celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Pop]

1 hour ago, Spark said:

Johnny Depp is a substantially true WIFE BEATER! 

 

Shout outs to everyone in this thread who loves facts, justice, and supporting victims of domestic abuse.  I can't say that i'm not taking pleasure in some of the dumbest people i've seen on this forum coming out as Deppheads though!

Love you!  Sending support! Misogynists must lose! 

[chosensparkles]

Anyone still believes she’s a victim?

i think both brought toxicity for sure but she is a whole kind of deranged… during her testimony she’s serving Ester on Scream Queens… she was definitely jealous of his career and talent while she has no real talent…

[Patient Zero]

1 minute ago, chosensparkles said:

Anyone still believes she’s a victim?

i think both brought toxicity for sure but she is a whole kind of deranged… during her testimony she’s serving Ester on Scream Queens… she was definitely jealous of his career and talent while she has no real talent…

Someone even said she placed fake cheekbones to mimic those of Johnny's

[Raw Honey]

1 hour ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

Johnny will lose for a 2nd time, and all of this "good PR" his fans are so excited about will evaporate the second the verdict comes down.  He can take cold comfort in that he took her down with him.. 

Nah. He'll lose but the public won't switch and tbh all he cares about is what they think so he won. If anything I fear for Amber and her baby because things will become very vicious. 

[Patient Zero]

Johnny already has won. No matter the outcome.

 

I don't think I agree because he seems vile as well. But everyone seems to choose him as the lesser of two evils.

 

And yes, I think it has to do with fame/power and a spark of misogyny. And of course with Amber being a total evil clown as well.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Patient Zero

[chosensparkles]

9 minutes ago, Patient Zero said:

Someone even said she placed fake cheekbones to mimic those of Johnny's

I wouldn’t be shocked

[brazil]

6 hours ago, Ari29 said:

You’re a lawyer yet don’t realize the case in the uk was between The Sun and Johnny Depp? 

Both were defamation cases so I don't see how The Sun being the defendant would make any difference. For The Sun to win they had to provide evidence that the accusations against Depp were true, similarly to what Amber is doing in the US.

 

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by brazil

[tiagol88]

2 hours ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

Johnny will lose for a 2nd time, and all of this "good PR" his fans are so excited about will evaporate the second the verdict comes down.  He can take cold comfort in that he took her down with him.. 

If he does lose he'll get bigger and she'll be more hated than now though. 

He'll get the public's sympathy while she's just going to be the villain. 

She already laughs like one anyway 

[Raiden]

39 minutes ago, brazil said:

Both were defamation cases so I don't see how The Sun being the defendant would make any difference.

The is a  difference — the first defamation suit caused him damage. So now he is suing in order to claw back some of the damage. If he loses then he'll just be where he already is. Whereas if he wins, he can improve his standing with the Hollywood bosses.

 

In other words he has nothing to lose — he's already down and rejected by the industry so he can only go up if he wins. That's why he took the risk. You could argue his English court defamation suit was the one that was a mistake. Because back then he HAD something to lose when he filed that suit. Then lost it and so that resulted in some of his Hollywood bosses reacting to the verdict. Had he simply denied Heard's accusation in public without suing her, then the onus would have been on her to take him to court.

 

I suspect what happened is that he was mis-advised by whoever was his lawyer back then that "England was easy" for plaintiffs in a defamation suit. So he was suckered into it. He got played by snakes / sharks (greedy lawyers who wanted to make money off of him). But now the situation is different  — he is down and out, so if he doesn't win the case which has a high burden of proof on the plaintiff, then he will be where he is already — so nothing to lose. But if he wins he'd have a piece of paper he can wave to Disney and Paramount and Warner Bros and so forth.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Raiden

[brazil]

6 minutes ago, Raiden said:

The is a  difference — the first defamation suit caused him damage. So now he is suing in order to claw back some of the damage. If he loses then he'll just be where he already is. Wheras if he wins then he can show that to the Hollywood bosses who may hesitate to give him film roles.

 

In other words he has nothing to lose — he's already down and rejected by the industry so he can only go up if he wins. That's why he took the risk. You could argue his English defamation suit was the one that he should have not done. Because back then he HAD something to lose when he filed that suit, and he risked it. Then lost it and so that resulted in some of his Hollywood bosses reacting. Had he simply denied Heard's accusation in public then the onus would have been on her to take him to court. I suspect what happened is that he was mis-advised by whoever was his lawyer back then that "England was easy" for plaintiffs in a defamation suit. So he was suckered into it. He got played by snakes / sharks (greedy lawyers who wanted to make money off of him). But now the situation is different  — he is down and out, so if he loses then he is where he is already — nothing to lose. But if he wins he'd have a piece of paper he can wave to Disney and Paramount and Warner Bros and so forth.

I was not talking about what is in it for him, I was responding to an user accusing me of not having a good grasp on Law despite being a lawyer by pointing out that the case The Sun presented in the UK when they won is not that different from what Amber is presenting in the US, they're both defamation cases, if anything Amber has more leverage because her article doesn't even directly mentions Johnny Depp.

Edited May 19, 2022 by brazil

[MARTYN]

1 hour ago, brazil said:

I was not talking about what is in it for him, I was responding to an user accusing me of not having a good grasp on Law despite being a lawyer by pointing out that the case The Sun presented in the UK when they won is not that different from what Amber is presenting in the US, they're both defamation cases, if anything Amber has more leverage because her article doesn't even directly mentions Johnny Depp.

She would’ve had more leverage until she openly admitted in her cross examination that the op-ed wasn’t “just about Johnny”. That’s messed it up for her. 
 

Also it’s interesting hearing the people from inside the court talk about jury members. Seems to be the case that they’re not happy with Amber or her lawyers - obviously to be taken with a grain of salt though. 

[Gaia]

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

[xDiamondx]

I'll be happy when they both go down.  

[Looolqueen]

The trial is about to begin, I like to watch this lawyer commenting, she's pretty hilarious

 

 

[Patient Zero]

27 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

Mostly terfs and hardcore feminists blindly supporting Amber.

From what I've noticed.

[Ari29]

27 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

ALL of this. 
 

 

[kawk]

32 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

[Redstreak]

8 hours ago, Ari29 said:

You’re a lawyer yet don’t realize the case in the uk was between The Sun and Johnny Depp? 

You’re supposedly following the trial but don’t realize both cases are about the same thing (defamation) and it’s easier for plaintiffs to win those in the UK?

[Redstreak]

3 hours ago, Patient Zero said:

Johnny already has won. No matter the outcome.

 

I don't think I agree because he seems vile as well. But everyone seems to choose him as the lesser of two evils.

 

And yes, I think it has to do with fame/power and a spark of misogyny. And of course with Amber being a total evil clown as well.

“Maybe it has something to do with misogyny idk but that b*tch is definitely an evil c*nt. Hmm I guess maybe a dash of misogyny”

Edited May 19, 2022 by Redstreak

[MARTYN]

40 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

It’s the way they say “LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE SHE WAS A VICTIM OF ABUSE” but so far we actually don’t have any solid proof and we have the opposite being said on recordings. 

[Communion]

3 hours ago, chosensparkles said:

Anyone still believes she’s a victim?

i think both brought toxicity for sure but she is a whole kind of deranged… during her testimony she’s serving Ester on Scream Queens… she was definitely jealous of his career and talent while she has no real talent…

You can't hit someone or kick them in their back just because they're toxic and grate on you, so for that she's objectively a victim. You can't argue Amber had the responsibility to walk away and not be toxic and degrading to Johnny after every beating while not acknowledging he had the responsibility to not beat her. 

 

40 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I don’t care for Johnny but it’s hilarious that even with Amber on TAPE calling him a baby, admitting to hitting him, and factually being exposed for lying in her testimonies, people are still acting like she’s an innocent domestic abuse victim

 

Yall are the reason the public is treating Johnny like a saint. The blind idiocy is only making people want to support him even more.

I'm convinced some of you have no experience with domestic violence. No, nothing about this trial holds any influence over centuries of legal structures enabling people who beat their wives.  Nearly all men who committed IPV see no legal repercussions and this was true before and will remain true after with no influence by Amber Heard. 

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, MARTYN said:

It’s the way they say “LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE SHE WAS A VICTIM OF ABUSE” but so far we actually don’t have any solid proof and we have the opposite being said on recordings. 

We have texts from Depps staff talking about him kicking her.

[Patient Zero]

4 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

“Maybe it has something to do with misogyny idk but that b*tch is definitely an evil c*nt. Hmm I guess maybe a dash of misogyny”

I'm sorry but her being a woman doesn't automatically exclude her for being an absolute idiot.

[MARTYN]

2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

We have texts from Depps staff talking about him kicking her.

That’s not evidence, it’s he said/she said. Where’s the evidence? 
 

For everything Johnny said in his testimony he has produced evidence for. The recordings are damning and I really think your loyalty to Amber here is clouding your judgement. There’s only one person that’s admitted to physical abuse in this trial and it’s Amber. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by MARTYN

[MARTYN]

Just now, Patient Zero said:

I'm sorry but her being a woman doesn't automatically exclude her for being an absolute idiot.

This