base talk Who the f*** is Taylor competing with ?

[Ribs]

8 minutes ago, Ribs said:

1. 1989 - 6.16M 2. Red - 5.535M 3. Lover - 3.975M

Total 15.66M

 

Doja Cat 15.1M 

 

There she goes, with only 3 albums she is on top 

 

1 minute ago, Chika said:

Like I said, you remove all those albums and she still has like 8 more than Doja Cat, obviously she's gonna outstream  Like what's not clicking. If Daja's like 2 albums were oustreaming all 20 of Taylpr's combined I'd be pretty damn worried 

[Venice B]

10 minutes ago, Happylittlepunk said:

Tbh nobody is competing with her anymore other than male acts. I am sorry but but something needs to happen. Female artist need to step up there game or gp clearly is just not clicking with female pop music. 
 

you hear Twitter/Stan culture speak a lot about female artist but the streams/numbers are just not there. I am not sure what’s going on anymore. Maybe Taylor swift truly is the last super star. 

The fact is no female can compete with her even if they "step up their game". Apart from being a very talented artist Taylor is also a business woman and she understands everything about customer loyalty, which is something really important when you're selling a product. Taylor has been building this kind of loyalty with her fans since around Red was released over ten years ago, and album after album she's been giving them reasons to stay loyal and keep up with her. 

 

Nowadays the music industry is too focused on quick trends for artists to even build a proper fanbase. People will love your song and listen to it for a couple of weeks and then completely forget about you. Having a song with billion streams doesn't mean anything anymore. People don't stop long enough to pay attention to artists because they're already too focused on the next big thing, the next trend, the next smash hit. Taylor's success is the result of years of hard work and loyalty building. Most people who follow her and buy her music are the same who were buying it ten years ago. Of course she managed to get new fans as the years passed since she's really good at that, but I'm afraid no other pop girl can replicate the success she has today because it took YEARS for her to build the base she has today. And that's what we call a smart business woman.

[The Music Industry]

7 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

bland and vanilla

Girl you stan Britney and Little Mix 

[Ribs]

Just now, Isaiah said:

Let’s be real… At this point she’s only actually competing with The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Elton, Madonna, Barbra, Michael, etc. 

 

The stats are all there, and it’s no longer appropriate to compare her to current MPGs or the 00s/10s icons, she’s crossing over into the legend lane and OTH will just have to cry 

 

When she surpass them ... then what ? (she can't surpass The Beatles, but the others should glue their wigs)

 

[dirrtydiana]

5 minutes ago, Ribs said:

Not a britney stan  

Yes, taylor is a Britney stan. 

[Chika]

6 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Respectfully, you have to be absolutely ignorant to say Taylor is in the "middle of the pack". Using evermore, a surprise release abandoned after its first week and released so quick to folklore, as some kind of argument that she isn't currently at the top of the pack is just stupid when she's been the most consumed female artist every single day since the start of the year  

 

You can quite literally double the daily units of the closest female artist to Taylor and you would still not match her

Using her recent releases is simply the most logical way to compare. If Taylor's label wasn't willling to push evermore that says more about Taylor than anyone else. Regardless, double Doja's discography size and you're still a large factor off being the same size as Taylor's. Obviously her 2 albums can't outstream the 4 albums Taylor has released recently, let alone the 6 she released before that. Like, it's not a sane comparison.

[Ribs]

Just now, Venice B said:

The fact is no female can compete with her even if they "step up their game". Apart from being a very talented artist Taylor is also a business woman and she understands everything about customer loyalty, which is something really important when you're selling a product. Taylor has been building this kind of loyalty with her fans since around Red was released over ten years ago, and album after album she's been giving them reasons to stay loyal and keep up with her. 

 

Nowadays the music industry is too focused on quick trends for artists to even build a proper fanbase. People will love your song and listen to it for a couple of weeks and then completely forget about you. Having a song with billion streams doesn't mean anything anymore. People don't stop long enough to pay attention to artists because they're already too focused on the next big thing, the next trend, the next smash hit. Taylor's success is the result of years of hard work and loyalty building. Most people who follow her and buy her music are the same who were buying it ten years ago. Of course she managed to get new fans as the years passed since she's really good at that, but I'm afraid no other pop girl can replicate the success she has today because it took YEARS for her to build the base she has today. And that's what we call a smart business woman.

OH WOW 

 

[Ribs]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Yes, taylor is a Britney stan. 

Whatever makes you sleep at night 

[The Music Industry]

2 minutes ago, Chika said:

Using her recent releases is simply the most logical way to compare. If Taylor's label wasn't willling to push evermore that says more about Taylor than anyone else. Regardless, double Doja's discography size and you're still a large factor off being the same size as Taylor's. Obviously her 2 albums can't outstream the 4 albums Taylor has released recently, let alone the 6 she released before that. Like, it's not a sane comparison.

3 albums of Taylor's alone are outstreaming every single female discography, as you've already been told in this thread. Quit it already with this dumb argument that she's only ahead because she has more albums. It's just not working

Edited May 14, 2022 by The Music Industry

[Chika]

3 minutes ago, Ribs said:

 

Ma'am that's 4 albums compared to Doja's 2, Olivia's 1, Billie's 2 etc. And you're not slick combining Red and Red TV (which is like 50 songs long aswell ) like we wouldn't notice 

[dirrtydiana]

Just now, Ribs said:

Whatever makes you sleep at night 

[WildHeart]

5 minutes ago, Chika said:

Like I said, you remove all those albums and she still has like 8 more than Doja Cat, obviously she's gonna outstream  Like what's not clicking. If Daja's like 2 albums were oustreaming all 20 of Taylpr's combined I'd be pretty damn worried 

1989 + Lover, only 2 albums are outstreaming many artists with 6-7 albums(actually every female artists out there except 5) so maybe you should be "pretty damn worried" about that instead. 

[Chika]

1 minute ago, The Music Industry said:

3 albums of Taylor's alone are outstreaming every single female discography, as you've already been told in this thread. Quit it already with this dumb argument that she's only ahead because she has more albums. It's just not working

 

Just now, Chika said:

Ma'am that's 4 albums compared to Doja's 2, Olivia's 1, Billie's 2 etc. And you're not slick combining Red and Red TV (which is like 50 songs long aswell ) like we wouldn't notice 

.

[Ice Cream Skies]

Why do y’all make threads like this every day. Are you getting paid or something?

[Ribs]

Just now, dirrtydiana said:

Beautiful hairs, great gowns.

Just now, Chika said:

Ma'am that's 4 albums compared to Doja's 2, Olivia's 1, Billie's 2 etc. And you're not slick combining Red and Red TV (which is like 50 songs long aswell ) like we wouldn't notice 

Ma'am we are comparing 2012, 2014 albums with 2020,2021 albums 

[magazine]

Lady Gaga and Britney Spears 

[Chika]

Just now, Artistofthedecade said:

1989 + Lover, only 2 albums are outstreaming many artists with 6-7 albums(actually every female artists out there except 5) so maybe you should be "pretty damn worried" about that instead. 

Taylor has a lot of hype recently cause she won't stop releasing music. Those 6-7 album artists either aren't famous enough to compete or haven't released a proper album in years.

[Planet Mars]

Only men at this point. Drake, Bad Bunny etc.

 

As far as longevity, only Drake.

[RihFenty20]

No one. She's in a league by herself currently. Her fandom's pull is actually insane as they will buy and stream the music relentlessly. As another user has highlighted, she's built a type of branding of loyalty through her fans that have yet to be replicated and probably won't be for a while (I feel like Dua, Doja, Ari and Billie are the only new girls who can do it but they would need time in which Taylor will continue to do what she's done). 

 

Rihanna would've been her competition (as she has a similar pull with her fans, especially regarding streaming) but as we know she's used her fan power to sell panties, make up and shape the western world for generations to come. 

[magazine]

4 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

[The Music Industry]

1 minute ago, Chika said:

Those 6-7 album artists either aren't famous enough to compete

That's right!

[Chika]

2 minutes ago, Ribs said:

Beautiful hairs, great gowns.

Ma'am we are comparing 2012, 2014 albums with 2020,2021 albums 

You are actually comparing a 2019, 2021, 2012 (which literally has less than a million daily streams) and a 2014 album to a single 2020 or 2021 album

[Ribs]

Just now, Chika said:

Taylor has a lot of hype recently cause she won't stop releasing music. Those 6-7 album artists either aren't famous enough to compete or haven't released a proper album in years.

She has demand, she is supplying. Her peers just can't relate. 

 

[Chika]

1 minute ago, Ribs said:

She has demand, she is supplying. Her peers just can't relate. 

 

Her peers aren't interested in music anymore and are living out their best lives smashing in other fields (or are outselling her like Adele). 

[Ribs]

3 minutes ago, RihFenty20 said:

No one. She's in a league by herself currently

Is this really coming from RihFenty20 ? Oh wow