuff It currently is, hence "none of them had the streaming presence it has now". 7/11 is a smash for what it is now but back then, it wasn't seen as anything more than a cute club hit that was more of a video presence than Spotify. 7/11 spent 12 Weeks Top 20 on US Spotify It was a streaming hit back then
Beyle Street Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Armani? said: 7/11 spent 12 Weeks Top 20 on US Spotify It was a streaming hit back then I wish the data was easily available but I see nothing but Kworb for pre-2017
Lose My Breath Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) The reason 7/11 did so well on BB is because of it's streaming component. It was huge on YouTube. Had she debuted the video at the start of the tracking week, it would've been well into the top 10 Edited September 27, 2022 by Lose My Breath
Armani? Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Beyle Street said: I wish the data was easily available but I see nothing but Kworb for pre-2017 It's there for weekly positions Drunk In Love was Top 20 for 20 Weeks
*-ChriZ-* Posted September 27, 2022 Author Posted September 27, 2022 Great that it's at least being sent somewhere. But seeing Parkwood react is literally as if ur watching turtles race against each other
Shelter Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beyle Street said: I wish the data was easily available but I see nothing but Kworb for pre-2017 Also has like 500 million streams. Biggest from the album lol
Lose My Breath Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Shelter said: Also has like 500 million streams. Biggest from the album lol And is 4x platinum
Beyle Street Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Shelter said: Also has like 500 million streams. Biggest from the album lol This I know. And that it's 5x plat eligible. I just meant back in late 2014-early 2015 when it was peaking. I remember it smashing more on video than Spotify, which I guess the video helped keep it afloat on the latter.
yesmine Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 10:47 AM, PoisonPill said: How is it supposed to do that when it hasn't been sent to radio in favor of radio poison Church Girl? The industry and gp can only do so much when the artist herself engages in self-sabotage... Church Girl has been sent to pop??? Oh hell no. It's an excellent song but won't stand a chance on radio...
Lose My Breath Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, yesmine said: Church Girl has been sent to pop??? Oh hell no. It's an excellent song but won't stand a chance on radio... It's being sent to Rhythmic the same day Cuff It is being sent to urban
State of Grace. Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Parkwood are so.... I thought Church Girl was supposed to be Urban/Rhythmic single, how about yall send this one to Pop?
Draper. Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Lose My Breath said: The reason 7/11 did so well on BB is because of it's streaming component. It was huge on YouTube. Had she debuted the video at the start of the tracking week, it would've been well into the top 10 That was not the problem. The problem was Billboard changed the rules that week to state a song’s views on YouTube would only count once the song was available for sales. The video was available before the release on iTunes because the songs were already leaked and everybody had heard them. That #13 peak was Billboard’s fault, for once.
Machete Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, MrLovett said: Pretty important. Germany (among with other European countries) don't use TTH, instead using their own "Hot Hits" playlist. The Germany one in particular is MASSIVE! BMS peaked #39 on German Spotify, with CUFF IT #55 there currently; I think it's passing
Draper. Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, MrLovett said: "Drunk in Love" was only sent to Urban, which didn't stop it from being a big smash. Everyone was complaining that it hadn't been sent to radio, now it has and you're still complaining. It’s been like that since the beginning of the era… It’s never enough
Blue Rose Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 CUFF IT got 2 adds at Pop. This song is more powerful than JayZ’s wife
Shelter Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: CUFF IT got 2 adds at Pop. This song is more powerful than JayZ’s wife
Blue Rose Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Draper. said: That was not the problem. The problem was Billboard changed the rules that week to state a song’s views on YouTube would only count once the song was available for sales. The video was available before the release on iTunes because the songs were already leaked and everybody had heard them. That #13 peak was Billboard’s fault, for once. This is not how I remember it. She dropped 7/11 on a Saturday exclusively on Facebook. That was the only place to view. I remember the 7/11 thread and @Ressti making us all new avatars from the video. Then we started gagging at how the video was going viral. If I remember correctly, it ended up gathering over 19M views in 24 hours. All those views were lost because Facebook didn’t count and we also lost 2 precious days of tracking. The song didn’t leak. Short snippets of 7/11 and Ring Off were made available on some official platform that one of us downloaded after using their local library card. 7/11 became available on youtube (on her secondary account, not Vevo) and on sale when the More EP dropped the following week. The only person to blame is Bey, not Billboard
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