Bussea Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Bang Up said: She has literally never said anything "sketchy" about her bisexuality. In fact, her bisexuality is one of the handful of things she's been consistent about throughout her entire career. It's amazing to me how many pop stans lack basic comprehension skills. She's said she's an ally to the gay community because she's not a gay woman. She has repeatedly had to defend her identifying as bisexual, and did so as recently as 2020. This is something she has never wavered on, and your inability to understand language is not her problem. Bisexuality is not 50% men and 50% women. Like all sexualities and gender identities, there is a spectrum when it comes to bisexuality. Some bisexuals will only date a certain gender or will only have sex with a certain gender, but at the end of the day still feel attraction to both men and women. It's 2022, there's no excuse for why you people don't know this.
Bussea Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Jjang said: Str8 drunk girls bang each other in clubs' bathrooms and they don't go around telling everyone they're bi. It's just for fun. Didn't she say that she's not "entirely" part of the community once or something in that vein? No matter how much liddos will try to spin that around - no LGBT members consider themselves half in. You're either queer or you're not no matter where you fall on the spectrum. And she knows that very well. So to go from "I'm unapologetically bi and **** you for assuming anything otherwise" (her words)--> "I'm actually not fully part of the community" (her words) is sketchy. 2 hours ago, Jjang said: She's doing the bi community a disservice by saying they're not fully part of the community. ErAsiNg A wOmAn's SeXuaLity stop acting like this is some girl we found on the street and not someone part of the 1% rich who says absurd things to sell her brand all the time No this doesn't mean her support for the gay community is fake but it means that in this particular case she said some sketchy things and denying them only makes you look like a weirdo who's willing to bend backwards to defend their faves. girl shut up. you said everything just to not say a single thing at all, if you’re referring to her stonewall statement, she was calling out biphobic people saying that she shouldn’t be in the lgbt community because she’s primarily attracted to men and likes women sexually (a statement she’s been saying her ENTIRE career). Gaga has never said anything sketchy. y’all just love to twist her words so you can be biphobic and erase her sexuality. the fact that we’re still having this conversation in 2022
Jjang Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Bussea said: girl shut up. you said everything just to not say a single thing at all, if you’re referring to her stonewall statement, she was calling out biphobic people saying that she shouldn’t be in the lgbt community because she’s primarily attracted to men and likes women sexually (a statement she’s been saying her ENTIRE career). Gaga has never said anything sketchy. y’all just love to twist her words so you can be biphobic and erase her sexuality. the fact that we’re still having this conversation in 2022 Nope, I'm referring to this statement: Quote "I’m not a gay woman, you know? "And [it’s] that touchy sort of subject where ― can you stand up for people that you are not necessarily fully part of that community in a way that you can understand what you all go through?"
UnusualBoy Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 She's not queerbaiting, she's been a gay ally since she debuted, what else do you want from her? She's done for the gay community that some of these other "gay icons" y'all love to preach about.
Santhosh Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jjang said: Nope, I'm referring to this statement: She is not a gay woman . She is Bi ... can you leave that for her up to decide ? You can hate gaga but you are crossing your limit here
Jjang Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Santhosh said: She is not a gay woman . She is Bi ... can you leave that for her up to decide ? You can hate gaga but you are crossing your limit here I'm literally quoting her Bi people are fully part of the community. Hence the 'B'. This is like the abcd of the gay community pls It's just weird that as someone who considers herself unapologetically bi would say she doesn't consider herself fully part of the community. That's all. Is that not allowed too? I'm sure you're going to perform mental gymnastics and linguistics tests to try to run from the simple fact that that statement is weird.
Sombre Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 This thread is so stupid. Saying you're bisexual isn't even queerBAITING, y'all just open a thread about anything when it comes to Gaga. She has just numerous times that she's bisexual and has had same-sex relations.
Bussea Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jjang said: Nope, I'm referring to this statement: I knew it was a matter of time before someone brought up that untucked quote Because she isn’t. she’s a bisexual woman. she’s always recognized that as one, who predominately dates men, she’s not subjected to the same type of discrimination that someone who is GAY and dates members of the same sex will face. she’s saying she’s not apart of the gay community, not that she’s not apart of the LGBT community. each letter has their own sub community. just because you might be bisexual doesn’t mean you’re apart of the trans community Even after this, gaga has reinforced that she is apart of the lgbt community, so idk why people act like that quote still holds up as some damning evidence as her being a straight woman who’s lied about being bisexual all these years Edited June 9, 2022 by Bussea
fauxtography Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Jjang said: Nope, I'm referring to this statement: She isn’ta gay woman though. And with your and OPs behavior in here - you need to be knocked out with a ZTP violation.
bliaz Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, cOe said: You CAN be bisexual and hetero/homoromantic. I'm a bisexual homoromantic guy, for instance. I usually just say I'm gay cause it sounds less confusing. I feel like Lady Gaga, Tove Lo and some others feel similarly Something similar happens to me. I am romantically and sexually attracted to men, but since the beginning of my adolescence I have also been attracted to women, although only romantically; I imagine myself with them on a date, kissing, but not beyond that, and I don't consider myself bisexual. I consider myself only gay. I was once told I was biromantic homosexual, tho.
Jjang Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bussea said: I knew it was a matter of time before someone brought up that untucked quote Because she isn’t. she’s a bisexual woman. she’s always recognized that as one, who predominately dates men, she’s not subjected to the same type of discrimination that someone who is GAY and dates members of the same sex will face. she’s saying she’s not apart of the gay community, not that she’s not apart of the LGBT community. each letter has their own sub community. just because you might be bisexual doesn’t mean you’re apart of the trans community Even after this, gaga has reinforced that she is apart of the lgbt community, so idk why people act like that quote still holds up as some damning evidence as her being a straight woman who’s lied about being bisexual all these years 3 minutes ago, fauxtography said: She isn’ta gay woman though. And with your and OPs behavior in here - you need to be knocked out with a ZTP violation. gay women = fully part of the community bi women = fully part of the community what's not clicking? No one is even saying she's a fake ally or that she doesn't show genuine support / advocacy - it's just that this statement is problematic. Edited June 9, 2022 by Jjang
Zaram Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jjang said: gay women = fully part of the community bi women = fully part of the community what's not clicking? No one is even saying she's a fake ally or that she doesn't show genuine support / advocacy - it's just that this statement is problematic. The only problematic thing are your comments
Bussea Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jjang said: gay women = fully part of the community bi women = fully part of the community what's not clicking? No one is even saying she's a fake ally or that she doesn't show genuine support / advocacy - it's just that this statement is problematic. it’s not problematic though It’s acknowledging that she as a bisexual woman who primarily has het relationships, she doesn’t face the same things as the gay men she’s speaking too, babes she’s not fully apart of the GAY community because she’s not a GAY woman She’s obviously speaking in a context as opposed to just saying she’s just not apart/half in the LGBT community in general
Jjang Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bussea said: . she’s saying she’s not apart of the gay community, not that she’s not apart of the LGBT community. each letter has their own sub community. just because you might be bisexual doesn’t mean you’re apart of the trans community But some of these contestants could be bi themselves and that would be a very normal thing Jeez just admit that it's a sketchy statement and that's all. IMO someone who literally knows the insides out of the community shouldn't have worded something so incorrectly, if that's just a linguistic error / genuine bad wording from her then that's acceptable too - my opinion however is that it's weird she doesn't know that herself then given how much of a (genuine) ally she is. You wouldn't expect her to be even slightly ignorant in this field. 21 minutes ago, Bussea said: Even after this, gaga has reinforced that she is apart of the lgbt community, so idk why people act like that quote still holds up as some damning evidence as her being a straight woman who’s lied about being bisexual all these years I didn't know about the statement she made years after that and just based what I said on her 2014 vs 2017 comments. Edited June 9, 2022 by Jjang
Bussea Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Jjang said: Str8 drunk girls bang each other in clubs' bathrooms and they don't go around telling everyone they're bi. It's just for fun. this alone is more problematic than gaga has ever said about sexuality Let’s erase someone’s bisexuality and deduce it to bathroom games but call them acknowledging their privileges in the community problematic
Jjang Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Bussea said: this alone is more problematic than gaga has ever said about sexuality Let’s erase someone’s bisexuality and deduce it to bathroom games but call them acknowledging their privileges in the community problematic How? It's a response to people posting pics of her making out with a friend to prove she's bisexual. I genuinely didn't know about that 2019 statement of she made which does clear things up but if you go by her 2014-2017 statements literally every other woman/man would have been called out for the contradiction here but because it's your fave you suddenly wanna make it the oppression Olympics
John Slayne Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 @Juanny @Ryan BTE could you please lock this thread? this conversation has been had one too many times already and it always leads to biphobic comments and policing of other people's sexuality
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