Breathe On Moi Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gaia said: I saw a few TikTok’s recently of old RHOBH and how they used to actually be filthy rich like Adrienne Malloy and Lisa V. i think that’s kinda why the franchise as a whole seems to have fallen off. Housewife is supposed to give viewers a fantasy of your wealth, class, etc. Who wants to watch middle class people or barely rich and in modest homes people just fight all day about stupid stuff. that’s when I used to still watch this branch. It was just so mesmerizing the way it was filmed, like you felt so ******* poor watching them, and the way they talked…it was just so expensive. just totally went downhill the minute that fake pop star with old husband came on the show.
Gaia Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, TryMe said: But it's still giving opulence, but the ones you are mentioning were really showing off their wealth. I think Kyle, Crystal, and Sutton are really rich. That's why I loved Kathy on the show; she was RICHHH. The rest are just trying to keep up. A show with only extremely wealthy people would be boring. They have too much to lose, and I don't think true wealth wants to associate with Bravo. Bravo thrives on cheating scandals and court cases. That's true they've sort of dug their own hole with how they treated past housewives who have no monetary need to be on the show. But still, no one wants to watch if Housewives is their main "bag" which is does seem to be for some. I'd watch it again if it didn't feel like just a collection of random women in cities with no wealth requirements
Gaia Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said: that’s when I used to still watch this branch. It was just so mesmerizing the way it was filmed, like you felt so ******* poor watching them, and the way they talked…it was just so expensive. just totally went downhill the minute that fake pop star with old husband came on the show. Right its why BH was my favorite franchise until the drama became too fabricated. That ******* Teddy dog fiasco dragging on an entire season was DREADFUL But yeah, way I miss the show just being rich AF with rich people problems (addicts, alcoholics, cheating, etc.) but money not being one Edited December 23, 2023 by Gaia 1
Gaia Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) I miss this drama. There was maybe one "lower" class person like Brandi who had no class to stir things up but now it seems like most Edited December 23, 2023 by Gaia
Chemist Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said: that’s when I used to still watch this branch. It was just so mesmerizing the way it was filmed, like you felt so ******* poor watching them, and the way they talked…it was just so expensive. just totally went downhill the minute that fake pop star with old husband came on the show. Actually Erika was giving as much as opulence as LVP/Adrienne on her 1st season. Lisa Rinna was the one who made the show ****** cheap and trashy
yourfaveisaflop Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 These SLC girls are always fighting and I live! Jennie finally bringing something. Lisa is getting on my nerves. Never a dull episode with these ladies
PrettyHurts Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Random but I kinda hope Erika forms an alliance with Sutton and Garcelle. She seems to be getting on with them better and I actually think the dynamic between the three of them is interesting. Especially now that fab five or whatever has weakened. Rinna is gone, Dorit is a joke, and Kyle doesn’t give a ****. Erika should switch sides Edited December 23, 2023 by PrettyHurts 1
rihxnicki Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 23 hours ago, Gaia said: I saw a few TikTok’s recently of old RHOBH and how they used to actually be filthy rich like Adrienne Malloy and Lisa V. i think that’s kinda why the franchise as a whole seems to have fallen off. Housewife is supposed to give viewers a fantasy of your wealth, class, etc. Who wants to watch middle class people or barely rich and in modest homes people just fight all day about stupid stuff. I think the reason why old BH was so good wasn’t because they were actually extremely rich (they weren’t), it was because the entire premise was the facade of the perfect American life, while the show actually exposed the darkness and scummy side of that wealth. Taylor was showing off with extravagant parties while being abused at home Camille tried to put herself above the rest even though she ****** her way to the top and was being cheated on Kyle and Kim were faded child stars grasping onto a family name and struggling with addiction Adrienne was a casino and hotel owner (but not really) LVP was always hanging around with shady grifters like Cedric, and is still to this day selling stories about her ‘friends’, committing insurance fraud with her restaurants, and not paying taxes OR the employees that Ken abuses These aren’t even considering the cast of side characters like Faye, Dana and Camille’s friends 1
Gaia Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, rihxnicki said: I think the reason why old BH was so good wasn’t because they were actually extremely rich (they weren’t), it was because the entire premise was the facade of the perfect American life, while the show actually exposed the darkness and scummy side of that wealth. Taylor was showing off with extravagant parties while being abused at home Camille tried to put herself above the rest even though she ****** her way to the top and was being cheated on Kyle and Kim were faded child stars grasping onto a family name and struggling with addiction Adrienne was a casino and hotel owner (but not really) LVP was always hanging around with shady grifters like Cedric, and is still to this day selling stories about her ‘friends’, committing insurance fraud with her restaurants, and not paying taxes OR the employees that Ken abuses These aren’t even considering the cast of side characters like Faye, Dana and Camille’s friends They weren't billionaires or anything by any means but they were certainly more wealthy than the current cast and actually felt it. But yes, as I said before, the appeal of the original series was that it was rich people with struggles and legitimate drama dealing with the husband affairs, addiction, abuse, etc. None of this "You stepped on my toe at the city hall gala" that drags on for an entire season crap the show has turned into. Edited December 24, 2023 by Gaia
TryMe Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Reality tv has evolved in general. - We see reality TV through a different lens now. We can spot staged scenes and inauthenticity sooner. - There are soooo many reality tv shows now. A lot of storylines has been played out. - Also, people get on reality TV for different reasons now. They want to become a brand. The BH OGs didn't know what was waiting for them. I don't think reality tv, like the old days, can be replicated. There has been a shift, cancel culture is one of them. You can't be unfiltered anymore. Also, Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Taylor Armstrong and Scandoval have set the bar high in terms of the level of drama. 6
Chemist Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, TryMe said: Reality tv has evolved in general. - We see reality TV through a different lens now. We can spot staged scenes and inauthenticity sooner. I cringe when I watch early RHOA/RHONJ seasons. So much of that **** was obviously planted by producers I feel like current RHOM is the evolution of old RHOBH. There is a lot of wealth porn, the women genuinely like each other and live very interesting lives 1
UnderratedVocalist Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 6 hours ago, TryMe said: Reality tv has evolved in general. - We see reality TV through a different lens now. We can spot staged scenes and inauthenticity sooner. - There are soooo many reality tv shows now. A lot of storylines has been played out. - Also, people get on reality TV for different reasons now. They want to become a brand. The BH OGs didn't know what was waiting for them. I don't think reality tv, like the old days, can be replicated. There has been a shift, cancel culture is one of them. You can't be unfiltered anymore. Also, Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Taylor Armstrong and Scandoval have set the bar high in terms of the level of drama. Very true. I've always believed that the next step in Bravo, or Reality TV in general, is to flip 'reality' on the stars. The REAL reality happens AFTER the edited version that is pushed to be consumed by us. Like, think of every scene that we see. Every dinner table setting. Image what is being said and how people act when they know the 'scene' is done. The cameras stay rolling, but producers and editors almost never give us that. They give us the more watered down, 'acceptable' and 'politically correct' version of reality. Imagine a season where production and editing flips it on them and the season is a giant expose on these women with their REAL reality. They could brand it The REAL Real Housewives of... 1
TryMe Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, UnderratedVocalist said: Very true. I've always believed that the next step in Bravo, or Reality TV in general, is to flip 'reality' on the stars. The REAL reality happens AFTER the edited version that is pushed to be consumed by us. Like, think of every scene that we see. Every dinner table setting. Image what is being said and how people act when they know the 'scene' is done. The cameras stay rolling, but producers and editors almost never give us that. They give Imagine a season where production and editing flips it on them and the season is a giant expose on these women with their REAL reality. They could brand it The REAL Real Housewives of... That is interesting take. Never looked at it that way. That is why the last season of Vanderpumpwas was so good. It was so raw and they didn't have time to plot a campaign or think about their lines....
WEEKND Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 Not you stepped on my toes at the city hall gala lmaooooo that’s so accurate tho. The drama rn is utterly fabricated
Terrielle Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 If you guys want opulence, I definitely recommend the real houseicons of Melbourne. It definitely has the luxury aspect (at least to me) and it's super entertaining and messy from season 2 onward.
qurl Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 i don’t have time to properly get into it or defend my take (that would still be misconstrued) but suffice it to say i’m team Dorit in all of this. Garcelle and Sutton are the absolute f*cking pits. Erika is winning me over this season tho 3 1
boys Posted December 25, 2023 Author Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, qurl said: i don’t have time to properly get into it or defend my take (that would still be misconstrued) but suffice it to say i’m team Dorit in all of this. Garcelle and Sutton are the absolute f*cking pits. Erika is winning me over this season tho You don't think there was a difference between the way Erika and Dorit brought up the kissing of the driver?
qurl Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, boys said: You don't think there was a difference between the way Erika and Dorit brought up the kissing of the driver? i don’t think Sutton’s response to that was productive ... Dorit was just clocking in for her shift as a HOUSEWIFE. then Sutton did the exact same drunken unhinged $h!t that she did with Kyle. it’s not even an entertaining way to shut someone down it’s just annoying and p*ssy. Dorit 100% shouldn’t have used the word attack , as she often does like to say but in that sense there was no intended malice behind it (and i understand intent isn’t as consequential when dealing with systemic racist tropes/language) but my issue with how Garcelle shut her down is that Dorit actually does treat Garcelle like she wants to be friends , even if just for the sake for the show, and Garcelle SAYS she does and then treats Dorit horribly at every turn, mainly saves it for the confessionals tho cuz that’s where she likes to run her mouth the most. at least Dorit has the wherewithal to bring $h!t up in person .. and i take Garcelle’s point about not having to educate white people , but when it’s someone that you ALLEGEDLY consider a friend and, for Dorit’s part, tries to consider you one, i believe you can make an allowance to properly educate your “friends”. but Garcelle wanted another grandstanding moment to repeat some SJW $h!t she learned from online twitter discourse. Erika’s response/explanation was very measured but then again she’s very calculated and methinks is just trying to cozy up to Garcelle cuz she knows that’s what will earn her goodwill with the online stans to top all that off, Dorit continues to do her job by driving conversations and they try to shut her down so i completely understood when she got her ass up and said “well if none of y’all wanna do ur job i’m just gonna go and be with my family!” I AM NOT EVEN A DORIT STAN LIKE THIS ! but i feel crazy watching this season where the fan base seems so intent on wanting to root for the most boring /unchallenged housewives and $h!ts on the people that are trying to be the most real ! like are y’all really gonna sit here and say that any part of this season has been made entertaining by Garcelle ? and im convinced y’all only get your kicks from Sutton bc most people despise Kyle so much and Kyle has done MUCH better at whacking that ass than Sutton has who can’t ever bring $h!t up directly. big loser energy. 4 3
Bethenny Frankel Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 Can you believe it girls, it's been 6 years since Lu was arrested?!
305 Posted December 25, 2023 Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 8:26 AM, Gaia said: I saw a few TikTok’s recently of old RHOBH and how they used to actually be filthy rich like Adrienne Malloy and Lisa V. i think that’s kinda why the franchise as a whole seems to have fallen off. Housewife is supposed to give viewers a fantasy of your wealth, class, etc. Who wants to watch middle class people or barely rich and in modest homes people just fight all day about stupid stuff. Well Miami exists and they are probably the wealthiest of all HWs ever
lustforyou Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 5 hours ago, 305 said: Well Miami exists and they are probably the wealthiest of all HWs ever This, and, ironically, they're the lowest rated HW show. If people want wealth and opulence, they need to watch Miami.
305 Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, lustforyou said: This, and, ironically, they're the lowest rated HW show. If people want wealth and opulence, they need to watch Miami. And I really don’t understand why. It is constantly proving itself to be one of the best, if not THE best, out of all the HWs. They bring opulence, drama, FUN, actual friendship, diversity, intelligence, beautiful locations and scenery, literally anything we could ask for but it’s flopping with the ratings. 1
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