celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Daydream]

7 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

They were not sequestered. And we know of at least one juror who got a text from his wife telling him that Amber is a psyco, which on its own is telling of the kind of influence they got outside the court room. Let’s not even get into the circus that was outside the courthouse daily. You have to be so deluded to believe that the unsequestered jury were not influenced one bit by the orchestrated media campaign launched by Depps team.

And how do we know that the juror let this text affect their judgment? So what if they received a text. You’re assuming that they took that information into consideration during deliberations despite being told by the court to only consider the information presented to them in the trial. If the court allowed them to continue, we have to assume that the court trusted this person’s judgement as an impartial and unbiased party.

 

Same with all the other jurors. There’s nothing to suggest that they let the media sway them. I can bet that if the verdict had been in Amber’s favour, you would not be questioning their judgment.

Edited June 5, 2022 by Daydream

[for lovers]

The way y'all went from cockiness to desperation and delusion WHEW I cannot. Dignity straight out the window. 

[saucy]

23 hours ago, AMIT said:

I've read this entire thread and there's simply no way you can be both a decent human being and support someone as trash as wife beater Johnny Depp. There's sadly no point in arguing with the members who think otherwise and just want to simp for the majority's conclusion that Amber is bad and Johnny is good. They are deeply consumed by and are hostages of the narrative of the powerful white rich cishet man that want to keep the status quo. It's a ****** up reality we live in and that's NEVER going to see substantial change unless those under control of that narrative are willing to listen. Taking the majority's side and not actually having to think about or question the things right in front of you is the more comfortable decision, but it doesn't mean that that is the right thing to do.

Well put.

 

Not surprised to see people here acting like enlightened centrists or treating it like sport when this could have serious consequences for victims of abuse. 

Also the only major news outlets i've seen support this trial and decision are the likes of Fox News, Sky News...right wing sources. Which tells you all you need to know. Meanwhile you've got the BBC, guardian, new yorker, abc, new york times etc etc all being critical. 

 

6 hours ago, NausAllien said:

 

 

Vice has also reported that the Daily Wire has funneled a lot of money into promoting pro depp content on Facebook. I'm guessing it was the same on twitter, reddit, tiktok too. 

[gugunikko]

I wish him good luck on his court tour. 

[Jude]

On 6/2/2022 at 11:16 PM, Loghen said:

BeLiEvE AAALLL wOmEn

 

She's evil.

Best post in this thread.

[Weld_E]

3 hours ago, Daydream said:

And how do we know that the juror let this text affect their judgment? So what if they received a text. You’re assuming that they took that information into consideration during deliberations despite being told by the court to only consider the information presented to them in the trial. If the court allowed them to continue, we have to assume that the court trusted this person’s judgement as an impartial and unbiased party.

 

Same with all the other jurors. There’s nothing to suggest that they let the media sway them. I can bet that if the verdict had been in Amber’s favour, you would not be questioning their judgment.

So first you accuse us of ‘falsely’ stating that there was a high likelihood the jury was biased without any proof, and when proof is provided, you downplay it’s severity? I’m not surprised as that’s what Depp supporters have done this entire trial, but there is no point arguing with you then. Even if I provide proof that jurors went home and looked at the case’s sentiment on Twitter, your argument will be “will how you can prove that what they read online influenced their verdict???” 

[NausAllien]

7 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

So first you accuse us of ‘falsely’ stating that there was a high likelihood the jury was biased without any proof, and when proof is provided, you downplay it’s severity? I’m not surprised as that’s what Depp supporters have done this entire trial, but there is no point arguing with you then. Even if I provide proof that jurors went home and looked at the case’s sentiment on Twitter, your argument will be “will how you can prove that what they read online influenced their verdict???” 

Yes, that's their MO: MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

 

They ask for evidence, when you provide evidence, they question the authenticity of the evidence, when you prove the authenticity of the evidence, etc; and when they can't move the goalposts anymore, they don't admit they were wrong, they just change the subject or post a meme. This has been their MO for the last 100 pages. That's why I stopped engaging with most of them.

 

It is true we cannot know if the jurors were influenced by things happening outside the court room, but I think it's very likely. The proof is the verdict itself. There's no conceivable way they'd ignore every single piece of evidence presented by Amber and disregard the letter of the law to the extent they did if they weren't influenced by the discourse surrounding the case. This is by far the most outrageous verdict from a civil case I've seen in my life. 

[Chris]

Without biting my head off, can someone elaborate on the sexual assault?

 

The reason why I am asking is because she said she was assaulted with a glass bottle and then the next day she took some picture of the same bottle or something?

 

Can someone fill me in?

[for lovers]

7 hours ago, NausAllien said:

Yes, that's their MO: MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

 

They ask for evidence, when you provide evidence, they question the authenticity of the evidence, when you prove the authenticity of the evidence, etc; and when they can't move the goalposts anymore, they don't admit they were wrong, they just change the subject or post a meme. This has been their MO for the last 100 pages. That's why I stopped engaging with most of them.

 

It is true we cannot know if the jurors were influenced by things happening outside the court room, but I think it's very likely. The proof is the verdict itself. There's no conceivable way they'd ignore every single piece of evidence presented by Amber and disregard the letter of the law to the extent they did if they weren't influenced by the discourse surrounding the case. This is by far the most outrageous verdict from a civil case I've seen in my life. 

All the evidence was analysed throughout the court case and the jury came to a verdict that Amber Heard was lying out of her ass. Before the verdict you were parading how Depp will be brought to justice and how the jury probably won't like Camille's overly aggressive style etc etc. Now apparently the jury aren't credible and it's actually the armchair lawyers on ATRL such as yourself who have looked at all the evidence.

 

The reality is the jury were not emotionally invested in this case like you clearly are, and so they were able to look at all the evidence and come to their own balanced conclusion. The fact you're accusing them of being influenced by social media just demonstrates how deeply you are invested in this whole case. That doesn't apply to the jury, just you. The jury were there to analyse the evidence and come to a verdict, that's what they did, and now it's time for you to move on. 

[for lovers]

Not accepting the outcomes of fair processes, claiming conspiracy because the result isn't what you liked. It's giving Trump MAGAtard circa 2020 election night. Stop.

[Cloröx]

She's truly ovah I- 

 

 

[Communion]

6 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

She's truly ovah I- 

 

 

The article says her team reached out to have GoFundMe take it down since it was a scam?

Do you even read what you share? 

[Cloröx]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

The article says her team reached out to have GoFundMe take it down since it was a scam?

Do you even read what you share? 

I don't and she's ovah so what now?

[Communion]

Just now, Cloröx said:

I don't

 

[Cloröx]

Just now, Communion said:

 

Is this support to help that evil? 

[NausAllien]

30 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

I don't and she's ovah so what now?

[Daydream]

Heardsters before the verdict:

”Just watch! The jury will do what needs to be done! ?”

 

Heardters after the verdict:

”The jury are a bunch of liars! They are all biased towards Johnny! ?”

 

and THEY want to talk about “moving the goalposts”

[MARTYN]

2 minutes ago, Daydream said:

Heardsters before the verdict:

”Just watch! The jury will do what needs to be done! ?”

 

Heardters after the verdict:

”The jury are a bunch of liars! They are all biased towards Johnny! ?”

 

and THEY want to talk about “moving the goalposts”

This! This! This! 

[Rogue_Redux]

8 minutes ago, Daydream said:

Heardsters before the verdict:

”Just watch! The jury will do what needs to be done! ?”

 

Heardters after the verdict:

”The jury are a bunch of liars! They are all biased towards Johnny! ?”

 

and THEY want to talk about “moving the goalposts”

[Sparrow's Bride]

2 hours ago, Daydream said:

Heardsters before the verdict:

”Just watch! The jury will do what needs to be done! ?”

 

Heardters after the verdict:

”The jury are a bunch of liars! They are all biased towards Johnny! ?”

 

and THEY want to talk about “moving the goalposts”

Haha right 

All these mental gymnastics only because they can’t deal with the fact that Amber lost on all three counts because she is a LYING ABUSER. I mean accusing the jury of being influenced by the media??
Objection your honor, based on the evidence seen here the h0es are indeed mad!

[Daydream]

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/amber-heard-net-worth/

 

Her net worth has been updated to -$6 million

Congratulations, if you’re reading this you are likely worth more than Amber Heard

 

[Gaia]

9 hours ago, for lovers said:

Not accepting the outcomes of fair processes, claiming conspiracy because the result isn't what you liked. It's giving Trump MAGAtard circa 2020 election night. Stop.

Truly!  And the sad part is I truly feel sorry for them. They actually think they’re some heroic and morally righteous people because they support Heard. But hey, unaware and uneducated religious people who exhibit the same behaviors are also the same trump supporters. I guess the analogy is spot on!

Edited June 5, 2022 by Gaia

[suburbannature]

5 hours ago, Daydream said:

Heardsters before the verdict:

”Just watch! The jury will do what needs to be done! ?”

 

Heardters after the verdict:

”The jury are a bunch of liars! They are all biased towards Johnny! ?”

 

and THEY want to talk about “moving the goalposts”

1. Most of us barely knew who Heard was before this, but we have a more pronounced understanding of the dynamics of IPV

 

2. Most here had seen the courtroom commentary that stated the jurors seemed enamored by Depp, and that there was often a circus-like atmosphere in the gallery. No one with knowledge of IPV litigation was confident in a win for Heard based on the jury information and because of how rarely that perpetrators of abuse are held accountable in court.

 

And yet again, the dozens of thread tweets and links to evidence and court findings I’ve posted (again) are passed over in favor of sweeping statements about “Heardsters.” It’s clear that no one actually wants to take a look at true evidence, but would rather repost TikToks, make comments about “Turd,” and continue to protect an abusive man with power. At the end of the day, you all will have to reconcile with that about yourselves and history will not look back kindly on this. 

[Raiden]

17 hours ago, Chris said:

Without biting my head off, can someone elaborate on the sexual assault?

 

The reason why I am asking is because she said she was assaulted with a glass bottle and then the next day she took some picture of the same bottle or something?

 

Can someone fill me in?

That's one more of the odd things in this case. AH's lawyers made sure they didn't mention that broken bottle penetration allegation in their closing arguments. That's odd. How can you "forget" the most heinous of the accusations?...... unless you actually have second thoughts and want the jury to no longer pay attention to it (because evidently Camille Vasquez's cross exam regarding that episode was so devastating.

 

Compare that to how the defense team, especially Rottenborn went back repeatedly hammered on the juvenile explicit emails/text that JD had sent to his buddies, despite that that doesn't prove or even address the domestic violence allegations. But looking back I'm not sure about the credibility of even those messages sent.  I believe AH may have had access to JD's device or devices. Some of the language that he is supposed to have used in his messages seem awfully close to AH-written manifestos. I wouldn't put it past her to grab his device (when he's passed out) and do something nefarious with it. That also explains why JD didn't recognize some of the stuff that Rottenborn claimed he composed. I believe JD didn't recognize them because they were indeed sent from his device.... but possibly by her. But JD didn't want to complicate the case and accuse her of device tampering.

 

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Raiden

[Communion]

Reactionary right-wing men-rights activists: "Heard fans are delusion! They're conspiracy theorists!"

 

Also reactionary right-wing men-rights activists: "You see, Amber actually was able to hack into Johnny's phone when they were separated miles away and send disparaging text messages about her, posing as him, and this is why Depp cannot remember sending them, not his drug abuse, and is also why Depp was justified in slapping the **** out of her"

 

At least have some self-awareness to disavow the troll in here openly citing Megyn Kelly & Jeanine Piro.