base talk Selena Gomez has a remarkable success in every industry she is in. Why?

[Cheers]

Remarkable is a huge exaggeration. Most of her music and acting ventures have flopped. 
 

Rare Beauty is big though (you can praise her for that) because It’s FENTY Beauty but rebranded for the dry skinned girls.

[Selegend]

33 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

Maybe she should’ve cause at this point Rare is not even going to reach Demi’s Confident that was instantly called a flop by Selena stans  

so what? Rare non-singles are still bigger than any demi album (besides MAYBE tmylm, but i think its also already bigger) and that shows that it was a more consumed album 

and she still has the HITS with the droplets as we can see it here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B38NeQZjKPa/?igshid=NWRhNmQxMjQ= 
 

the fact that its not united on an album doesnt change the fact that she’s managed to get a lot of hits between rare and revival and a #1 single and #1 album with rare… just look at DWTDTAOSO streams (WITH the droplets, cuz demi needed and put them on the tracklist) and than look at Rare streams (WITHOUT the droplets)  and you’ll see clearly that the fact that the droplets werent on rare doesnt change a thing, cuz Selenas Hits releases between both projects still kept her career alive while demi struggled earlier 

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by Selegend

[Selegend]

10 hours ago, RussianRoulette said:

Lol i didn't mean to sound dismissive. 

And if they don't know they should inform themselves on Selegend.

Taylor has always spoken highly of her.

Oh thats fine 

 

its hard for them as we can see it here lmao 

[SwiftLover]

When you drop a deadweight RAT of a man your life can improve drastically 

[KOMH]

14 hours ago, Popboi. said:

According to chartmasters Revival is at 5 million units and Bangerz at 7 million, that’s not the same league. Even The Time of Our Lives (an EP) is bigger than Revival

 

Demi’s self titled and Tell Me You Love Me are both at 4M, closer to Revival than Revival is to Bangerz so the “much bigger” and “on par” comments are way off. Also Selena only has 2 albums above 3M units, Demi has 3.

 

DEMI, TMYLM and Bangerz have a little better daily units from streaming too so that % is seemingly never gonna change.

Revival had all its singles (which were pop radio #1s) go multiplatinum, charted for 70 weeks in the US and ranked higher than all those albums on the YEC. I believe it's also nearing 3x platinum eligibility, so when we consider the sales climate it was released under then it's right on par with it. We all know the CM formula favours single success by dividing/multiplying single sales as well as streams.

 

Demi's biggest album was embarrassingly local and has worse YEC placements than both Rare and Stars Dance. Not to mention it went multiplatinum in exactly zero markets. In fact, none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe. I don't stan Selena but to argue that Demi's albums are in the same ballpark as hers is laughable, especially on a global scale. Demi's latest album that had Scooter Braun's assistance couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases, let alone Rare. Good luck booking those units you speak of.

[devonedelrey]

She is mid in all of them, maybe rb is gonna blow up since make up by celebrities is doing well now, nothing special, everything very safe i guess

[Kayseri Mantisi]

She is it for the GP. Her fanbase isn't even that huge but GP totally loves her.

 

[Sad Serenade]

43 minutes ago, KOMH said:

Revival had all its singles (which were pop radio #1s) go multiplatinum, charted for 70 weeks in the US and ranked higher than all those albums on the YEC. I believe it's also nearing 3x platinum eligibility, so when we consider the sales climate it was released under then it's right on par with it. We all know the CM formula favours single success by dividing/multiplying single sales as well as streams.

 

Demi's biggest album was embarrassingly local and has worse YEC placements than both Rare and Stars Dance. Not to mention it went multiplatinum in exactly zero markets. In fact, none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe. I don't stan Selena but to argue that Demi's albums are in the same ballpark as hers is laughable, especially on a global scale. Demi's latest album that had Scooter Braun's assistance couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases, let alone Rare. Good luck booking those units you speak of.

spilled.

demi stans "bUt sOrrY Not sOrRy" like using one 2017 song to prove her fave is bigger than selena when at this point even camila cabello is doing better than demi.

[thatsmydemi]

1 hour ago, KOMH said:

Revival had all its singles (which were pop radio #1s) go multiplatinum, charted for 70 weeks in the US and ranked higher than all those albums on the YEC. I believe it's also nearing 3x platinum eligibility, so when we consider the sales climate it was released under then it's right on par with it. We all know the CM formula favours single success by dividing/multiplying single sales as well as streams.

 

Demi's biggest album was embarrassingly local and has worse YEC placements than both Rare and Stars Dance. Not to mention it went multiplatinum in exactly zero markets. In fact, none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe. I don't stan Selena but to argue that Demi's albums are in the same ballpark as hers is laughable, especially on a global scale. Demi's latest album that had Scooter Braun's assistance couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases, let alone Rare. Good luck booking those units you speak of.

 

DEMI is literally Diamond in Brazil so your "none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe" is a lie. Not to mention that this same album is elegible 2x Platinum in the USA. 

 

Funny how you bring Scooter as if everything he touches turns into an immediate success no matter what . Demi's last album was completely screwed up by her label. They spent almost two years without a CEO so they could not promote any of their artists, which is why Demi and every other artist who released last year under that label did close to zero promo - they had to pay for everything since their label could not help them at all. 

 

And idk in terms of what your basing your "couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases" comment when DWTDTAOSO debuted at #2 (missing the #1 by what, a few hundred copies?) with 75k copies, while Lana's Blue Banisters and Katy's Smile debuted at #8 and #5 respectively. Not to mention that Demi's album stomped on Lana's on streaming as well. Had Demi's label been in a different situation, the gap between these albums would've been even bigger. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by thatsmydemi

[KOMH]

2 minutes ago, thatsmydemi said:

 

DEMI is literally Diamond in Brazil so your "none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe" is a lie. Not to mention that this same album is elegible 2x Platinum in the USA. 

 

Funny how you bring Scooter as if everything he touches turns into an immediate success no matter what . Demi's last album was completely screwed up by her label. They spent almost two years without a CEO so they could not promote any of their artists, which is why Demi and every other artist who released last year under that label did close to zero promo - they had to pay for everything since their label could not help them at all. 

 

And idk in terms of what your basing your "couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases" comment when DWTDTAOSO debuted at #2 (missing the #1 by what, a few hundred copies?) with 75k copies, while Lana's Blue Banisters and Katy's Smile debuted at #8 and #5 respectively. Not to mention that Demi's album stomped on Lana's on streaming as well. Had Demi's label been in a different situation, the gap between these albums would've been even bigger. 

Diamond where? the standard and digital deluxe edition are only gold and platinum certified respectively per Pro-Musica Brasil aka the only body that issues certifications in Brazil. Label bought plaques from Universal don't count as they are seldom in line with numbers from any IFPI affiliates. This is precisely why they're rejected by both CM and Wikipedia. Screwed over or not, the album bombed despite having numerous singles/pre-album SPS attached to it and at this rate will never scan gold. Smile and COCC have both attained global certifications, whereas DWOTD hasn't despite debuting with considerably higher numbers and spawning 1 or 2 moderately successful singles. The truth of the matter is none of Demi's albums have reached the heights of Revival and arguably Rare globally, and judging by the latest album's performance it doesn't look like any future releases will either. 

[Godly]

12 hours ago, Cheers said:

Remarkable is a huge exaggeration. Most of her music and acting ventures have flopped. 
 

Rare Beauty is big though (you can praise her for that) because It’s FENTY Beauty but rebranded for the dry skinned girls.

You have to be a special kind of disingenuous to try to paint the success of one of the most streamed female artists ever across every big music platform as unremarkable, like it's either that or you just don't know what the word "remarkable" means 

 

Her new show, which happens to be a big critical and commercial success, is the first serious foray into acting she's done in a long time and it's doing fantastic. And no shade, but holding flop movies or shows against any one actor is always really dumb and showcases lack of critical thinking - Zendaya is incredibly popular but that doesn't mean something like Malcolm & Marie is going to be a hit because it's not a movie designed for broad appeal, Andrew Garfield was the talk of the town all year long and his new HBO show is making no noise, etc. Acting ventures should always be graded on a curve since a ton of different variables come into play beyond the cast

 

The only semi-substantial thing Rare and Fenty have in common is the packaging because I'm pretty sure they were designed by the same company, but it ends there 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Godly

[DaddyIssuesX]

10 hours ago, KOMH said:

Revival had all its singles (which were pop radio #1s) go multiplatinum, charted for 70 weeks in the US and ranked higher than all those albums on the YEC. I believe it's also nearing 3x platinum eligibility, so when we consider the sales climate it was released under then it's right on par with it. We all know the CM formula favours single success by dividing/multiplying single sales as well as streams.

 

Demi's biggest album was embarrassingly local and has worse YEC placements than both Rare and Stars Dance. Not to mention it went multiplatinum in exactly zero markets. In fact, none of her albums have ever been certified multiplatinum anywhere in the globe. I don't stan Selena but to argue that Demi's albums are in the same ballpark as hers is laughable, especially on a global scale. Demi's latest album that had Scooter Braun's assistance couldn't even outdo Smile or Lana's releases, let alone Rare. Good luck booking those units you speak of.

Selena has 2 multi-platinum album plaques worldwide and they are both with revival  the exaggeration as if selena is churning out triple platinum in 10+ countries per release is sending me 

 

YEC charts don’t matter when DEMI alone has equal global certifications to Stars Dance + Rare combined…. i guess the following years weren’t that nice to said albums despite that 

 

This unimaginable taylor - bebe rexha level gap between selena and demi does not exist no matter how much you try and argue it they are in the same ballpark especially considering both of their latest releases

[popularmoonlight]

19 hours ago, Cheers said:

Remarkable is a huge exaggeration. Most of her music and acting ventures have flopped. 
 

Rare Beauty is big though (you can praise her for that) because It’s FENTY Beauty but rebranded for the dry skinned girls.

Selena has at least one known hit in literally every single one of her eras - not couting the droplets which all were big on their own. And basically everyone has seen and knows at least one SG movie from kids all the way to grown-ups. Selena's entire career was and still is consumed by different niches of the GP. That's what having remarkable success in every industry means. I really can't at some of you trying to belittle her. Selena was, is and will always be huge and remembered. 

[OrgVisual]

She managed to establish a brand (like the Kardashians for example) which gives her a head start in every line of business she's in

[Cheers]

7 hours ago, Godly said:

You have to be a special kind of disingenuous to try to paint the success of one of the most streamed female artists ever across every big music platform as unremarkable, like it's either that or you just don't know what the word "remarkable" means 

 

Her new show, which happens to be a big critical and commercial success, is the first serious foray into acting she's done in a long time and it's doing fantastic. And no shade, but holding flop movies or shows against any one actor is always really dumb and showcases lack of critical thinking - Zendaya is incredibly popular but that doesn't mean something like Malcolm & Marie is going to be a hit because it's not a movie designed for broad appeal, Andrew Garfield was the talk of the town all year long and his new HBO show is making no noise, etc. Acting ventures should always be graded on a curve since a ton of different variables come into play beyond the cast

 

The only semi-substantial thing Rare and Fenty have in common is the packaging because I'm pretty sure they were designed by the same company, but it ends there 

 

5 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said:

Selena has at least one known hit in literally every single one of her eras - not couting the droplets which all were big on their own. And basically everyone has seen and knows at least one SG movie from kids all the way to grown-ups. Selena's entire career was and still is consumed by different niches of the GP. That's what having remarkable success in every industry means. I really can't at some of you trying to belittle her. Selena was, is and will always be huge and remembered. 

 

Lol she's successful but there's nothing exceptional/extraordinary aka remarkable about it. She's not a top artist, she's not a top actress . People will name you 20 different female singers and female actresses before they mention Selena Gomez as remarkable. Wizards of Waverly Place is the only "iconic" thing in her legacy thanks to Disney's powerful nostalgia.

[Girls5eva]

Success, yes. REMARKABLE success, no. 

[Godly]

44 minutes ago, Cheers said:

 

 

Lol she's successful but there's nothing exceptional/extraordinary aka remarkable about it. 

Well good thing then that OP described said success as "remarkable", as in substantial, tangible, noteworthy, etc. - all of which it objectively is - as opposed to "exceptional" or "extraordinary". You're equating these adjectives as if they're the same when they aren't 

[bestfiction]

She has been working her ass off since her teen days, is likeable and seems to be pleasant to work with. She also maintains her brand very well and isn't involved into any controversy like the Demi froyo disaster. Like remember how she was a laughing stock for a minute for that AMA performance but no one talks about it anymore and it's been almost completely wiped out?

[Cheers]

22 minutes ago, Godly said:

Well good thing then that OP described said success as "remarkable", as in substantial, tangible, noteworthy, etc. - all of which it objectively is - as opposed to "exceptional" or "extraordinary". You're equating these adjectives as if they're the same when they aren't 

Exceptional and noteworthy are the same thing lmao 

 

9 minutes ago, bestfiction said:

 Like remember how she was a laughing stock for a minute for that AMA performance but no one talks about it anymore and it's been almost completely wiped out?

1. Because no one really cares about her like that lets be honest  and 2. she's the only performer that night that didn't upload the video officially  

[KeshaSwift]

She's smart, likeable and kind. 

[SelenaGomez<3]

LIKEABLE, TALENT, BEAUTY, SMART etc. 

 

The new J. LO