dirrtydiana Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 Not “I’ll wait” !! all the posts smelled like an atrler
SimpleKindofLife Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 Summer has no hits and her success is definitely album driven. If Doja isn’t considered a rap artist why would she be considered pop? The radio format that supports her the most is rhythmic and plenty of her songs incorporate R&B elements. I feel like he’s saying that without having even listened to anything outside of PH’s singles.
GeminiCat Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) I've always said a lot of non black award shows don't give R&B the flowers it deserves, esp now, so I don't disagree with his main argument but he went about it the wrong way dragging Doja instead of Billboard. He was reposting and agreeing w/ DMs calling Doja "white" or that she disrespects the black community. He made it a personal attack against the artist who isn't nominating or voting for herself in these categories and gave his gf a shoutout in her speech. And you could tell Doja wanted no parts of that last award. I think people forget that this puts Doja in an awkward position as well. This goes WAY beyond her and it didn't start with her either. Did people forget about Rihanna getting shoved in and winning in R&B categories? Edited May 16, 2022 by GeminiCat
favorite crime Posted May 16, 2022 Author Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said: Summer has no hits and her success is definitely album driven. If Doja isn’t considered a rap artist why would she be considered pop? The radio format that supports her the most is rhythmic and plenty of her songs incorporate R&B elements. I feel like he’s saying that without having even listened to anything outside of PH’s singles. um Doja is versatile but she is most definitely predominantly pop lol
MAKSIM Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 He’s not wrong. Doja is a pop artist that has some rap and some r&b elements.
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) He is absolutely correct. I am sick and tired of these White-established awarding bodies nominating Black artists in every R&B, Soul, Hip-Hop category simply because they’re “Black”. It’s insulting and does the community a large disservice, especially when a lot of Black artists are, in fact, creating music that lies within the Pop, Rock or AC spectrum instead. This is also one of the premier reasons why Black artists are finding it so difficult to succeed in other music genres, outside of what we’re generally stereotyped with, and it stems from the fact that A&R representatives don’t know how to market/promote Black acts to an audience that is mostly White or non-Black and even when we do release said music we’re still placed in one box/category. It’s also definitely gotten a lot worst since the 2000’s, ironically, starting with Rihanna a lot of the time. They awarded Dionne Farris “Best R&B/Soul Artist” at the BBMA’s in 1995 on the basis of her hit song, “I Know”, which was clearly a Rock/Alternative track and she was an Alternative artist. Does this sound like R&B/Soul music to you? Farris declined the award, saying it was offensive she was nominated in that category and not in the Rock categories, even though the song was a smash-hit on Pop, HAC, AC and Alternative radio stations. Doja Cat is a Pop/Hip-Hop artist. Award her as such. Edited May 16, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
Dystopian Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 all that over a bbma acting like it’s a grammy or something
Theshigo Washidu Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 He's right tho. Doja is a popstar and Summer's music has been commercially successful. Why should a pop star be given an R&B award? It's not fair on actual R&B artists.
Theshigo Washidu Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, dabunique said: by da way, Woman has been number one for 9 weeks and counting on da R&B songs charts Summer hasn't even had a number one this year or last but he's trying to say numbers don't lie LOL and yes they don't hence why my b!tch won And Woman isn't even an R&B song. Since when do Afro-pop songs get called R&B? Everything by Black/mixed-race artists is and has been considered R&B (these days) according to old oyibo industry men.
Armani? Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 They gave Top R&B song to Blinding Lights last year, they need to start labeling songs correctly. Being a Black artist doesnt automatically mean R&B or Rap
Armani? Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said: Summer has no hits and her success is definitely album driven. If Doja isn’t considered a rap artist why would she be considered pop? The radio format that supports her the most is rhythmic and plenty of her songs incorporate R&B elements. I feel like he’s saying that without having even listened to anything outside of PH’s singles. This is a lie Both Playing Games & Girls Need Love are hits Also pretty sure the last song by Doja Cat that urban radio played was Juicy
SimpleKindofLife Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Armani? said: This is a lie Both Playing Games & Girls Need Love are hits Also pretty sure the last song by Doja Cat that urban radio played was Juicy We both know urban is a blanket term for black which people still try to argue that Doja isn’t I mentioned rhythmic because it caters to her genre diversity. I never said that Doja strictly makes R&B but if she were to I doubt urban would play her consistently anyway because of this stupid pop label. You can be a pop star and make music besides just pop. Edited May 16, 2022 by SimpleKindofLife
SimpleKindofLife Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 33 minutes ago, favorite crime said: um Doja is versatile but she is most definitely predominantly pop lol This is not even true at all she’s as much pop as she is hip hop but regardless she won and y’all can stay mad.
dabunique Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Armani? said: This is a lie Both Playing Games & Girls Need Love are hits Also pretty sure the last song by Doja Cat that urban radio played was Juicy You Right, Need to Know, & Woman all charted on da Urban airplay charts
Armani? Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said: We both know urban is a blanket term for black which people still try to argue that Doja isn’t I mentioned rhythmic because it caters to her genre diversity. I never said that Doja strictly makes R&B but if she were to I doubt urban would play her consistently anyway because of this stupid pop label. You can be a pop star and make music besides just pop. It's a blanket term for Hip Hop & R&B, and they arent even playing her music Who argued Doja isnt Black? Rhythmic is a crossover format mixing Pop & Hip Hop/R&B Doja's main radio audience is Rhythmic & Pop stations
Raver Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 Summer was definitely robbed But it’s billboards fault. They never get the R&B categories right and they’re the ones in charge of the charts? Lol
dabunique Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: It's a blanket term for Hip Hop & R&B, and they arent even playing her music Who argued Doja isnt Black? Rhythmic is a crossover format mixing Pop & Hip Hop/R&B Summer's man literally said she won da award cuz she's white
Armani? Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, dabunique said: You Right, Need to Know, & Woman all charted on da Urban airplay charts They sure did
Armani? Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, dabunique said: Summer's man literally said she won da award cuz she's white Well that's dumb
sasashite Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 If Beyoncé, Rihanna and The Weeknd are considered Rnb, why not Doja? They're just mad because Doja is way bigger than Summer Walker and deservedly won.
dabunique Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: Well that's dumb exactly ... like dat was uncalled for u can be mad for ur gurl (who no one should attack because she had a great year) but instead of taking it out on BB u take it out on Doja hence why da kittenz pounced on his busted ass all night long
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