celeb news Beyoncé removes Kelis sample from ENERGY

[orange22]

Oh I was under the impression Kelis was listed as a writer but I see now it was just the performer credit. Not sure why Bey couldn’t just add her name though? Lots of artists will put their kids/family as writers on songs just so they can collect royalties later on. I thought Bey might have done that here but if it was just the performance credit I see why Miss Kelis dragged a bit. Her beef should be with Pharrell but still.

Edited August 2, 2022 by orange22

[ShouldersSideways]

Just now, EnoughSaid said:

See my version still has the sample too so maybe it needs to be updated not sure. But the main thing is Kelis was never credited to begin with I don’t know why some are choosing to say Beyoncé gave her a credit. Kelis was never credited on Milkshake so it’s not her fault but her tirade began with Pharrell stealing wiring credits from her. 

Yeah, I don't know where everyone got the idea Bey benevolently gave Kelis a credit because that's not how publishing works. She can't just decide Kelis deserves a credit on a song Kelis didn't write or produce. 

 

My issue with Kelis through all this is the random satanism accusations and dragging Bey when it's not her fault in the first place. This whole thing has been stupid from the beginning and it's tired.

[EriKills]

The song sounding the same  the credit to Milkshake always seemed like such a reach to begin with, glad the credit has been erased

[ShouldersSideways]

1 minute ago, orange22 said:

Oh I was under the impression Kelis was listed as a writer but I see now it was just the performer credit. Not sure why Bey couldn’t just add her name though? Lots of artists will put their kids/family as writers on songs just so they can collect royalties later on. I thought Bey might have done that here but if it was just the performance credit I see why Miss Kelis dragged a bit. Her beef should be with Pharrell but still.

Because you can add whoever you want to your own song, but you can't retroactively add someone as a writer to a an existing one that was legally cleared for you to sample.

[Pheromosa]

8 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Hopefully Beyoncé stans can stop harassing Kelis and talk about her husband's death now that this issue is solved.

 

Keri still gets dragged.

Kelis is going to get tormented for the next decade at least.

 

 

[orange22]

1 minute ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Because you can add whoever you want to your own song, but you can't retroactively add someone as a writer to a an existing one that was legally cleared for you to sample.

I thought that was what happened. Like Bey gave her a % on Energy to make up for the sample situation. I see now.

[EnoughSaid]

4 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Yeah, I don't know where everyone got the idea Bey benevolently gave Kelis a credit because that's not how publishing works. She can't just decide Kelis deserves a credit on a song Kelis didn't write or produce. 

 

My issue with Kelis through all this is the random satanism accusations and dragging Bey when it's not her fault in the first place. This whole thing has been stupid from the beginning and it's tired.

Kelis went too far she’s clearly never liked B. But Twitter is filled with fake news mess, so far the song is still the same. However idk why there’s all these memes about her removing Kelis credit that never existed to begin with 

[Stankonia]

1 minute ago, Kings. said:

Not really. She just wanted Bey to kiss her ass and that’s why she was so insistent on receiving a call. Bey didn’t owe her a damn thing because she didn’t write OR produce the song to begin with. She’s mad at Pharrell and Chad Hugo and needs to stay mad at them because that’s where her issue lies. Actually, she should be mad at herself for singing an apparently shitty contract, maybe she would owe the rights to her music had she thoroughly read over her contract

Yeah, let's shade Kelis for signing a shitty contract with a man she thought was her friend and getting all her publishing stolen when she was just a teenager.

 

Not every artist had a rich daddy/manager to look out for their best interest in the industry, even despite their group mates. Beyoncé stans should be more sympathetic to the girls who didn't have it as easy as their fave instead of being hypocrites. It's all about black women empowerement until it's not in Beyoncé's favor.

[est. in 90s]

38 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said:

This whole era has been a PR nightmare.  She's lucky that the MSM is still by her side out of fear of the Hive, otherwise the album wouldn't have been so critically acclaimed.

No, a real PR nightmare was Adele's 30. This is just background noise in the grand scheme of things, but nothing in recent memory tops all the scandals that followed that particular album cycle that was not only abandoned but riddled with disaster headlines about how thousands were abandoned in Vegas from a canceled Adele show hours before showtime. 

[Stankonia]

The way this whole thing turned me into an OBH. Truly opened my eyes with how vile and hypocritical a lot of her stans are.

[blaggot]

1 hour ago, Tripthelight said:

ya'll...the song sounds exactly the same to me, though. I think the only thing Bey removed was Kelis' name from the credits (which was a favor to her in the first place)   

 

I love pretty Bey.  She'd rather remove the interpolation altogether than talk to that woman on the phone. Now the album and song get even more promotion. 

 

[Body Talk]

31 minutes ago, BnPac said:

She did not and she can't, she was however added as a performer in the credits. I suppose as a way to show homage because Robin S. sure wasn't. 

 

Anyway she did not want to be sampled, Bey has removed the sample. End of the story. 

B is not the reason why she's not credited on the original. 

Robin S has the same credit - a performer credit. Not the same as a writing credit and it requires no permission because the performer doesn't have ownership of a song's publishing. It says:

 

"CONTAINS ELEMENTS OF “SHOW ME LOVE” WRITTEN BY GEORGE ALLEN, FRED CRAIG MCFARLANE AND PERFORMED BY ROBIN S."

[EdgeofTeeth]

Not even trying to hate, but it seems really disrespectful not to at least ask or notify the artist whose work you're using. Apparently Kevin Aviance had no idea his song was being sampled for the album either.

Edited August 2, 2022 by EdgeofTeeth

[PoisonPill]

3 hours ago, MrLovett said:

It was a minor drum beat that was sampled. This has now been removed from the version on all streaming services. The sample was so minor that it's not even noticeable, which is the biggest kii of this whole situation.

I think the sample is the "la la la la la" at 1:40

[Body Talk]

13 minutes ago, EdgeofTeeth said:

Not even trying to hate, but it seems really disrespectful not to at least ask or notify the artist whose work you're using. Apparently Kevin Aviance had no idea his song was being sampled for the album either.

The writers and producers have to approve it and are paid. 

[Lovett]

12 minutes ago, EdgeofTeeth said:

Not even trying to hate, but it seems really disrespectful not to at least ask or notify the artist whose work you're using. Apparently Kevin Aviance had no idea his song was being sampled for the album either.

That's not how sampling works. The lawyers reach out to those who are the writers, producers and own the masters. Neither Kelis nor Kevin fall into that category. Wanting Beyoncé to personally reach out to each and every person is not only illogical but plain ridiculous. Additionally, Kevin is thrilled at his inclusion in the project, meanwhile Kelis used the opportunity to spew nothing but hatred fuelled by her own insecurities.

 

It appears her most recent fan in this thread is following that trend, with their vile and hypocritical behaviour.

[Konril]

LOL, and now none for you Kelis. 

[EdgeofTeeth]

6 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

That's not how sampling works. The lawyers reach out to those who are the writers, producers and own the masters. Neither Kelis nor Kevin fall into that category. Wanting Beyoncé to personally reach out to each and every person is not only illogical but plain ridiculous. Additionally, Kevin is thrilled at his inclusion in the project, meanwhile Kelis used the opportunity to spew nothing but hatred fuelled by her own insecurities.

I didn't know they didn't have writer/producer credits on the songs. Thanks for clarifying, I'm not versed on the legality around sampling lmao

[Stankonia]

1 minute ago, MrLovett said:

That's not how sampling works. The lawyers reach out to those who are the writers, producers and own the masters. Neither Kelis nor Kevin fall into that category. Wanting Beyoncé to personally reach out to each and every person is not only illogical but plain ridiculous. Additionally, Kevin is thrilled at his inclusion in the project, meanwhile Kelis used the opportunity to spew nothing but hatred fuelled by her own insecurities.

 

It appears her most recent fan in this thread is following that trend, with their vile and hypocritical behaviour.

stfu

 

Artists call other artists or have their representation notify them that they want to sample their songs all the time even if they don't own the rights to their songs.

It's called common courtesy and it's what someone who has made a business out of black women enpowerement should've done out of respect for a fellow black woman who got scammed by her producers.

 

But now Pharrell isn't seeing any money from that mediocre song so kuddos to Beyoncé I guess, Kelis kinda won!

 

 

By the way you should edit out your failed shade from the OP since it was established that you were loud and wrong.

[Jagger]

What in the world is with artists just changing their albums after they have been released  it's absolute cringe behavior 

 

like if you can't write lyrics or produce the music at least have a backbone  how many more revisions you think she's gonna make? Maybe if we create enough outrage on Twitter she will just delete the whole thing!! Bc any type of criticism = change the song now huh?

[BrokenMachine]

Before making any speculations, don't you think this MIIIGHT be agreed by Bey and Kelis ? Like, maybe Bey's team called, Kelis told them she didn't want the credit and just removed it 

[Lovett]

Continuing that vile and hypocritical behaviour, I see.

[BrokenMachine]

3 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

stfu

 

Artists call other artists or have their representation notify them that they want to sample their songs all the time even if they don't own the rights to their songs.

It's called common courtesy and it's what someone who has made a business out of black women enpowerement should've done out of respect for a fellow black woman who got scammed by her producers.

 

But now Pharrell isn't seeing any money from that mediocre song so kuddos to Beyoncé I guess, Kelis kinda won!

 

 

By the way you should edit out your failed shade from the OP since it was established that you were loud and wrong.

Well, Kelis said she didn't want the sample to be there. The sample is already removed. What else do you want them to do now? What a random meltdown 

[Alt Facts]

Honestly great press for the album. Keep it coming Kel Kel

[Lovett]

4 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

Well, Kelis said she didn't want the sample to be there. The sample is already removed. What else do you want them to do now? What a random meltdown