discussion Men Have Fewer Friends Than Ever, & It’s Harming Their Health

[Grumpy Cat]

4 minutes ago, wish said:

It's a joke babe he deserved it for delusionally thirsting over straight men

ah ok, sorry!

[Pikachoo]

6 close friends sounds like a lot? I have only 3 friends but I can depend on for support, but they're all girls. I wish I had a male friend; gay or not.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Pikachoo

[Jude]

Yup, that's what toxic masculinity does to us. 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Jude

[Grumpy Cat]

1 minute ago, Pikachoo said:

6 close friends sounds like a lot? I have 3 close friends I can depend on for support, but they're all girls. I wish I had a male friend; gay or not.

Pika, you're not insulting us. You are stating facts. I am a girl actually. Older atrlers know that lol.

 

Now please dont essay me but stream Hold me closer

 

[Pikachoo]

1 minute ago, Grumpy Cat said:

Pika, you're not insulting us. You are stating facts. I am a girl actually. Older atrlers know that lol.

 

Now please dont essay me but stream Hold me closer

 

I like Hold Me Closer it's a fun song. And I love my friends, just wish I had a male friendship.

[Pop Life]

What are they counting as "close friends?" Because most people have that many "good" friends, but 6 people they'd share all their hopes and fears with and do anything for? That seems excessive no matter the gender or time period

Edited August 27, 2022 by Pop Life

[M.R.]

I have 4 close friends who I can call anytime but they are all girls.
 

Unfortunately what I realized this year is that I don’t think I can have close friendship with another gay guy; in January I started to develop feelings for my best friend of 12 years and after talking to him and ending our friendship, I realized that I can’t be so close to another gay especially when your friend is someone who you had everything that constitutes a relationship except for being intimate. Hope that will change in the future and I will find someone I can be just friends with/change this mindset that gays can’t be friends. 

[Grumpy Cat]

20 minutes ago, Pikachoo said:

I like Hold Me Closer it's a fun song. And I love my friends, just wish I had a male friendship.

Same but I'm not sure but I might be fully sure we want a male friendship for that one specific reason.

[Archetype]

1 hour ago, Aristide said:

Yeah traditional masculinity tends to hinder men's abilities to be in touch with their emotions, but that doesn't mean Leftists should vilify it or falsely refer to it as "toxic" though, either, right? Let’s face it, yeah they're vilifying masculinity, but that doesn't mean they're doing this because they want to help men. It's most likely the opposite.

People who lack emotional intelligence are toxic, doesn’t matter the gender.  Masculinity, as a traditional philosophy, includes lacking emotional intelligence.  If this wasn’t the case, we wouldn’t be glorifying war heroes criminals throughout historical texts and many of the world’s problems would have easily been avoided.  Men need to learn, from a young age, to communicate their feelings with others and to not suppress their emotions.  Men need to learn how to cope in healthy, safe ways.  It is okay to be strong and/or weak, angry and/or sad, happy and/or silly, none of these adjectives need to be life-long identifiers for anyone.  

[GentleEarthquake]

28 minutes ago, Archetype said:

People who lack emotional intelligence are toxic, doesn’t matter the gender.  Masculinity, as a traditional philosophy, includes lacking emotional intelligence.  If this wasn’t the case, we wouldn’t be glorifying war heroes criminals throughout historical texts and many of the world’s problems would have easily been avoided.  Men need to learn, from a young age, to communicate their feelings with others and to not suppress their emotions.  Men need to learn how to cope in healthy, safe ways.  It is okay to be strong and/or weak, angry and/or sad, happy and/or silly, none of these adjectives need to be life-long identifiers for anyone.  

[GentleEarthquake]

I have 0 close friends atm and a few friends at uni, I just know if I was straight i'd have more friends, especially male friends, but oh well, guess i'm doomed

[cockatoo]

Honestly I've noticed a lot of people are just not prepared to make any effort to make or maintain friendships. I'm the main reason I'm still in touch with most of my friends. Some people are happy enough to make time to meet up but not to send the first message or organise anything. And in my experience women are much better "connectors" than men in that sense.

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Aristide said:

Yeah traditional masculinity tends to hinder men's abilities to be in touch with their emotions, but that doesn't mean Leftists should vilify it or falsely refer to it as "toxic" though, either, right?

How is "hindering men's abilities to be in touch with their emotions" not toxic? 

[ZORBIT]

2 hours ago, Aristide said:

Honestly, life is lonely. Might as well learn to be your own best friend if you haven't already.

SPILL, not many people realize that & then they slip into depression because of "loneliness" when that's purely a temporary state of mind

A good foundation of Emotional Intelligence & Social Skills can attract a lot of acquaintances at least so it's sad most modern day people lack in both

[Beyondslay]

I 'm blessed to have 3 other black gay male friends, we go to events and have monthly cocktail hours. 

[Aristide]

3 minutes ago, Headlock said:

How is "hindering men's abilities to be in touch with their emotions" not toxic? 

It is toxic but that doesn't mean we should describe masculinity as toxic because masculinity is much broader than that and essentially means "how men are," so describing masculinity as toxic would be like describing men in general as toxic and that's obviously harmful to society.

[Jotham]

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52% of people 18-29 live with their parents

I wonder what this data looks like if divided into smaller age groups. I imagine that the vast majority of people in this data who don't live with their parents are 18-22.

[americanlife]

It’s because of that phone

[Grumpy Cat]

57 minutes ago, GentleEarthquake said:

I have 0 close friends atm and a few friends at uni, I just know if I was straight i'd have more friends, especially male friends, but oh well, guess i'm doomed

I'll be ur friend if u want to. nothing explicit pls tho

[Headlock]

1 hour ago, Aristide said:

It is toxic but that doesn't mean we should describe masculinity as toxic because masculinity is much broader than that and essentially means "how men are," so describing masculinity as toxic would be like describing men in general as toxic and that's obviously harmful to society.

“Toxic masculinity” is a type of masculinity, it’s not saying all masculinity is toxic 

[Damien M]

Most (straight) men are not emotionally intelligent, lack perspective on a ton of things and are generally a chore to be around. Also unwilling to face their demons and work on themselves.

 

Queer men aren’t perfect but have the ability to do self work and reflect, something the former are mostly unwilling to do. 

[Grumpy Cat]

2 hours ago, Damien M said:

Most (straight) men are not emotionally intelligent, lack perspective on a ton of things and are generally a chore to be around. Also unwilling to face their demons and work on themselves.

 

Queer men aren’t perfect but have the ability to do self work and reflect, something the former are mostly unwilling to do. 

No, I disagree. You are describing Andew Tate and his incel fandom.

 

Other straight guys are decent. Let's not categorize.

[Gesamtkunstwerk]

I don't want to be an internet bad boomer, but I think the digital age really allowed many men to isolate themselves in front of the computer, thus their ability to grow friendships and relationships outside has become increasingly worse and has just spiraled down to this point.

[Grumpy Cat]

9 minutes ago, Gesamtkunstwerk said:

I don't want to be an internet bad boomer, but I think the digital age really allowed many men to isolate themselves in front of the computer, thus their ability to grow friendships and relationships outside has become increasingly worse and has just spiraled down to this point.

facts

 

my dad told me how when he turned 18, he and his buddies would go downtown and just flirt openly with girls of their age. And it was super easy  to find a gf or bf regardless if you were thin, thick, tall, small, bald. It didn't matter. You could easily find someone for you.

 

Now, all the guys you see in your place are either staring down or they are doing some bs on their phones. and ofc, a phone has to be a size of a baby head and they have to have those giant headphones because- big broosss  bro

[Johnny Jacobs]

That's sad tbh.. 

 

I don't know what I would've done without my friends.