charts discussion Spotify: Beyoncé's "BREAK MY SOUL" #42 (+1) 1.66M WW, #35 (-6) 447k US [Day 63]

[PrudenceHCharmed]

39 pages  what will happen on July 29th?

[swissman]

16 minutes ago, Squall said:

With a 2014 album track, quite weird to name Taylor like she dropped actual new music 

 

OT: She's doing good so far honestly

I don't think it's "weird" to name a track that she indeed dropped this year and which previously held the title of biggest first day Spotify debut for a female artist. In that respect, it very much does relate to the topic.

 

You say this as if All Too Well (Taylor's Version), an album track from a 2012 album didn't go #1 in 2021 and that her "Taylor's Version" releases haven't been anticipated and treated almost as if new. It's also the first "Taylor's Version" she released from 1989, and was promoted by Taylor herself on instagram the day before and the day of its release.

 

I fully acknowledge that it is not outright new material, nor a very "official" release from Taylor, nor something that should have been a #1 hit itself by any means, but in listing out the female releases of 2022, this one very much deserves to be included. If she had dropped it and it didn't make any noise, then sure it's like a little release we don't need to mention but the fact that it had more streams than any other female release up to this point says that it's not insignificant.

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by swissman

[BnPac]

14 minutes ago, Squall said:

With a 2014 album track, quite weird to name Taylor like she dropped actual new music 

 

OT: She's doing good so far honestly

Someone asked who are the females who released this year and he just replied. There's no where in the post where Tay was put down or made inferior. 

[JonginBey]

2 hours ago, By the Water said:

BMS Day 2:

WW: 4,347,114

US: 1,590,862

 

Stupid Love Day 1:

WW: 4,239,676

US: 1,526,702

 

 

2 hours ago, Queenyoncee said:

 

SL- 2nd day

US: 
iTunes: #1(=)

Spotify: #8(-6)

AM: #68(-21)

Shazam: #72

 

WW:

iTunes: #1(=)

AM: #33(-3)

Spotify: 16(-10)

 

BMS - 2nd day

US

Itunes: #1 (=)

Spotify: #3 (-)

AM: #4

Shazam: #23 (+38) 

 

WW

iTunes: #1(=)

AM: #3 (=)

Spotify: 7(-2)

NOW-

 

[Daydream]

16 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

39 pages  what will happen on July 29th?

Not to mention the day we get Renaissance’s first week numbers. The site will explode. 

[Squall]

9 minutes ago, swissman said:

I don't think it's "weird" to name a track that she indeed dropped this year and which previously held the title of biggest first day Spotify debut for a female artist. In that respect, it very much does relate to the topic.

 

You say this as if All Too Well (Taylor's Version), an album track from a 2012 album didn't go #1 in 2021 and that her "Taylor's Version" releases haven't been anticipated and treated almost as if new. It's also the first "Taylor's Version" she released from 1989, and was promoted by Taylor herself on instagram the day before and the day of its release.

 

I fully acknowledge that it is not outright new material, nor a very "official" release from Taylor, nor something that should have been a #1 hit itself by any means, but in listing out the female releases of 2022, this one very much deserves to be included. If she had dropped it and it didn't make any noise, then sure it's like a little release we don't need to mention but the fact that it had more streams than any other female release up to this point says that it's not insignificant.

 

ATW 10MV =/= ATW. And no, Wildest Dreams was released last year. This Love is basically the same song as her 2014 one so yeah, count if you want I guess, that's still irrelevant (like you naming Avril basically, everyone knows Beyoncé is bigger, not sure what your point is).

 

[Lovett]

The way she's smashing 25 years in.  I can see why they're mad.

[illia]

not 39 pages 

gays are so messy

[swissman]

2 minutes ago, Squall said:

ATW 10MV =/= ATW. And no, Wildest Dreams was released last year. This Love is basically the same song as her 2014 one so yeah, count if you want I guess, that's still irrelevant (like you naming Avril basically, everyone knows Beyoncé is bigger, not sure what your point is).

 

okay I was mistaken about it being the first "Taylor's Version" track released from 1989 but I don't see how any of this invalidates the fact that Taylor did release that song in 2022 and did post about it and it did have the highest first day streams on Spotify for a female artist thereby being a valid part of the conversation by the very nature of that was the marker to beat no matter how little or unimportant you think the release was or should be considered. I never once said it should be a hit like All Too Well. I didn't say it flopped. I didn't say "ha ha Beyoncé out streamed this" I included it in a list of female songs released in 2022, which it is.

 

But what do you mean you are not sure what my point is? I thought I was very clear. I even titled the list "Female artists that dropped new music on Spotify this year". Is Avril not a female artist that dropped new music on Spotify this year? If she is, she belongs in that list. Removing her because she's not as big as Beyoncé makes no sense unless you are asking us to cherry-pick examples.

 

And still, Avril is one of the biggest artists of all time, one of the biggest artists of the 2000s and her debut album was released just about a year before Beyoncé's. In that respect she's a pop-peer to her and a worthy point of comparison. Of course, I did cherry-pick the examples in that I didn't include very new or very niche artists, but is that not good enough? If you want a more condensed list then the question should have been "which of the 5-7 big female artists in pop music released this year?"

 

 

[Squall]

4 minutes ago, swissman said:

okay I was mistaken about it being the first "Taylor's Version" track released from 1989 but I don't see how any of this invalidates the fact that Taylor did release that song in 2022 and did post about it and it did have the highest first day streams on Spotify for a female artist thereby being a valid part of the conversation by the very nature of that was the marker to beat no matter how little or unimportant you think the release was or should be considered. I never once said it should be a hit like All Too Well. I didn't say it flopped. I didn't say "ha ha Beyoncé out streamed this" I included it in a list of female songs released in 2022, which it is.

 

But what do you mean you are not sure what my point is? I thought I was very clear. I even titled the list "Female artists that dropped new music on Spotify this year". Is Avril not a female artist that dropped new music on Spotify this year? If she is, she belongs in that list. Removing her because she's not as big as Beyoncé makes no sense unless you are asking us to cherry-pick examples.

 

And still, Avril is one of the biggest artists of all time, one of the biggest artists of the 2000s and her debut album was released just about a year before Beyoncé's. In that respect she's a pop-peer to her and a worthy point of comparison. Of course, I did cherry-pick the examples in that I didn't include very new or very niche artists, but is that not good enough? If you want a more condensed list then the question should have been "which of the 5-7 big female artists in pop music released this year?"

 

 

You clearly know he implied "big females with new music", otherwise, just name every indie artist who has released music as well since this would include females

 

There's no point in comparing Avril and Beyoncé's numbers, everyone knows Beyoncé is the bigger artist now. 

[BNF91]

These are good numbers. Album will have a very nice debut. 

[gustavothehuman]

53 minutes ago, swissman said:

I think the most annoying part is trying to ruin OUR moment, OUR fun, OUR fave's numbers just to make themselves feel better? I'm not sure what the motive is...

 

though I imagine that's an ATRL-wide thing, I just don't spend much time at all in other artist's stat threads like...why?

Gaga stans in Brazilian forums were also trying to come for Bey. They're objectively the most annoying fan base on Earth 

[suneclipse121]

Great hold now we need the video to keep the momentum going 

[swissman]

14 minutes ago, Squall said:

You clearly know he implied "big females with new music", otherwise, just name every indie artist who has released music as well since this would include females

 

There's no point in comparing Avril and Beyoncé's numbers, everyone knows Beyoncé is the bigger artist now. 

Yes I understood the intention of his request, thus I did not "name every indie artist who has released music." I only included names with a considerable amount of weight, notoriety, or fandom to them.

 

Perhaps none are of the same weight as Beyoncé's name, by now a bonafide legend, but let's not act as if Avril is a nobody, that Taylor is not a huge name, that Rosalia's release was not highly anticipated and beloved, that Lizzo had not established herself as one of the late 2010s biggest stars and didn't come back with a #4 peaking hit with About Damn Time, and that even comparing her to peers like Christina Aguilera says nothing about the level of first day Spotify success Beyoncé debuted with for this song which happens to also be the biggest in her career, about 5x bigger than BLACKPARADE, and about 2x bigger than the highly anticipated Savage (Remix), a "smash hit" she apparently "jumped on."

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by swissman

[CaptainMusic]

Good hold  

[JonginBey]

40 minutes ago, Squall said:

ATW 10MV =/= ATW. And no, Wildest Dreams was released last year. This Love is basically the same song as her 2014 one so yeah, count if you want I guess, that's still irrelevant (like you naming Avril basically, everyone knows Beyoncé is bigger, not sure what your point is).

 

Not you trying to find issue where there is none

[50thStateofMind]

The hold

[CaptainMusic]

5 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

Girl, this has been a thing. In 2018 Beyoncé fans decided they hated Lady Gaga for supposedly "taking Beyoncé leftovers" and ran with it for every Gaga move. 

Then one monster here started with racist posts and started the zero tollerance policy. 

 

Ever since then, it's a mess. 

No, it started way before that on ATRL in 2013-2014 when Monsters became insecure after ARTPOP flopped and Self-Titled smashed.

[Squall]

Just now, JonginBey said:

Not you trying to find issue where there is none

Who the hell asked you? If you're bothered, ignore my post, it wasn't supposed to be any interaction with you  

 

12 minutes ago, swissman said:

Yes I understood the intention of his request, thus I did not "name every indie artist who has released music." I only included names with a considerable amount of weight, notoriety, or fandom to them.

 

Perhaps none are of the same weight as Beyoncé's name, by now a bonafide legend, but let's not act as if Avril is a nobody, that Taylor is not a huge name, that Rosalia's release was not highly anticipated and beloved, that Lizzo had not established herself as one of the late 2010s biggest stars and didn't come back with a #4 peaking hit with About Damn Time, and that even comparing her to peers like Christina Aguilera says nothing about the level of first day Spotify success Beyoncé debuted with for this song which happens to also be the biggest in her career, about 5x bigger than BLACKPARADE, and about 2x bigger than the highly anticipated Savage (Remix), a "smash hit" she apparently "jumped on."

 

 

But who would expect Avril to debut with like 4M in 2022 though?  

The artists you're naming have no fanbases, I didn't expect them to debut with higher numbers than Beyoncé and you're probably aren't surprised yourself. 

[Diocles]

OUCH

[MingYouToo]

Both Gaga and Bey are queens! Stop fighting and lets enjoy both bops!!!

[Dreajae]

2 hours ago, Star dance said:

she did have a good playlisting ewith no 1 on TTH so yes this is a major promotion on the streaming era

it also pretty much worked for her, mainly in her importent markets

nothing bad about it

It's not like Bey is a TTH staple and uses it reguarly. She isn't even the cover. Last time she did TTH was for Black Parade and it wasn't meant to be a hit.

 

She alienated herself from the platform and took a hit last decade. Despite her still finishing top 10 for most streamed women overall. So TTH was somewhat logical if she wanted to let the GP know her catalog was back. Lemonade streams have gotten a pretty huge boost. I don't think yall understand how many people I see asking where certain Bey music clips come from on The Gift and EIL. They truly don't know. 

 

 

I don't know why yall are so desperate to put Beyonce in a box. This is the most conventional release she's done in a a decade, but it's still not traditional. She has yet to drop the video, perform or send the song to radio. We have yet to hear her officially speak on the single or what it means to her really. 

[JonginBey]

5 minutes ago, Squall said:

Who the hell asked you? If you're bothered, ignore my post, it wasn't supposed to be any interaction with you  

 

 

But who would expect Avril to debut with like 4M in 2022 though?  

The artists you're naming have no fanbases, I didn't expect them to debut with higher numbers than Beyoncé and you're probably aren't surprised yourself. 

And if you’re bothered by my response, you can do the same

[swissman]

17 minutes ago, Squall said:

Who the hell asked you? If you're bothered, ignore my post, it wasn't supposed to be any interaction with you  

 

 

But who would expect Avril to debut with like 4M in 2022 though?  

The artists you're naming have no fanbases, I didn't expect them to debut with higher numbers than Beyoncé and you're probably aren't surprised yourself. 

I do not have to expect anyone from that list to debut with more streams than Beyoncé because that was not the ask nor what I labelled the list as being. It was a list of female artists who released a new song on Spotify in 2022...it's really that simple. There's no angle to it. It's a list of some of the female artists who released new songs on Spotify in 2022.

 

I didn't include anyone who wasn't a famous name or doesn't have fans and I even added a note to say it wasn't a year of big releases.

 

I'm not sure what more you want but for me to say "Of the Top 10 Most Streamed Female Artists on Spotify, Beyoncé and Taylor Were The Only Ones To Release A New Song To Spotify This Year".

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by swissman

[nick4bty]

Hive really think they're doing something pulling out SL receipts

 

Doesn't take away the 1M second day drop your fav just had.

 

The level of embarrassment in here