charts discussion Spotify: Beyoncé's "BREAK MY SOUL" #42 (+1) 1.66M WW, #35 (-6) 447k US [Day 63]

[Ratviolo]

9 minutes ago, Hurem said:

What's up with the freefall in the US? Did it lose playlist reach or something?

As of July 22 (the most recent data available), the song still had over 165M playlist reach so I doubt it plummeted in the matter of a couple of days

[TayRianaPH]

With all die respect, this is so heavily radio-payola’d.

It’s charting would be a mess if not for the radio deal

 

enough with this Yonce don’t care about charting teas haha

 

[swissman]

46 minutes ago, TayRianaPH said:

With all die respect, this is so heavily radio-payola’d.

It’s charting would be a mess if not for the radio deal

 

enough with this Yonce don’t care about charting teas haha

 

but doesn't it have no radio deals?

 

and if this does prove she cares about charting, why wouldn't she have done literally anything more to increase the song's charting power? the most she's done is release an acapella/instrumental about 5 weeks after the official release.

 

wouldn't she also just have released on a friday? I don't think we can say "this song is doing well on radio therefore Beyoncé cares for the charts and it is payola". that's pure conjecture.

[Easymoney]

11 hours ago, TayRianaPH said:

With all die respect, this is so heavily radio-payola’d.

It’s charting would be a mess if not for the radio deal

 

enough with this Yonce don’t care about charting teas haha

 

In that case why wouldn’t she had done that with all the songs she has released over the years that failed to chart in the top 10. It’s been a while since she has had a stable top 10 song. 
 

she has yet to properly promote this song yet. No performances, no tweets, barely an instagram post and like someone else said, this song was released in the middle of the week and not when most songs are released to maximize its it’s first week potential. 
 

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by Easymoney

[Pepo]

11 hours ago, TayRianaPH said:

With all die respect, this is so heavily radio-payola’d.

It’s charting would be a mess if not for the radio deal

 

enough with this Yonce don’t care about charting teas haha

 

If it were payola'd, the song would boast massive playlisting, and that's not the case with BMS 

 

[zzmyth]

Streaming numbers are atrocious.

 

It's been out for just a month and it's out of the Top50 and below 1.5M daily.

 

She has an album out in 2 days... I mean... where's the hype¿?

[Delirious]

The song just doesn't hit quite right.

 

It's 6-7/10 and that's ok but it isn't enough nowerdays

[slw84]

11 hours ago, Pepo said:

If it were payola'd, the song would boast massive playlisting, and that's not the case with BMS 

 

That's conflating the point they were headed towards. The radio payola is real in general. I don't know why people think these songs are being played for free.

The song is on 165M playlists which is alot. Not sure it has to be on every single playlist (massive) but what it's on is enough so that playlisting wouldn't be an issue.

 

All this is unnecessary because it will get a 2nd wind next week upon album release and then weeks after we'll see if that was what it took to keep things afloat.

 

[Shelter]

3 minutes ago, slw84 said:

That's conflating the point they were headed towards. The radio payola is real in general. I don't know why people think these songs are being played for free.

The song is on 165M playlists which is alot. Not sure it has to be on every single playlist (massive) but what it's on is enough so that playlisting wouldn't be an issue.

 

All this is unnecessary because it will get a 2nd wind next week upon album release and then weeks after we'll see if that was what it took to keep things afloat.

 

Did you even look at the radio updates? If she was getting payola she would be getting huge updates and they are not. It’s peaking there. 

[Hurem]

20 minutes ago, Shelter said:

Did you even look at the radio updates? If she was getting payola she would be getting huge updates and they are not. It’s peaking there. 

It's gotten to top 5 within less than a month  If you think there wasn't a strong (financial) push behind the song, you're delusional-

[Beyonce-Minaj]

On 7/27/2022 at 10:14 AM, Hurem said:

It's gotten to top 5 within less than a month  If you think there wasn't a strong (financial) push behind the song, you're delusional-

This could be from a fusion of pure sales and radio play, so it's still logical to factor out a "financial push". What goal would payola even serve Bey when she'd only lose money in the process and NOT profit, since she is majorly independent? Payola is NOT profitable to the artist, as it solely generates HYPE in the hopes of enticing buyers/streamers. If I'm mistaken, please correct me.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Beyonce-Minaj

[Hurem]

24 minutes ago, Beyonce-Minaj said:

This could be from a fusion of pure sales and radio play, so it's still logical to factor out a "financial push". What goal would payola even serve Bey when she'd only lose money in the process and NOT profit, since she is majorly independent? Payola is NOT profitable to the artist, as it solely generates HYPE in the hopes of enticing buyers/streamers. If I'm mistaken, please correct me.

If payola was not profitable it wouldn't exist. There's obviously something good that comes as a result of radio pushing your song really hard. I believe mostly do it just for the bragging rights.

 

And let's not forget how impactful radio is to Hot 100, Break My Soul wouldn't be coming for the top spot if it wasn't for radio.

[Lovett]

6 minutes ago, Hurem said:

And let's not forget how impactful radio is to Hot 100, Break My Soul wouldn't be coming for the top spot if it wasn't for radio.

It's on track to be #1 on sales and streaming this week, but not radio.

[BnPac]

There was no payola involved, it will not become true just because you keep saying it. 

 

We saw girls over 30s taking a radio deal first week or first day and yet the songs fell after it was done. 

[Beyonce-Minaj]

On 8/2/2022 at 7:24 AM, Hurem said:

If payola was not profitable it wouldn't exist. There's obviously something good that comes as a result of radio pushing your song really hard. I believe mostly do it just for the bragging rights.

 

And let's not forget how impactful radio is to Hot 100, Break My Soul wouldn't be coming for the top spot if it wasn't for radio.

It's profitable for the record label if the song hits in every avenue, not so much for the artist though, hence the loaning-scamming catch-22 nature of the music industry. Artists make money from ads, brand deals and concert tickets. Payola is a risk and doesn't work majority of the time, which is why virtually every musician in mainstream is deceptively rich and in debt. Payola could be profitable, if the forced push from radio psychologically snares a hefty portion of the GP to buy into the ads/brand deals/concert tickets. As proven recently, it only works for ads/brand deals and NOT touring. It's a risk that Beyoncé doesn't need, nor will viably help in the long run. Most payola pushed songs fall on their second week. Bragging rights =/= profit.

 

There are the rare few who INDIRECTLY profit from payola, but other than that, I'm NOT seeing how payola would make Beyoncé profit since the point of payola is to bring attention to the artist, mainly those who are in the freshman/sophomore phase of the business, in order to help with building a potential fanbase, which could help in accelerating the process of paying back the loan. Beyoncé is a household name and her ticket sales do NOT match her pure/streaming reality, so I fail to see how payola would substantially help. The point of Payola is to reach Beyoncé caliber ticket sales, but that just hasn't been the case at all with artists post-Formation, aside from seldom non-payola acts: It's paradoxical lol. Pure streams are a thing of the past, so the focus is ticket sales and Beyoncé's forte is touring. Now more than ever radio play and streams produce next to NO direct cash for music acts. 

 

Case in point, the Lemonade era was payola-less, had nigh-0 marketing, and practically sabotaged any opportunity to optimally chart. It's almost as if she had no desire to be on Billboard at all. Despite that, radio embraced her music. It just seems, in this case, to me that radio organically adores BMS, so why would that be difficult to believe when all factors are considered? It doesn't appear as though she cares much about charting since charts =/= significant profit. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Beyonce-Minaj

[Green]

3 hours ago, Hurem said:

If payola was not profitable it wouldn't exist. There's obviously something good that comes as a result of radio pushing your song really hard. I believe mostly do it just for the bragging rights.

 

And let's not forget how impactful radio is to Hot 100, Break My Soul wouldn't be coming for the top spot if it wasn't for radio.

 

Break My Soul is predicted to have the most units during the current tracking week. The #1 is 100% deserved.

 

#1 streaming, #2 itunes, #4 radio

 

 

[slw84]

Not the OP stopping their tracking of BMS stats. Wow bethenney wow.

 

No chart trajectory since July 26. 

[Ratviolo]

On 8/2/2022 at 11:14 PM, slw84 said:

Not the OP stopping their tracking of BMS stats. Wow bethenney wow.

 

No chart trajectory since July 26. 

11 hours ago, Almost Home said:

The way the OP @Ratviolo stole the thread from someone who likes Bey to bait her fans only to stop updating 

Did y'all even bother checking my posting history?

I've been updating everything in the most unbiased way possible and have praised Bey and the song multiple times. 

I'm currently on holiday so I'll update everything as soon as I can, feel free to track the daily stats in the replies! Not everything is a stan war, but of course I wouldn't expect someone with @Almost Home's reputation to understand it

Finally, the thread was assigned to its legit owner. Seethe!

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

12 hours ago, Almost Home said:

The way the OP @Ratviolo stole the thread from someone who likes Bey to bait her fans only to stop updating 

Right!

 

 

The way the thread was snatched from ME.

 

56 minutes ago, Ratviolo said:

Finally, the thread was assigned to its legit owner. Seethe!

The thread was at 50+ pages when it was in my name. 
 

I’m still not convinced of the way you explained the switching considering multiple threads have been made since then, several of which were duplicates, and the ones with the most comments stayed in the original users name. It didn’t get transferred to another because someone else made it first. 
 

 

This site is a ****ing biased shambles. 

[slw84]

1 hour ago, Ratviolo said:

Did y'all even bother checking my posting history?

I've been updating everything in the most unbiased way possible and have praised Bey and the song multiple times. 

I'm currently on holiday so I'll update everything as soon as I can, feel free to track the daily stats in the replies! Not everything is a stan war, but of course I wouldn't expect someone with @Almost Home's reputation to understand it

Finally, the thread was assigned to its legit owner. Seethe!

Ok, sorry luv. Looking forward to the charts updates. I really do think the mods should let you take over the threads for the main pop girls singles.

[Ratviolo]

9 hours ago, slw84 said:

Ok, sorry luv. Looking forward to the charts updates. I really do think the mods should let you take over the threads for the main pop girls singles.

Yeah, sorry if I came across abrasive - it wasn't really addressed to you personally  as you can see, the girls are still fuming even after I've basically made Spotify threads like this one a thing (with clones and all, Britney teas!) and they wouldn't even bother making a decent OP/updating it!

[TayRianaPH]

On 8/2/2022 at 10:49 PM, Green said:

 

Break My Soul is predicted to have the most units during the current tracking week. The #1 is 100% deserved.

 

#1 streaming, #2 itunes, #4 radio

 

 

Hi, genuinely curious how she got #1 in streaming despite charting lower in Spotify?

Edited August 4, 2022 by TayRianaPH

[MrPiggyMoka]

3 minutes ago, TayRianaPH said:

Hi, genuinely curious how she got #1 in streaming despite charting lower in Spotify?

Spotify is not the only streaming in this world you know

[Hurem]

10 hours ago, Ratviolo said:

Did y'all even bother checking my posting history?

I've been updating everything in the most unbiased way possible and have praised Bey and the song multiple times. 

I'm currently on holiday so I'll update everything as soon as I can, feel free to track the daily stats in the replies! Not everything is a stan war, but of course I wouldn't expect someone with @Almost Home's reputation to understand it

Finally, the thread was assigned to its legit owner. Seethe!

Gather them, king  

[Badgalbriel]

5 minutes ago, Almost Home said:

Now you damn well know this is a bold lie and the very reason you took this thread was not to report anything in an unbiased way possible but nevertheless I will say funny to see how it all played out in the end.

 

Have a nice vacation and hope you celebrate w/ us another solo #1 for Bey next week!  

Not Almost Home claiming someone is hating on an artist.