discussion Shinzo Abe Dead: Killer Held Grudge Against Affiliated Church that Bankrupted Mother

[saucy]

4 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

 

 

oh wow, surreal to see an assassination like this get carried out. I hope the people who witnessed it are not too scarred. 

[Harrier]

Crazy. This is pretty unprecedented in Japan

[Sergi91]

Omg 

Did they catch who did it?

[Velvet Night]

What a terribly sad moment for Japan. Violence is never the answer to different political beliefs.

[Chemist]

 

[MotoPapi]

Wow RIP

 

they caught the guy who shot him 

[Jormungand]

4 hours ago, TROPICUM said:

Why an ex-PM tho? Wouldn't it make more sense to go after the current one?

 

3 hours ago, GipJo said:

But he is not in power so at least this has way smaller impact to the likes of Kennedy assassination.

Shinzo holds considerable influence in his party and is the longest serving prime minister in postwar Japan. That's an impressive feat when you consider the fact that Japan has a new PM almost every year.

 

If you had to place Abe on a power scale in his party, he'd be second only to the current PM, effectively he's akin to a shadow PM. 

 

[Chemist]

Not a home made gun

 

 

[popmusicisdead]

yeah my Japanese friend just told me it was a homemade gun.

makes sense because it's near impossible to get guns in Japan.

[Cloröx]

 

 

[flower moon]

oh wow he actually died
wonder what the motivation was

[AlanRickman1946]

Well we can rule China out. There's no way they were ever involved in the creation of Manchurian Candidate or anything. They seem to think Abe's murder will push Japan towards the right. Apparently Abe's goal was to end Japan's neutrality which does not benefit China.

 

 

Lu Hao, a research fellow at the Institute of Japanese Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Friday:

 

Abe's assassination could stimulate the extreme Japanese right wing to promote populist, xenophobic and even extreme political goals.

 

Similar to Japan's domestic politics, Abe's successors and supporters are expected to continue to promote Abe's external policy in Indo-Pacific and active participation in the QUAD mechanism, and accelerate the pace of NATO's entry in Asia, bringing more risks to the geopolitics of Northeast Asia

 

 

[Jormungand]

15 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said:

Well we can rule China out. There's no way they were ever involved in the creation of Manchurian Candidate or anything. They seem to think Abe's murder will push Japan towards the right. Apparently Abe's goal was to end Japan's neutrality which does not benefit China.

 

 

Lu Hao, a research fellow at the Institute of Japanese Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Friday:

 

Abe's assassination could stimulate the extreme Japanese right wing to promote populist, xenophobic and even extreme political goals.

 

Similar to Japan's domestic politics, Abe's successors and supporters are expected to continue to promote Abe's external policy in Indo-Pacific and active participation in the QUAD mechanism, and accelerate the pace of NATO's entry in Asia, bringing more risks to the geopolitics of Northeast Asia

 

 

So the assassin has effectively turned Shinzo Abe into a martyr in other words. 

[Harrier]

Yeah Abe's death will for sure push Japanese politics to the right, which given the already tragic geopolitics of the region is a terrible outcome  

Japan is basically a 1 party state so if the LDP becomes more conservative & reactionary there's nothing that can be done  

[Gwendolyn]

I'm so shocked about this, especially a country like Japan. So unexpected, r.i.p to him and sending his family love 

[AlanRickman1946]

1 hour ago, AlanRickman1946 said:

Well we can rule China out. There's no way they were ever involved in the creation of Manchurian Candidate or anything. They seem to think Abe's murder will push Japan towards the right. Apparently Abe's goal was to end Japan's neutrality which does not benefit China.

 

 

Lu Hao, a research fellow at the Institute of Japanese Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Friday:

 

Abe's assassination could stimulate the extreme Japanese right wing to promote populist, xenophobic and even extreme political goals.

 

Similar to Japan's domestic politics, Abe's successors and supporters are expected to continue to promote Abe's external policy in Indo-Pacific and active participation in the QUAD mechanism, and accelerate the pace of NATO's entry in Asia, bringing more risks to the geopolitics of Northeast Asia

 

 

 

57 minutes ago, Jormungand said:

So the assassin has effectively turned Shinzo Abe into a martyr in other words. 

 

48 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Yeah Abe's death will for sure push Japanese politics to the right, which given the already tragic geopolitics of the region is a terrible outcome  

Japan is basically a 1 party state so if the SDP becomes more conservative & reactionary there's nothing that can be done  

Yeah pretty much. .

 

The Japanese Peace Clause meant that Japan could not work with the US in contingencies outside Japan, Korea, South China Sea, Taiwan. But Abe changed that in 2015. 

 

His death will just push them further to the right. Which is frustrating for leftists who are angry about the increasing wealth gap

[Jormungand]

52 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Japan is basically a 1 party state so if the SDP becomes more conservative & reactionary there's nothing that can be done  

There are 7 factions in the LDP. The opposition is not as unified and will be further divided with Shinzo Abe's death. Japan's geopolitical future is looking very grim at this current stage. 

[A Bomb]

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Abe was a conservative whom political commentators widely described as a right-wing Japanese nationalist.^{[5][6][7][8][9]} He was a member of Nippon Kaigi and held negationist views on Japanese history,^[10] including denying the role of government coercion in the recruitment of comfort women during World War II,^[11] a position which created tension with neighboring South Korea.

Rot 

[Cloudy]

This can't be good for Japan, inb the conservatives get new power because of this

[A Bomb]

1 hour ago, Harrier said:

Yeah Abe's death will for sure push Japanese politics to the right, which given the already tragic geopolitics of the region is a terrible outcome  

Japan is basically a 1 party state so if the LDP becomes more conservative & reactionary there's nothing that can be done  

Their current prime minister is seen as a "centrist", but is affiliated with the far-right, ultraconservative, ultranationalist, and reactionary Nippon Kaigi.

fascism? again?

Edited July 8, 2022 by A Bomb

[AlanRickman1946]

39 minutes ago, Cloudy said:

This can't be good for Japan, inb the conservatives get new power because of this

 

39 minutes ago, A Bomb said:

Their current prime minister is seen as a "centrist", but is affiliated with the far-right, ultraconservative, ultranationalist, and reactionary Nippon Kaigi.

fascism? again?

Maybe the war could have been avoided if Zelensky had been forced to pledge that his country would not join NATO, or had been forced to grant a high degree of autonomy to Luhansk and Donetsk in the east,” Abe noted, according to ‘The Economist’.

 

https://see.news/former-japanese-pm-zelenskys-decisions-led-to-outbreak-of-war-in-ukraine/

 

If Ukraine were a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO),” he said, “Russia would not have invaded. Because no country is directly allied with Ukraine, none will fight alongside it.

 

https://japan-forward.com/interview-shinzo-abe-no-country-will-fight-alongside-a-defenseless-japan/

 

 

 

 

[AlanRickman1946]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/abe-questions-us-over-taiwan-after-ukraine-fiasco-by-the-west-101645940884761.html

Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe today asked the US to ditch its strategic ambiguity over Taiwan and make it clear that it would defend Taipei from a Chinese invasion

 

 

@Gui Blackouti feel bad for Taiwan but US defending it against invasion is going to cause huge supply chain issues.

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by AlanRickman1946

[Gui Blackout]

I will always respect how hard he stood against the CCP, and his support of Hong Kong and Taiwan. 

 

An immense tragedy for Japan. May his memory be a blessing.

[Genius1111]

 

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