verydelta Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Sorry RHOP, RHOBH & RHOM but its over for yall this week 2
slw84 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 The girls are scrambling for excuses: The haters are desperately trying to equate Heather lying to protect Jen as worse when none of the cast had any real tea. They were ride or die friends and none of them were directly impacted by the crimes to harbor anger. They distanced themselves from Jen. The haters are trying so bad to pull out a win for Moni con. Either some people never have been in a friend group/had friends or something else is going on. Unlike Tenesha who did Heather's hair, Monica went out of her way to infiltrate the group, stir up drama, get tea and then throw people under the bus to elevate herself. Tenesha and Monica are not the same jerks. Both jerks but Tenesha didn't go as far as to get entangled in the group. All I see online are foolish people saying well you (Heather) lied about Jen. Um, if that is her friend and she doesn't want anything to add more time to her prison sentence then that is a ride or die move. The evidence was already out there why add fuel to it. That's what people with friends would expect from their friend. Instead the girls want to support the fake fraud who keeps being deceitful but wants us to feel sorry for her because her mom is an evil narcissist...AND she. is JUST like her mom. Ha. I love how episodes like this separate the strong charactered from the less than... The way some can't just admit they chose the evil one Monica and stand in it. Teehee. 1 1
rihxnicki Posted January 3 Posted January 3 15 hours ago, Snoopy said: Whitney doing her BEST to get caught up in all of this as if any one cares about her or her husband They all had reasons to be pissed about RVT but Whitney’s acting like she suffered so much was pathetic, especially compared to what has been said about the others. Heather’s looks, her business and her face have been attacked, Lisa has been branded a racist, and Monica was part of the Meredith Marks Bag Heist. All Whitney had to complain about was being called a swinger, which has been part of the show since like S1E1. She didn’t even argue well like the rest of them. Lisa was as hilarious and unhinged as ever, Meredith and her accent always serve the dramatics, Angie was a flop with the flowers (but in a good way), and Heather… possibly the best argument on Housewives ever. It’s up there with Amsterdam and the leg throw. 1
slw84 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, ToraeGilt said: you have the nerve to say this while simultaneously stanning Heather Gay? the jokes writer themselves "The jokes writer themselves" chanteuse stands on business and isn't budging. I said what I said. Why are you all conflating the issues here? Monica is not being crucified because she lied...it's because she came into the group being deceitful and causing chaos pretending to want to be friends with them. That's not just lying about a black eye so that your friend doesn't get additional time in prison. Ya'll would have thought Heather hid evidence or went on a tour claiming Jen was totally innocent and framed. Heather didn't add anything that could further complicate her friend's troubles. That's what friends do. Friends don't have three aliases...have unpaid fees from your business...say to another friend that they've never been inside your business when there is camera footage of her in her other alias doing so...spread gossip and rumors to bring division. That's not what a friend group is about. BUT it was entertaining. 1 hour ago, verydelta said: RECEIPTS PROOF TIMELINES SCREENSHOTS ******* EVERYTHING TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE A ******* BULLY AND A ******* TROLL! NEEDS TO BE ON A T-SHIRT I need this to go viral and get used whenever a takedown is imminent. Edited January 3 by slw84 1
crf13 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) You guys asking for Dana to return. It’s time for some of you to admit you just hate the core four and will applaud anyone who tries to terrorize them. None of those women care about Dana’s existence. You can’t bridge the Monica vs the rest of the cast gap when the rest of the cast doesn’t care about Dana either. And we all know production was icing Mary out, so the begging for a friend of to bridge the gap is delusional behavior. You can cry about it being a tv show all day long. At the end of the day, if the women don’t feel comfortable with Monica, then, they’re not firing 5 women to keep one who doesn’t even have the necessary wealth to flaunt on this show. Sure, Whitney, could be seen as the one most likely to break, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the cast has to take the bait. They’re not getting paid to be tortured on camera, and they have every right to not want to work with someone who’s dangerous. The federal government was responsible for holding Jen accountable, and they did. Monica being seen by some viewers as “the reason Jen’s sitting in prison” is beyond laughable when the Feds had been watching Jen for years. They weren’t waiting for Monica’s broke ass to lead their investigation. Why exactly do you want those women to be stuck filming with someone who doesn’t even like them? They’re supposed to pretend to be friends with an online troll/hater? And why does Monica want to be around them when she doesn’t like them? Housewives is specific brand of reality tv…it’s about friendship. They were not all as close with one another when they started this show, but they’ve developed a bond through the show. Monica is still a stranger to them, and she’s ruined any chance of them wanting a genuine friendship with her. Edited January 3 by crf13 4 1
lustforyou Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 31 minutes ago, slw84 said: The haters are desperately trying to equate Heather lying to protect Jen as worse when none of the cast had any real tea. They were ride or die friends and none of them were directly impacted by the crimes to harbor anger. They distanced themselves from Jen. Either some people never have been in a friend group/had friends or something else is going on. I think this is it. The people saying they would immediately toss aside a friend for alleged crimes that don't impact you (the friend) at all and are (at the time) unconfirmed, while your friend is swearing innocence, are not rooted in reality. Or they're just really bad friends. The whole point of being a true friend is sticking by that person when **** gets hard for them. Anyone who would toss their friend away because of popular opinion from people on Twitter is a weak minded person Monica is stalker-level. Her actions would already be plenty weird coming from a regular fan, but coming from someone who's supposed to be apart of this group/become "friends" with them and travel together, share beds, be in their homes? It goes from super weird to almost dangerous. She's already used deceit (disguises and aliases) to steal from both Heather and Meredith, and she gleefully reveled in telling the story (on national tv) of having an affair on her husband with her brother-in-law. She clearly has zero boundaries and is like a scarier, more dangerous Brandi (I've seen the two compared on Reddit). At least Brandi was/is just sloppy and mean when drunk. Monica is more controlled and much more lucid than Brandi so she is capable of enacting calculated full-on schemes Edited January 3 by lustforyou 1
rihxnicki Posted January 3 Posted January 3 19 minutes ago, lustforyou said: I think this is it. The people saying they would immediately toss aside a friend for alleged crimes that don't impact you (the friend) at all and are (at the time) unconfirmed, while your friend is swearing innocence, are not rooted in reality. Or they're just really bad friends. The whole point of being a true friend is sticking by that person when **** gets hard for them. Anyone who would toss their friend away because of popular opinion from people on Twitter is a weak minded person Exactly. On top of this, they all pretty much 100% knew the woman was going to prison, why bother even trying to fight with her about it when all she is gonna do is scream like a banshee about how she’s innocent. If I was there I would have left her alone in her delusions and got on with my own life. Also, Jen is a literal psychopath that surrounded herself with other psychopaths like Monica, they have dirt on everyone and clearly have 0 issues with spreading it.
Illyana Frost Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) The microchanges in Monica's facial expression when she finally revealed that she, indeed, was in it "partially"...gave me literal chills. She knew what she was doing all along...and played her role almost masterfully. As a viewer I loved it...but I would be TERRIFIED of her in real life. One of the best seasons ever. Edited January 3 by Illyana Frost 2
ZIVERT Posted January 3 Posted January 3 By the way, I think Whitney is actually pissed about how Heather included the bit about producers or Lisa (I can’t remember which) thinking that Whitney was more TLC than Bravo, but they couldn’t bring that up directly on the show.
igninton Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Gosh I really need a RHONY Legacy full show after the Girls Trip, they don't do them like LuAnn and Ramona anymore
Rotunda Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, crf13 said: Housewives is specific brand of reality tv…it’s about friendship. The Housewives brand hasn’t been about friendship in like a decade.
Daddy Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I never watched SLC in my life but watched this finale with a friend of mine (he's a huge Housewives franchise stan) and we got our entire life. Monica was READY!
boys Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 Are yall really in here trying to twist it on the fans saying we're bad friends or not rooted in reality for our way of thinking? Clearly no one is dropping their friend day 1 when something happens like it did to Jen you wait to hear what's actually going on. The difference here is that Jen's only defense to the public and her friend group was that she was completely innocent and she had no idea why this was happening to her. Now I don't we are the ones with our thinking not rooted in reality if you were going to believe that the government did what they did to her without actual evidence against her while she preaches a case of mistaken identity pretty much. While giving us this idiotic ass response for not one season but two you have people like Heather who claims to be such an intellectual doubling down on it by saying even if she was guilty of what they were accusing her of she was still going to be there for her even in the midst of her awful behavior and being beat up by her. Now maybe YOU guys are the type to just take any type of abuse because you don't know what you should be receiving from a friend but what Jen Shah was doing was not it and Heather made the entire situation worse by not holding her accountable. 3 2
raven Posted January 3 Posted January 3 The only way Monica can stay on the show is if there's some sort of reconciliation that happens on both sides and I don't see that happening 1
Rotunda Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I can’t tell if all of you making excuses for why Heather let Jen bully her for years or why the girls continued to defend Jen despite knowing her background are gullible or just delusional. The same way people with marriages worth keeping don’t come on Bravo, people with friendships worth keeping don’t sign on to a reality show where a core premise of that friendship is that you fight with each other. Heather standing by Jen despite being lied to, physically assaulted, and verbally accosted by her has much less to do with them being friends (what kind of real friend can Jen be to anyone?), and much more to do with the fact that Heather has always been an insecure follower, and that these women will do anything for a tv show. She’s made it clear through the way she let Jen treat her, the way she let Mary talk about her (and the way she writes about Mary), the way she pines for Lisa’s approval, and the way she acted on UGT that she is desperate to be one of the cool girls. Maybe it’s tied to her Mormon upbringing (needing to be the perfect partner, friend, mother, etc.), but y’all are not gonna convince me that there was ever something real in that friendship. 3 2
Terrielle Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Omg that was INCREDIBLE. I was shook to the CORE. I never thought the SLC ladies would deliver, and oh my did they. Idk what to consensus on the fandom streets is but I selfishly NEED Monica to comeback next season. She is like a fictional villain come to life. 2
slw84 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, crf13 said: You guys asking for Dana to return. It’s time for some of you to admit you just hate the core four and will applaud anyone who tries to terrorize them. None of those women care about Dana’s existence. You can’t bridge the Monica vs the rest of the cast gap when the rest of the cast doesn’t care about Dana either. And we all know production was icing Mary out, so the begging for a friend of to bridge the gap is delusional behavior. You can cry about it being a tv show all day long. At the end of the day, if the women don’t feel comfortable with Monica, then, they’re not firing 5 women to keep one who doesn’t even have the necessary wealth to flaunt on this show. Sure, Whitney, could be seen as the one most likely to break, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the cast has to take the bait. They’re not getting paid to be tortured on camera, and they have every right to not want to work with someone who’s dangerous. The federal government was responsible for holding Jen accountable, and they did. Monica being seen by some viewers as “the reason Jen’s sitting in prison” is beyond laughable when the Feds had been watching Jen for years. They weren’t waiting for Monica’s broke ass to lead their investigation. Why exactly do you want those women to be stuck filming with someone who doesn’t even like them? They’re supposed to pretend to be friends with an online troll/hater? And why does Monica want to be around them when she doesn’t like them? Housewives is specific brand of reality tv…it’s about friendship. They were not all as close with one another when they started this show, but they’ve developed a bond through the show. Monica is still a stranger to them, and she’s ruined any chance of them wanting a genuine friendship with her. Luv, I get they won't give Heather her flowers but a Dana return all because she supported Monica on IG live last night. The bar is in HELL'S Hell. Alot of commentators on social media get lost in this game and forget reality. It's entertaining but it makes it tough to move forward. Yes, the feds were watching Jen since 2012 now all of the sudden Monica is the hero who took down Goliath What Monica did is irredeemable and while we were gagged she made it difficult for any amends in the future but I do think Whitney and Angie will cave but the others will likely stand strong. Imagine Kenya or Gizelle doing what Monica did and them showing support 1
Terrielle Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 hours ago, Lost In Paradise said: Monica absolutely picked up and sold Lisa's 60g ring, you cannot convince me otherwise after last night omg that would explain why she was so annoyed with her bringing it up often!! I am convinced now too!! 1
Lost In Paradise Posted January 3 Posted January 3 that flashback to the morning after the black eye with Jen was SO DARK how Jen was lying to Meredith's face like "yeah like we have no clue - do you have any idea??" a true psychopath 1
Rotunda Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, slw84 said: Alot of commentators on social media get lost in this game and forget reality. It's entertaining but it makes it tough to move forward. Yes, the feds were watching Jen since 2012 now all of the sudden Monica is the hero who took down Goliath We’re not in reality, but you think it’s logical for the core 4 to stand by a woman who was being investigated for a decade? You think a Northwestern Law grad was supporting Jen cause that’s “real friendship?” 2
boys Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Rotunda said: We’re not in reality, but you think it’s logical for the core 4 to stand by a woman who was being investigated for a decade? You think a Northwestern Law grad was supporting Jen cause that’s “real friendship?”
slw84 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 36 minutes ago, Rotunda said: OMFG. Mary and her improper enunciation teaming up with Monica to "defend" her...and will break ties with Meredith. OH I LOVE that concept. See I thought Mary had some integrity and a shred of glass and was going to stay loyal to Meredith as Meredith has been loyal to a fault with her. Mary said NAH I am on the Monica train and YES every lady has the right to take Mary to tasks about her son. Lisa is gonna wear that azz out now that she finally has tea to push against Mary. She had the church stuff but that was rumored. Mary better not come into season 5 (as a friend of course) and think they aren't going to call her out. What Mary fails to realize is that you (Mary) "getting us through the first half" wasn't followed by Monica "getting us through the 2nd half" That's called: production caved and brought you back in due to audience demand...you fell flat and were no longer funny and once Monica took over they no longer needed to eat crow pie with you and went with the new crazy. Monica might want you but production might not as they do not need you. You did yourself NO favors this season and are now willing to betray the two cast members who you are cool with (Meredith and Heather). I CAN'T WAIT. This makes more sense because there's no way they are getting rid of Monica or firing the other ladies to keep Monica Legend Heather Icon Lisa Meredith that baby voiced girl The Mask girl FOH Mary Monica We will get to see Mary vs Meredith, Mary vs Heather and Lisa will find a way to make a scene for herself Mary won't get Heather to sitdown with Monica but she might get the other girls to do so. It will fail and then we can get Danielle and Kim G. on out the way for some fresh blood.
ZIVERT Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I think a lot of us don't understand what it's like to be raised in a high-demand religion like Heather, marry into an important family within that religious community, only to have it all fall apart and suddenly everyone and everything you knew has shunned you. Listening to Heather's two appearances on the Mormon Stories podcast (nearly 6 hours of content, but the Mormons are so interesting ) and reading her book, its clear how much unlearning and discovering of herself she's had to do since stepping away from the LDS church. Enter Jen, who as we now know is a manipulative abuser, at that critical stage in Heather's journey, I can totally see some sort of Stockholm/Battered Wife Syndrome taking place in her relationship with Jen. I think Heather finally has some kind of grasp on her own identity outside of what Mormonism conditioned her to be (not saying she's done evolving from that, she has plenty of work to do) and has the tools necessary to create boundaries and speak up for herself. Do I think that some of her anger was projection of the hurt Jen has caused on her/their group? Yes, of course. But I do think its a sign of growth. These women are much more complex than we give them credit for! That being said, my pre-reunion wish: I need the cast to remain as it is now so we can get some follow up. I don't know if the reunion with bring any resolution, or if there can be any resolution at all. But it's damn good reality TV! 1
Chemist Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I'd drop my 'friend' in a heartbeat if i found out that they stole money from elderly
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