Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) It has been twenty years since Ashanti’s debut, but yet no girl has been able to replicate her success in their first years. Why? Her chart run was insane and it was all consecutive: “Always on Time” - #1 (2 weeks at #1) “What’s Love?” - #2 (blocked by “Always on Time. First female artist in history to occupy the top two spots) Spoiler “Ain’t It Funny (Murder Remix)” - #1 (6 weeks at #1) “Foolish” - #1 (10 weeks at #1. First female in history to occupy three spots in the top-ten at the same time after the Beatles) Ashanti - #1 (Billboard 200. Biggest week for a female debut artist in history. 503K+ sold first week) “Down 4 U” - #6 “Happy” - #8 “Baby” - #7 “Mesmerize” - #2 GRAMMY - Best R&B Album (Winner) Chapter II - #1 (Billboard 200) “Rock Wit U (Awww Baby)” - #2 ”Rain On Me” - #7 ”Into You” - #4 Edited April 25, 2022 by Thinking Of You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Maybe you all have some answers: @Devin @GoodGuyGoneGhetto@Armani? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 She had a cute run as the Princess of R&B in ths early 2000s Deserved a longer career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarCAL22 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Baby peaked at #15 and barely made noise... so really the list stops at 5 hits in a row with almost half being features. Other pop girlies have made much more impressive starts Edited April 25, 2022 by CarCAL22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, CarCAL22 said: Baby peaked at #15 and barely made noise... so really the list stops at 5 hits in a row with almost half being features. Other pop girlies have made much more impressive starts What? ”Baby” may have had a moderate top 20 peak on the Hot 100, however “Down 4 U” and “Happy” were still on the charts and “Mesmerise” had just entered and was climbing, fast. Also, this was just after scoring a 10 week #1 and all of this was in the same year. Aside from that, “Baby” was her fourth consecutive top ten hit on both Urban and Rhythmic radio, with her own singles and excluding the features which had also all hit top ten. She wasn’t the YE Female Artist of 2002 and the YE Hot 100 Artist of 2002 for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Thinking Of You said: Maybe you all have some answers: @Devin @GoodGuyGoneGhetto@Armani? You forgot to add “Into You” (Fabulous - 2003) which was also credited to her along with Tamia. Tamia’s version was bigger on Urban radio but Ashanti’s was bigger on Pop and Rhythmic radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: You forgot to add “Into You” (Fabulous - 2003) which was also credited to her along with Tamia. Tamia’s version was bigger on Urban radio but Ashanti’s was bigger on Pop and Rhythmic radio. Oop. I forgot about that. Let me add to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev8 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Charts aren't that impressive imo but it's not from the streaming era so good for ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rev8 said: Charts aren't that impressive imo but it's not from the streaming era so good for ha It isn’t that impressive yet no other girl has been able to recreate this much consecutive success in their first two years. She had a #1 and blocked herself from #1 before her debut single even dropped Her debut single was #1 for 10 weeks Edited April 25, 2022 by Thinking Of You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted April 25, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2022 Not these young’ns trying to diminish Ashanti’s success. She owned 2002-03! Too bad it all came to an end before her best single, “Only U,” even came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 She is @The Music Industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocol Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I remember when "Foolish" came on at a women's hair salon my aunt took me to, I started bopping and the hair lady clocked me and called me a maricón Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclefloprry Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Never heard a single song about her. lemme stream Update: R&B in 2000s was so chaotic is she Jlo's Myah Marie, right? I finally know why, both sound similar af. Edited April 25, 2022 by unclefloprry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Cause she was plastered on tons of collabs and features Ciara, Monica & Mariah (before her), Kesha, Gaga, Beyoncé, etc. all had a big run of hits at the start of their career, with way less collaborations. It's not THAT uncommon. Edited April 25, 2022 by Popboi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemehateme Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Katy Perry comes to mind and before her there was Mariah, Whitney etc. But good for her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCsNumba1Fan Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: You forgot to add “Into You” (Fabulous - 2003) which was also credited to her along with Tamia. Tamia’s version …is the superior version. Tamia’s voice is gold. OT: Ashanti did great things and I’m glad she’s still out there performing and looking amazing while doing so. Her stats are great and should be celebrated. Edited April 25, 2022 by JCsNumba1Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Popboi. said: Cause she was plastered on tons of collabs and features Ciara, Monica & Mariah (before her), Kesha, Gaga, Beyoncé, None of those girls debuted with 503K+ first week for their debut album though so… The features and collaborations excuse doesn’t work here. Edited April 25, 2022 by Thinking Of You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddynamite Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Quote “Ain’t It Funny (Murder Remix)” - #1 (6 weeks at #1) An icon Wonder if JLo would do the right thing and RIAA-certifiy with her name like Babyface did Mariah for background vocals Edited April 25, 2022 by ddddynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Popboi. said: Cause she was plastered on tons of collabs and features Ciara, Monica & Mariah (before her), Kesha, Gaga, Beyoncé, etc. all had a big run of hits at the start of their career, with way less collaborations. It's not THAT uncommon. • Her first solo release was a 10 week #1. • Her album debuted with 503K units in the first week. • She was BB’s Female Artist/Overall Hot 100 Artist of 2002. None of the aforementioned girls saw those stats. in their first year aside from Mariah Carey in 1991 and, to a lesser extent, Beyoncé. Furthermore, collabs. are common and frequent within the R&B/Hip-Hop community and became even more commonplace as the 2000’s arrived. Beyoncé’s first two #1’s featured other artists; Ciara’s first three top ten hits all featured other artists. Try again. Edited April 25, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Thinking Of You said: None of those girls debuted with 503K+ first week for their debut album though so… The features and collaborations excuse doesn’t work here. The girls trying to say that her success was due to collaborations when… She literally only, frequently, collaborated with Ja Rule and other artists on the Murder Inc. roster, most of whom didn’t see half her success with their own work. They’re truly trying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepNoMore Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Even if you go back to the 80s, Paula Abdul started her career with four #1 singles from a debut album, setting a new record, and her debut album also went number one, and then she scored two more #1 singles from her second album too, which album also went to number one. Edited April 25, 2022 by SleepNoMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, SleepNoMore said: Even if you go back to the 80s, Paula Abdul started her career with four #1 singles from a debut album, setting a debut record, which also went number one, and then she scored two more #1 singles from her second album too. Wrong. Paula Abdul started off flopping. They had to go back and change their strategy. I would know because the king of producers, Babyface, produced “Knocked Out” - her lead. Such a great track though. That was never the question though. The question is why hasn’t any girl replicated this kind of success since Ashanti in their first years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepNoMore Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Thinking Of You said: Wrong. Paula Abdul started off flopping. They had to go back and change their strategy. I would know because the king of producers, Babyface, produced “Knocked Out” - her lead. Such a great track though. That was never the question though. The question is why hasn’t any girl replicated this kind of success since Ashanti in their first years? None of what I said is wrong. Yes Knocked out didn’t hit it right away but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with changing strategy and try an they got four #1 singles off her debut album. That’s hardly “flopping”. But you said why haven’t any pop girls been able to do this type of success for their first eras and here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, SleepNoMore said: None of what I said is wrong. Yes Knocked out didn’t hit it right away but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with changing strategy and try an they got four #1 singles off her debut album. That’s hardly “flopping”. But you said why haven’t any pop girls been able to do this type of success for their first eras and here you go. The Way That You Love Me flopped too as the follow-up too. But they went back later and re-released it and added the rap. I never said that. It’s very clear I meant since her debut. I said this: “It has been twenty years since Ashanti’s debut, but yet no girl has been able to replicate her success in their first years. Why?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyHurts Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Bigger than Madonna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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