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of course the f4ggots on here would be defending ******* islam :bibliahh: 

Islam is pro abortion now :bibliahh:

I mean you can tell the percentage of Muslims in the US is ridiculous by how ******* CLUELESS yall are

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2 minutes ago, XXXO said:

of course the f4ggots on here would be defending ******* islam :bibliahh: 

Islam is pro abortion now :bibliahh:

I mean you can tell the percentage of Muslims in the US is ridiculous by how ******* CLUELESS yall are

Who is defending Islam? We are just saying this tweet is inaccurate and tacky when Christian fundamentalists are the ones causing problems in the US right now, not Muslims. 

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12 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said:

That wasn't her point at all, why are you purposely being daft? Why would an American like Bette - who knows by common sense that Muslims make up only a tiny minority of the US population and make up an even smaller percentage of lawmakers - imply that Islam was responsible for Roe v Wade getting repealed? :rip: 

 

Her point was clearly that 6 out of 9 SCOTUS judges have conservative beliefs, similar to some conservative Muslims. That was all. Everyone but you understands this. :psyduck:

The point she’s making is just so stupid though? We can criticize Islamic countries for their policies without saying SCOTUS is the American “Taliban” which implies only the Taliban/brown people have these fundamentalist views.

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11 hours ago, brazil said:

ATRLers missing the point as usual. the issue people have with this is that it was a decision exclusively made by American men. There was nothing foreign to it. In fact Saudi Arabia for example, one of the most conservative Muslim majority country allows abortion in the following cases "Risk to woman's life, to her health*, rape, or fetal impairment", meaning it allows abortion in more cases than a lot of US states after Roe.

Yes, people are acting dense about why people have a problem with Bette’s post. 

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y'all are so dense. she's not saying that muslims are responsible for this, she's saying that SCOTUS are becoming like the Taliban

 

now if you want to criticize that then fine but y'all must be purposefully misunderstanding her because it's not that hard to get

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3 minutes ago, favorite crime said:

y'all are so dense. she's not saying that muslims are responsible for this, she's saying that SCOTUS are becoming like the Taliban

 

now if you want to criticize that then fine but y'all must be purposefully misunderstanding her because it's not that hard to get

this lmao

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I kinda get what she was trying to say but it came off poorly. 

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4 minutes ago, favorite crime said:

y'all are so dense. she's not saying that muslims are responsible for this, she's saying that SCOTUS are becoming like the Taliban

 

now if you want to criticize that then fine but y'all must be purposefully misunderstanding her because it's not that hard to get

This

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1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

Who is defending Islam? We are just saying this tweet is inaccurate and tacky when Christian fundamentalists are the ones causing problems in the US right now, not Muslims. 

You missed the whole point of that tweet then. :rip: she's comparing the US to the taliban because thats what the country is turning into by taking away basic human rights for women, the same way they do in most Muslim countries. She's not blaming Muslims for the SCOTUS ruling like... 

 

Its so shocking to me how the left can't ******* see how problematic and barbaric that religion is. It's absolutely contradictory being a leftie and supporting Islam. No wonder the left is in shambles in Western countries...

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1 minute ago, XXXO said:

You missed the whole point of that tweet then. :rip: she's comparing the US to the taliban because thats what the country is turning into by taking away basic human rights for women, the same way they do in most Muslim countries. She's not blaming Muslims for the SCOTUS ruling like... 

 

Its so shocking to me how the left can't ******* see how problematic and barbaric that religion is. It's absolutely contradictory being a leftie and supporting Islam. No wonder the left is in shambles in Western countries...

The left doesn’t support Islam, but we also don’t want to demonize a huge portion of the world’s population. Many Muslim people are progressive or centrist. Would you be okay with people criticizing all Americans as barbaric because the US dropped an atomic bomb, or invaded Iraq? 

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Abrahamic religions are the pits. Sorry but one would imagine people here have a little more self respect.

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31 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Many Muslim people are progressive or centrist. 

no they are NOT. Progressive Muslims are a tiny, insignificant minority. Western values and Islam are an oxymoron, you understand that?

Again thats why Americans should stfu, you clearly are not around many Muslims on a daily basis. 

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4 minutes ago, XXXO said:

no they are NOT. Progressive Muslims are a tiny, insignificant minority. Western values and Islam are an oxymoron, you understand that?

Again thats why Americans should stfu, you clearly are not around many Muslims on a daily basis. 

An insignificant minority among a group of 2 billion people is still millions of people. :rip:

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All the right-wing ATRLers breaking their heels to defend another clueless white woman :hoetenks:

Posted
57 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Many Muslim people are progressive or centrist. 

concepts like centrists or progressive cant really be used within the realm of islam. you are simply either a muslim or not. Islam is a socio-political ideology that encompasses every aspect of a muslim's life. theoretically there is no such thing as a "progressive muslim" its mostly just a liberal with a muslim background. nothing that is secular is Islamic so the concept of being a progressive or centrist muslim doesn't exist. 

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1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

concepts like centrists or progressive cant really be used within the realm of islam. you are simply either a muslim or not. Islam is a socio-political ideology that encompasses every aspect of a muslim's life. theoretically there is no such thing as a "progressive muslim" its mostly just a liberal with a muslim background. nothing that is secular is Islamic so the concept of being a progressive or centrist muslim doesn't exist. 

That’s ridiculous. Progressives exist in all religions (even if they are unfortunately not common enough). You guys are literally demonizing a quarter of the world’s population. 

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1 hour ago, favorite crime said:

y'all are so dense. she's not saying that muslims are responsible for this, she's saying that SCOTUS are becoming like the Taliban

 

now if you want to criticize that then fine but y'all must be purposefully misunderstanding her because it's not that hard to get

the saddest part is I dont think they do it on purpose :bibliahh: 

 

16 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

An insignificant minority among a group of 2 billion people is still millions of people. :rip:

Again no. You wont find "moderate muslims" in a country that will kill you for ******* blasphemy :bibliahh: you will have a HARD time finding them in megacities like London or Paris, let alone ******* SA or Iran :bibliahh: omg yall so clueless its actually sad

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3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

That’s ridiculous. Progressives exist in all religions (even if they are unfortunately not common enough). You guys are literally demonizing a quarter of the world’s population. 

you need to understand that Islam is not like any other religion. Just have a quick google search and educate yourself pls. 

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Just now, GraceRandolph said:

That’s ridiculous. Progressives exist in all religions (even if they are unfortunately not common enough). You guys are literally demonizing a quarter of the world’s population. 

Its not ridiculous its simply just not a real concept... What could be progressive about Islam when Islam isn't a loose concept of ideas like liberalism or socialism? Islam is a collection of laws and a lifestyle thats already clear - its not loose principles like secular law, therefore everything that contradicts Islam is simply not islam. The term "progressive" muslims is literally just a result of colonization and globalization lol. These "progressive" muslims that advocate for gay rights and LGBT for example, directly contradict islam as islam is so clear on the topic that homosexuality is immoral and a transgression. The same "progressive" muslims are also those who also advocate for feminism within the muslim society when it's already clear in the Quran that everything that isnt islam or a islamic principle is bad and evil, its considered "kuffar". Muslims who combine secular rulings with Islam simply just cant accept that their own morals contradict their religion.  

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6 minutes ago, XXXO said:

 

the saddest part is I dont think they do it on purpose :bibliahh: 

 

Again no. You wont find "moderate muslims" in a country that will kill you for ******* blasphemy :bibliahh: you will have a HARD time finding them in megacities like London or Paris, let alone ******* SA or Iran :bibliahh: omg yall so clueless its actually sad

 

Just now, XXXO said:

 

you need to understand that Islam is not like any other religion. Just have a quick google search and educate yourself pls. 

You are literally painting entire countries are barbaric and irredeemable. There are people in those countries who are oppressed and wishing to escape. This is not hopeful. Of course we should criticize Islam, but although I criticize Israel I would not support antisemitism. 

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2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Its not ridiculous its simply just not a real concept... What could be progressive about Islam when Islam isn't a loose concept of ideas like liberalism or socialism? Islam is a collection of laws and a lifestyle thats already clear - its not loose principles like secular law, therefore everything that contradicts Islam is simply not islam. The term "progressive" muslims is literally just a result of colonization and globalization lol. These "progressive" muslims that advocate for gay rights and LGBT for example, directly contradict islam as islam is so clear on the topic that homosexuality is immoral and a transgression. The same "progressive" muslims are also those who also advocate for feminism within the muslim society when it's already clear in the Quran that everything that isnt islam or a islamic principle is bad and evil, its considered "kuffar". Muslims who combine secular rulings with Islam simply just cant accept that their own morals contradict their religion.  

Those Muslims you criticize are going to actually reform their religion. Let’s stop the xenophobia and Islamophobia. 

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6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Those Muslims you criticize are going to actually reform their religion. Let’s stop the xenophobia and Islamophobia. 

please explain how is my statement xenophobic or islamophobic :rip: i literally just explained to you that nothing that is secular can be islamic, which is true. also no muslim in a muslim majority country wants a "reform" of their utmost HOLIEST book, are you kidding me? only cherry picking muslims in the west want a "reform of Islam" (which isnt possible btw because Islam is already preserved and clear) -  because like i said, they cant accept the fact that Islam contradicts their own liberal views, which is directly a result of colonialism. The west and the east are simply inherently different. If you cant accept that fact thats mostly your problem

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, XXXO said:

You missed the whole point of that tweet then. :rip: she's comparing the US to the taliban because thats what the country is turning into

You don't need to reach to comparisons within Islam when America is a Christian nation, founded on Christianity, and in which its founding was a mass genocide of people on the basis that such was part of its religious purpose and manifest destiny, an inherently European and Christian barbarism. 

 

It's so funny how people allegedly from countries and communities where Islam is this big central negative force in their life always lash out at progressives "for centering themselves"and "erasing the voices of people brave enough to leave Islam" and "ex-Muslims" yet this thread has been nothing but the same people doing just that re: abortion and the reality of America.

 

This conversation isn't about Islam. Nothing in America is about Islam. America in its foundation is a Christofascist theocracy and ex-Muslims or people who fashion themselves as "speaking to the truth on Islam" need to stop centering themselves in conversations about those who experience oppression within America's theocracy due to the rule of Christianity in the government. 

 

"Well I grew up in a Muslim country and Islam is objectively worse than Christianity" is such a tone-deaf and egomanical comment to repeatedly try and insert into discussions of people fearing for their lives under Christianity. :rip:

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Posted
3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

also no muslim in a muslim majority country wants a "reform" of their utmost HOLIEST book, are you kidding me? 

This is simply not true. You are being extremely reductive and only viewing Muslim people as Muslim and nothing else. 

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