RedDownwardTriangle Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 They need to make FRAY a thing... that comic was fantastic! Loved the character, her growth, the twist, the story overall... A slayerverse concept would work wonderfully as a sort of anthology miniseries where every season is a different slayer from another time period. 1
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Finally finished watching Chosen, and I will just say this: there will never be another series like Buffy. Truly one of, if not, the greatest TV shows ever I don't know what everyone thinks of Season 7, but I think it is one of the series' best. I love the whole Potential Slayers storyline and how much build up there was to the finale, and I loved Faith and Spike and even Andrew's redemption. The First was a truly formidable opponent, and it not having a physical form made it all the more unique for the series' final villain. The finale was incredible too, truly epic and set up the series effortlessly for future continuations. My only gripe with this season was its treatment of Anya, especially the finale, and the fact that Cordelia never showed up again in the series after Season 3. Was really hoping she'd guest star in this season at least. 3
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted January 8 Posted January 8 My ranking of the Buffy seasons: #1. Season 5 #2. Season 7 #3. Season 2 #4. Season 1 #5. Season 3 #6. Season 6 #7. Season 4
livelikemusic Posted January 8 Posted January 8 6 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: Finally finished watching Chosen, and I will just say this: there will never be another series like Buffy. Truly one of, if not, the greatest TV shows ever Nope. Never. 6 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: I don't know what everyone thinks of Season 7, but I think it is one of the series' best. I love the whole Potential Slayers storyline and how much build up there was to the finale, and I loved Faith and Spike and even Andrew's redemption. The First was a truly formidable opponent, and it not having a physical form made it all the more unique for the series' final villain. The finale was incredible too, truly epic and set up the series effortlessly for future continuations. My only gripe with this season was its treatment of Anya, especially the finale, and the fact that Cordelia never showed up again in the series after Season 3. Was really hoping she'd guest star in this season at least. The seventh season is usually split amongst fans, much like the sixth, but for different reasons. I always enjoyed the seventh season from the return of Sunnydale High to the re-introduction of The First. It was a great season that really set Buffy up as THE Slayer, last truly teased during the fifth season. It was an amazing end to a great run!
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, livelikemusic said: The seventh season is usually split amongst fans, much like the sixth, but for different reasons. I always enjoyed the seventh season from the return of Sunnydale High to the re-introduction of The First. It was a great season that really set Buffy up as THE Slayer, last truly teased during the fifth season. It was an amazing end to a great run! Why do fans not like Seasons 6 and 7? Do you personally not like it after the re-introduction of The First?
livelikemusic Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: Why do fans not like Seasons 6 and 7? Season sixth is either loved or hated because of how dark the series became. Plus, the death of Tara is quite a discussion amongst fans. Plus, overall, [some] fans believe, in their canon, the series ended at the conclusion of season five, so anything after is... not canon for them. 2 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: Do you personally not like it after the re-introduction of The First? No. I love season seven. It's one of better seasons for me; I loved the introduction of the Potentials and exploring the Slayer lineage (as briefly done during the fifth season). It was well done. Only thing I hated about the season was the change in cameras mid-season, though, I assume it was done as a budgetary cost.
StarsAllAligned Posted January 8 Posted January 8 7 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: I don't know what everyone thinks of Season 7, but I think it is one of the series' best. I love the whole Potential Slayers storyline and how much build up there was to the finale, and I loved Faith and Spike and even Andrew's redemption. The First was a truly formidable opponent, and it not having a physical form made it all the more unique for the series' final villain. The finale was incredible too, truly epic and set up the series effortlessly for future continuations. My only gripe with this season was its treatment of Anya, especially the finale, and the fact that Cordelia never showed up again in the series after Season 3. Was really hoping she'd guest star in this season at least. You described my exact thoughts to a T, literally spot on. I’ve always enjoyed 7 and the potentials, the finale is a core memory from my childhood and I loved seeing Lalaine from Lizzie McGuire make a cameo. Also bummed about Cordy too! 1
The Slayer Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I absolutely LOVED season 7. I will forever be mad at what happened to Anya! 2
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted January 9 Posted January 9 20 hours ago, The Slayer said: I absolutely LOVED season 7. I will forever be mad at what happened to Anya! A day later and that scene is still haunting me, screw Joss Whedon and his desperation for shock value. What shows would you recommend one watches after Buffy? Female-fronted, action-packed, story-driven shows? Already watched Charmed, now need something else. What are y'all's thoughts on Xena? Is it worth watching?
The Slayer Posted January 9 Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: A day later and that scene is still haunting me, screw Joss Whedon and his desperation for shock value. What shows would you recommend one watches after Buffy? Female-fronted, action-packed, story-driven shows? Already watched Charmed, now need something else. What are y'all's thoughts on Xena? Is it worth watching? The Vampire Diaries if you haven't already, I love it! One of the leads is female and you have some great kickass female characters in it. I also love Ghost Whisperer but that is quite different to Buffy/Charmed but has a lot to do with the paranormal. Not female driven but Supernatural is great, i've recently started watch it and i'm loving it.
fridayteenage Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) i would say the spiritual successor to buffy is actually veronica mars. willow and cordelia's actresses both have arcs. Edited January 10 by fridayteenage 1
Gorjesspazze9 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I just started Slayers Audible today. I finally have time to listen to it at work now. Will give my thoughts when I finish
Gorjesspazze9 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/9/2024 at 11:53 PM, fridayteenage said: i would say the spiritual successor to buffy is actually veronica mars. willow and cordelia's actresses both have arcs. You get it. Veronica and her dad remind me of Buffy and Giles. And all the overcoming highschool cliches, while they girls are doing extraordinary things.
Gorjesspazze9 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/8/2024 at 11:55 AM, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: Why do fans not like Seasons 6 and 7? Do you personally not like it after the re-introduction of The First? Because they are not as good and ruin character arcs. Like Willow & Giles. And some events are just plain bad, like when Buffy gets kicked out of her own house by her best friends and little sister 💀😭
fridayteenage Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: Because they are not as good and ruin character arcs. Like Willow & Giles. And some events are just plain bad, like when Buffy gets kicked out of her own house by her best friends and little sister 💀😭 a buncha ungrateful freeloaders. it's actually not your house, dawn. you're a) a minor and/or b) a ball of light. 2
Inverted Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 10/28/2023 at 1:26 AM, New Edition said: Okay you guys convinced me. I'm going to watch the first three seasons of Buffy, then maybe switch over to watching four seasons of Angel. Just one question - what other teen/young adult 90s show should I watch? I heard there's one called Alex Mack? You should watch Buffy season 4 with Angel season 1. Not a 90s show, but Veronica Mars is very Buffy-like. It's a little slow in the beginning, but picks up. On 11/13/2023 at 5:08 PM, Godly said: Finally watching Angel for the first time ever after having been a die-hard Buffy fan all my life, currently in the middle of S2 and enjoying it quite a bit. The first season took its sweet time to find its rhythm and was waaay too standalone-y for my taste, but the back half got progressively stronger with the Faith mini-arc being a highlight, especially the incredible final act in Five by Five. I wasn't sure David Boreanaz had the charisma to carry an entire show all on his own shoulders so the most pleasing surprise was finding Angel a much more interesting character in his own right than he ever was in Buffy and that the show allows itself to poke fun at him from time to time. That one episode with Buffy and the mindwipe was highkey trash though. So far Season Two is pretty great, there's an actual main arc that is mostly awesome and the exploration of Angel's inner torment through his past interweaving with his present is wonderfully portrayed. The double feature of Fool for Love and Darla originally airing back-to-back is probably the coolest thing they ever did on the Buffyverse and both episodes are incredible. There's at least a couple of episodes that ended with as jaw-dropping a scene as the best of Buffy's cliffhangers and, considering one of the reasons I never got into Angel until now is that I didn't think it'd be able to match those moments, I'm highly impressed. Only minor gripe I have so far is that everyone of the main cast that isn't Angel is getting pretty sidetracked here, as opposed to the balance that was there in S1 and that was one of its main strenghts, and when they do get some focus it mostly results in weak episodes. Looking forward to continue now and it's great to see people still discovering the BtVS world all these years later here, it deserves I love Angel season 2. The whole arc with Darla.
StarsAllAligned Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Idk if any of y’all watch them but The Normies’ reaction to the season 5 finale just dropped
Gorjesspazze9 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Slayers; The Buffy verse audible was so funnyAnya stole the show I would love this to be filmed as a Hulu special or something. Amber benson did a great job writing this. Probably the closest we will get to a Buffy continuation with the original cast.
Gorjesspazze9 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Dolly Parton commented last week that the Buffy Revival tv show is still in the works. 1
The Man Who Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/5/2024 at 7:11 AM, Gorjesspazze9 said: Dolly Parton commented last week that the Buffy Revival tv show is still in the works. I took that with a grain of salt. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had no idea what was happening with it. I don’t want a reboot, but if it means we’ll get the OG series on Blu-ray, then reboot away! 1
livelikemusic Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, The Man Who said: I took that with a grain of salt. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had no idea what was happening with it. I don’t want a reboot, but if it means we’ll get the OG series on Blu-ray, then reboot away! It depends on what version we get on Blu-ray!
RedDownwardTriangle Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 20 hours ago, livelikemusic said: It depends on what version we get on Blu-ray! I think widescreen came into play with season 4 onwards (the EU DVDs for s4-s7 are in widescreen). If I was in charge of aspect ratio, I'd just put both - 4:3 and widescreen - as selectable options for the Blu-ray. There's a bunch of old movies that do it that way where you can choose (e.g., the Blu-ray release for Someone's Watching Me), so why not? It would mean putting in the effort to make the widescreen flawless and digitally removing crew members and filming equipment in the corners, but for this show it would be worth it. Having Joss Whedon there to oversee things would be great too - but I don't think that's an option anytime soon if ever. I just don't want another mess like the pathetic and quickly put together embarrassment of an HD remaster from a few years back. That was shamelessly gross! Edited February 10 by RedDownwardTriangle
The Man Who Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RedDownwardTriangle said: I think widescreen came into play with season 4 onwards (the EU DVDs for s4-s7 are in widescreen). If I was in charge of aspect ratio, I'd just put both - 4:3 and widescreen - as selectable options for the Blu-ray. There's a bunch of old movies that do it that way where you can choose (e.g., the Blu-ray release for Someone's Watching Me), so why not? It would mean putting in the effort to make the widescreen flawless and digitally removing crew members and filming equipment in the corners, but for this show it would be worth it. Having Joss Whedon there to oversee things would be great too - but I don't think that's an option anytime soon if ever. I just don't want another mess like the pathetic and quickly put together embarrassment of an HD remaster from a few years back. That was shamelessly gross! The show was never intended to be shown in widescreen and Joss actually hated the EU releases, but starting with S2 the show was shot in widescreen, but framed as 4:3 for release. You can tell from the current remaster as we’ve gained additional frames that weren’t there in the original release. The problem wasn’t them changing the show from 4:3 to 16:9, it was the fact a real person didn’t actually do the remaster or perform any aftercare such as applying filters and there was a weird use of DNR resorting in a wax-like look. It was heavily speculated that an AI of some sort was used to do the remaster because every frame always seems to zoom in on a persons face, like it was scripted to do so. I’ve seen side by side comparisons of the EU release with the remaster and they zoomed in on the remaster, which wasn’t necessary as the EU release already showed what was available in widescreen. Examples: There’s no way a real person was in charge of this, because why would you zoom in so drastically, when as shown by the parts of the scene covered in red, it wasn’t necessary? It just always seems to try to zoom in on any character shown in the frame, which is really weird. The Charmed remaster has shown that Buffy could look stunning on Blu-ray, as they both aired on the same network during the same time period, the difference being is that the Charmed remaster was handled with care and it wasn’t done on the cheap. I can’t believe that the same team behind the beautiful The X-Files remaster were originally going to do the Buffy one. I have no idea what possessed Fox to take Buffy away from them. To think, in another reality we have a stunning HD remaster of Buffy. https://twitter.com/Nerdy_dan1/status/1491086622036672512?s=20 Edited February 10 by The Man Who 2
livelikemusic Posted February 11 Posted February 11 13 hours ago, RedDownwardTriangle said: I think widescreen came into play with season 4 onwards (the EU DVDs for s4-s7 are in widescreen). If I was in charge of aspect ratio, I'd just put both - 4:3 and widescreen - as selectable options for the Blu-ray. There's a bunch of old movies that do it that way where you can choose (e.g., the Blu-ray release for Someone's Watching Me), so why not? It would mean putting in the effort to make the widescreen flawless and digitally removing crew members and filming equipment in the corners, but for this show it would be worth it. Having Joss Whedon there to oversee things would be great too - but I don't think that's an option anytime soon if ever. I just don't want another mess like the pathetic and quickly put together embarrassment of an HD remaster from a few years back. That was shamelessly gross! I think if they went back, kept the 4:3 for the first three seasons, and then remastered the 16:9 for season four to season seven I would be fine with that. The copies on Hulu are quite nice. The Disney+ edits are slightly different, but thankfully neither have the piss poor "remaster". *knocks on wood* 13 hours ago, The Man Who said: The show was never intended to be shown in widescreen and Joss actually hated the EU releases, but starting with S2 the show was shot in widescreen, but framed as 4:3 for release. You can tell from the current remaster as we’ve gained additional frames that weren’t there in the original release. The problem wasn’t them changing the show from 4:3 to 16:9, it was the fact a real person didn’t actually do the remaster or perform any aftercare such as applying filters and there was a weird use of DNR resorting in a wax-like look. It was heavily speculated that an AI of some sort was used to do the remaster because every frame always seems to zoom in on a persons face, like it was scripted to do so. I’ve seen side by side comparisons of the EU release with the remaster and they zoomed in on the remaster, which wasn’t necessary as the EU release already showed what was available in widescreen. Well, who gives a f**k what he wanted, LOL! The 16:9 edits did not change the vibe of the show at all. If anything, I enjoyed the switch from 4:3 in 3x22 to 16:9 in 4x01. Plus, the filming quality changed at that point so it made sense. The EU release was right there for them to use and they just... did not care. 13 hours ago, The Man Who said: The Charmed remaster has shown that Buffy could look stunning on Blu-ray, as they both aired on the same network during the same time period, the difference being is that the Charmed remaster was handled with care and it wasn’t done on the cheap. I can’t believe that the same team behind the beautiful The X-Files remaster were originally going to do the Buffy one. I have no idea what possessed Fox to take Buffy away from them. To think, in another reality we have a stunning HD remaster of Buffy. https://twitter.com/Nerdy_dan1/status/1491086622036672512?s=20 While flawed, the Charmed remaster was very well done, indeed. CBS took care ⏤ especially in the first season (when there was genuine effort to remaster it) ⏤ and it is a crying shame that Buffy was just thrown to the side for A.I. upscaling with horrible DNR and no colour corrections made. I, unfortunately, don't see Fox going the extra effort to remaster it properly. It's likely a waste of money in their eyes. And it's a shame, because the gentleman in the interview seemed passionate about doing the remaster. Hopefully, one day, he's able to.
Josh Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, livelikemusic said: I think if they went back, kept the 4:3 for the first three seasons, and then remastered the 16:9 for season four to season seven I would be fine with that. The copies on Hulu are quite nice. The Disney+ edits are slightly different, but thankfully neither have the piss poor "remaster". *knocks on wood* Well, who gives a f**k what he wanted, LOL! The 16:9 edits did not change the vibe of the show at all. If anything, I enjoyed the switch from 4:3 in 3x22 to 16:9 in 4x01. Plus, the filming quality changed at that point so it made sense. The EU release was right there for them to use and they just... did not care. While flawed, the Charmed remaster was very well done, indeed. CBS took care ⏤ especially in the first season (when there was genuine effort to remaster it) ⏤ and it is a crying shame that Buffy was just thrown to the side for A.I. upscaling with horrible DNR and no colour corrections made. I, unfortunately, don't see Fox going the extra effort to remaster it properly. It's likely a waste of money in their eyes. And it's a shame, because the gentleman in the interview seemed passionate about doing the remaster. Hopefully, one day, he's able to. I blame Whedon he refuses to give Buffy or Angel a proper HD transfer 1
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