A Bomb Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Just now, Miss Show Business said: Biden outperformed AOC in her own district. If Biden's "ballot poison", then the alternative would be much worse. I stand corrected. Deflection to avoid arguing in good faith. Like I said IGNORANT.
Miss Show Business Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, A Bomb said: I stand corrected. Deflection to avoid arguing in good faith. Like I said IGNORANT. Where did I deflect? You claimed Biden was "ballot poison", yet he easily outperformed those to the left of him. He also had no problems winning by good margins in the "blue wall" states. Only person here arguing in bad faith is the one using insults and condescension. If you can't argue your point without being borderline offensive, just shut the f*** up. Seriously.
A Bomb Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: Where did I deflect? You claimed Biden was "ballot poison", yet he easily outperformed those to the left of him. He also had no problems winning by good margins in the "blue wall" states. Only person here arguing in bad faith is the one using insults and condescension. If you can't argue your point without being borderline offensive, just shut the f*** up. Seriously. What part of he won at the cost of Congressional races, because of his refusal of branding Republicans as the Trump party did you not understand? Wow, very impressive he brought out Republicans in a safe blue district to vote against a woman of color. Im sure you are very proud of that As far as I could tell AOC was not a contender for the Democratic nominee in 2020. As far as I know many younger Democrats would actually engage in partisan messaging so the top of the ballot’s success would be felt by Congressional races. As far as I know any other presidential candidate would not publicly admit they do not care about the growing Latino vote. This is the idiotic **** you, support AND defend. Your weak, and awful policies aren’t even the biggest insult. It’s the fact you defend, and willingly support sheer incompetence.
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, A Bomb said: As far as I know any other presidential candidate would not publicly admit they do not care about the growing Latino vote. This is the idiotic **** you, support AND defend. Your weak, and awful policies aren’t even the biggest insult. It’s the fact you defend, and willingly support sheer incompetence. Right, like ... imagine stanning that - even Trump isn't stupid enough to publicly admit that
Miss Show Business Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, A Bomb said: What part of he won at the cost of Congressional races, because of his refusal of branding Republicans as the Trump party did you not understand? Wow, very impressive he brought out Republicans in a safe blue district to vote against a woman of color. Im sure you are very proud of that As far as I could tell AOC was not a contender for the Democratic nominee in 2020. As far as I know many younger Democrats would actually engage in partisan messaging so the top of the ballot’s success would be felt by Congressional races. As far as I know any other presidential candidate would not publicly admit they do not care about the growing Latino vote. This is the idiotic **** you, support AND defend. Your weak, and awful policies aren’t even the biggest insult. It’s the fact you defend, and willingly support sheer incompetence. Lmfao. More ad hominem attacks, zero points made. It's no wonder more people aren't "progressive". Everybody probably f***ing hates you.
Kassi Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Miss Show Business said: Where did I deflect? You claimed Biden was "ballot poison", yet he easily outperformed those to the left of him. He also had no problems winning by good margins in the "blue wall" states. Only person here arguing in bad faith is the one using insults and condescension. If you can't argue your point without being borderline offensive, just shut the f*** up. Seriously. I wouldn’t sweat it. Certain posters on this forum who identify with the far left have just about some of the worst political insights I’ve ever read. The boring and most likely correct explanation for Democrats' (ultimately modest) downballot losses is that not a lot of Republicans showed up in 2018 but they all did for Trump in 2020. Most of the lost seats were places where the Democrats had miraculously won in 2018 and couldn't win again with high GOP turnout. All of the losses were first termers aside from Collin Peterson, who was a dead man walking anyway being from the most Republican district in Minnesota, despite signaling as a conservative Democrat. They were in tough districts vulnerable to the kind of activation Trump brought to his base. But let the lefty gorls tell it and they’ll claim it's because Dems didn't run on pure socialism in places like rural KY.
FreeXone Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 4 hours ago, DirtyPony87 said: They played a big role, yes. Clinton’s campaign was a disastrous, mismanaged shítshow from start to finish. And the DNC practically sabotaging Bernie’s campaign does play a huge role into what happened in 2016. Here we are in 2022 with a Democrat-led presidency, House, and Senate and look around. How did voting save us this time? The Democrats are incompetent and useless, and, yes, they are mostly to blame for what happened in 2016, along with the usual suspects. But the point is that Democrats aren’t going to save us - now or ever - they’ve only failed us. For decades. It’s time to stop trying to pander to those who only want to go backwards and push forward. Bernie is the extreme we needed. I think Trump honestly was a little worried by him. He knew hillary woumd be a walk in the park. The fact that all it took was EMAILS to bring her down shows how much of a ******* idiot move it was for the dnc to push her. They said bernie was too radical and literally everything he wanted they have been now trying to push. Everything he said was POSSIBLE
Gui Blackout Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 @Horizon Flame you should probably inform in the OP that the protection passed even with this opposition, cause I don't think some people here got it...
fountain Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 It’s okay tho because some atrlers said gay rights are not next. You just have to believe sisters! /s
Headlock Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 The America @frenchyisback wants, GOP controlled house
Beyonnaise Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Maddy Cawthorn voting no He's so bitter that we saw those videos
DirtyPony87 Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 5 hours ago, FreeXone said: Bernie is the extreme we needed. I think Trump honestly was a little worried by him. He knew hillary woumd be a walk in the park. The fact that all it took was EMAILS to bring her down shows how much of a ******* idiot move it was for the dnc to push her. They said bernie was too radical and literally everything he wanted they have been now trying to push. Everything he said was POSSIBLE Hillary stumbled from one idiocy to the next, with the emails being the main topic, but there were countless of other gaffs showing how stupid she was during the entire campaign and how poorly it was ran. At the start of the primary, Bernie was the one candidate that voters preferred over Trump by a wider margin than any other Democrat. 3 hours ago, fountain said: It’s okay tho because some atrlers said gay rights are not next. You just have to believe sisters! /s This. I was called hysterical for calling this kind of thing in another thread months ago, but this is what’s coming. And much more. These people never stop.
Communion Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Miss Show Business said: Where did I deflect? You claimed Biden was "ballot poison" He was poison because he literally encouraged ticket splitting and defended Republicans. Surely at one point a moment of reflection is needed given how horribly Biden has failed. Can you honestly look at the horrific levels of inequality in America and earnestly go "well of course all of this would just change if we got two more senators"? Vote, of course, but please have some common sense and awareness of the world and corruption around you.
spree Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 do ya'll think Jill Biden would convince her husband not to run if she saw him significantly deteriorate in the coming year?
dabunique Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Kassi said: I wouldn’t sweat it. Certain posters on this forum who identify with the far left have just about some of the worst political insights I’ve ever read. The boring and most likely correct explanation for Democrats' (ultimately modest) downballot losses is that not a lot of Republicans showed up in 2018 but they all did for Trump in 2020. Most of the lost seats were places where the Democrats had miraculously won in 2018 and couldn't win again with high GOP turnout. All of the losses were first termers aside from Collin Peterson, who was a dead man walking anyway being from the most Republican district in Minnesota, despite signaling as a conservative Democrat. They were in tough districts vulnerable to the kind of activation Trump brought to his base. But let the lefty gorls tell it and they’ll claim it's because Dems didn't run on pure socialism in places like rural KY. well in my district, FL-27, Dems lost because they had a trash representative Dems only won because Ileana Ros-Letihnen (or however u spell it) retired and Hillary did great in this district in 2016 Shalala was backed by da Dems of Coral Gables and won, woman doesn't even kno spanish but wants to represent da majority of da Spanish speaking section of Miami (Little Havana ) and Miami Beach (North Beach), da voters came out in 2020 and sent her packing also good to kno my girl Maria Elvira was one of da 47 republicans who voted for this as well as other Miami Republicans (Diaz Balart & Jimenez)
Bloodflowers. Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Genie in a Bottle said: MTE. 47/204 Republicans voting yes on this is actually quite shocking. That’s almost 25% Then again, I wouldn’t be shocked if 25% of Republicans are stuck in the closet themselves ? Average Republican supports same sex marriage so senate and house should reflect that
ClashAndBurn Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Miss Show Business said: It's the Democrats fault? Yes. The Democrats didn't HAVE to nominate a loser like Hillary Clinton to be their presidential candidate, but they actively made the choice to promote someone who was uniquely unlikeable and unelectable, possibly matched only by Kamala Harris (guess we'll find out how badly she loses soon enough in either 2024 or 2028!)
i spit on haters Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Protocol said: High end Washington DC male escorts, please expose all the fuckers who voted for this. I KNOW more than a couple of these have got to be gay in the sheets conservative Christian in the streets. 17 hours ago, FreeXone said: Yep and MANY like the trans girls too. EXPOSE THEM Oh, there are many, I'm sure. But doing so would very well put their safety at risks and it's just not worth it. These politicians know people in high places. Not only could they end up dead or "missing" for exposing closeted politicians, their family members and close friends could also be put at risk. And I'm sure NDAs are involved, too.
i spit on haters Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 3 hours ago, spree said: do ya'll think Jill Biden would convince her husband not to run if she saw him significantly deteriorate in the coming year? No, because that would also put a end to her own self-interests.
A Bomb Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Miss Show Business said: Lmfao. More ad hominem attacks, zero points made. It's no wonder more people aren't "progressive". Everybody probably f***ing hates you. Really grasping at anything at this point, huh. I personally would be embarrassed to lash out like this, but you already waste your time defending political malpractice. Not much lower you can stoop when you’re morals are already nonexistent.
Miss Show Business Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, A Bomb said: Really grasping at anything at this point, huh. I personally would be embarrassed to lash out like this, but you already waste your time defending political malpractice. Not much lower you can stoop when you’re morals are already nonexistent. You should be embarassed that you cannot discuss politics with others without calling them names like a schoolyard bully. I mean, what goes through your head? Do you honestly think I'm going to agree with you when you're calling me stupid, ignorant, and so on? You'll convince nobody of your position with your attitude. This is a huge reason why I stopped voting for "progressive" politicians — their base is absolutely insufferable. The only other people I encounter this from are from far right extremists. Yikes! Speaking of which, I always find it hilarious that you and others here save your worst criticisms for Democrats — despite the fact Republicans are the ones who are responsible for all of the backsliding we're seeing. But, whatever — you see, I sometimes don't even argue with y'all because my time would be better spent doing literally anything else.
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