Communion Posted July 3 Posted July 3 39 minutes ago, Living To Tell said: Β These nasty degenerate right wing blue dogs get away with saying this but Dems are taking out people like Cori Bush for not supporting Israel slaughtering children lol 3
19SLAYty9 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 20 minutes ago, Communion said: These nasty degenerate right wing blue dogs get away with saying this but Dems are taking out people like Cori Bush for not supporting Israel slaughtering children lol Very telling.Β
GhostBox Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Espresso said: Β Β Not Zogby. The man's had a anti Biden hard on for years π Β at least we know who the "source in the DNC" Β is nowΒ Edited July 3 by GhostBox
Vermillion Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, GhostBox said: Not Zogby. The man's had a anti Biden hard on for years π Β at least we know who the "source in DNC" Β is nowΒ Never been a fan for his anti abortion stance. And yes, he's a likely source. 1
GhostBox Posted July 3 Posted July 3 43 minutes ago, Espresso said: Β On one hand this is funny. But on the other this is a very likely scenario. I brought it up a few pages ago but another user laughed it off π€·
GhostBox Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: Β Β Yup. This is a real thing that is going to happen.Β Β which is why Biden will be the nominee.Β Edited July 3 by GhostBox
teresaguidice Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) he wasn'tΒ even that bad at the debate! he got better at theΒ end! he wasn't prepped well! actually, he was just overprepped! it was just an off night! andΒ even if it wasn't andΒ even if the president is senile its notΒ even a big deal! the lying media is lying again! they hate democrats! they love trump! they need ratings! you didn't see biden being demented! you're exaggerating! its jake tapper's fault! its fine that its been days and days and biden has yet to do a thing to assuage concerns! the polls are lying! he's only down by 5 points! the polls always wrong! the leaks are false! hisΒ enemies are the leakers! Β the way these people are no less insane than MAGA Β Edited July 3 by teresaguidice 4
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted July 3 ATRL Moderator Posted July 3 31 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: Β Β So... the architects of Project 2025 want Biden to be their opponent.Β 1 1
Asscatchem Posted July 3 Posted July 3 wait so is biden actually going to be replaced? what's the sentiment there?Β Β we need kamala. Β
shelven Posted July 3 Posted July 3 11 minutes ago, teresaguidice said: the way these people are no less insane than MAGA Β Yeah it's absolutely wild to me that centrist Dems are pulling the EXACT same "don't believe what you can literally see with your own eyes" gaslighting nonsense that MAGAts try to pull when they make their half-assed pitches about how January 6 was just a cute peaceful stroll through the Capitol. Β The reason why that characterization of January 6 has never resonated with people outside of the core MAGA base is because there was live footage of January 6 that millions of people directly watched. We saw first-handΒ that windows were smashed, police officers were attacked, barricades were pushed over and walls were scaled. Your story is never going to sell among those who aren't in a cult when it directly contradicts people's personal firsthand accounts. Β And yet... now the Democrats are trying the exact same thing but with Biden's age and senility Β The word salad excuses and desperate justifications for why Biden's age isn't a problem are never going to resonate with people because they contradict what people are seeing first hand. You can't use middle school debate club tactics to persuade someone that they're wrong to be concerned about Biden's age when they've personally witnessed Biden fail to get through basic sentences, constantly appear as though he's lost his train of thought, and stare blankly as if he doesn't know where he is.Β Β That's why I roll my eyes every time a #Resist lib melts down over Biden's age being a "fabricated media story" or whatever. It's a real concern that real people have based on what they're personally observing with their senses. You can scream "but Trump's technically only 3 years younger!!!" into the void as much as you want. It doesn't matter. PeopleΒ knowΒ that, but they've seen how Trump delivers basic oral remarks and they've seen how Biden delivers basic oral remarks and there's a glaring difference to anyone with eyes and ears. It's insulting to suggest otherwise. Β I can't remember who it was, but one of the main electoral politics pundits on Twitter said that campaigns can't campaign based on where they want voters to be - they have to campaign where voters currently are. And polls have shown that voters have repeatedly expressed forΒ yearsΒ now that they view Biden's age and cognitive abilities as a serious concern. That's the reality of the race, and the Dems either have to adequately respond to that reality or ignore it and lose. 6
GhostBox Posted July 3 Posted July 3 5 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: wait so is biden actually going to be replaced? what's the sentiment there?Β Β we need kamala. Β As of now? No. He's still going to be the nomineeΒ
Asscatchem Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Just now, GhostBox said: As of now? No. He's still going to be the nomineeΒ is there a good possibility for replacement or is it just dumb speculation?
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3 Posted July 3 4 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: wait so is biden actually going to be replaced? what's the sentiment there?Β Β we need kamala. Β He won't be replaced. Biden is too stubborn and thinks he's the ordained gift of God Himself sent to defeat Trump, and only he can do it. Not to mention, his family is fully enabling him and stroking his ego. Β He's going to lose extremely badly in a way that hasn't ever been seen before. If his performance continues to collapse and he has a similar, if not worse debate in September, then California and New York might be looking like swing states at that point. 1
GhostBox Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, Asscatchem said: is there a good possibility for replacement or is it just dumb speculation? I mean there's a tiny possibility. But as more and more days go by there isn't.Β Β it clearly looks like the strategy is to weather the blowback and try to put the car back on the track.Β Β if another week or 2 goes by and Biden doesn't step down by then, then it will just be dumb speculation after that.Β
byzantium Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: is there a good possibility for replacement or is it just dumb speculation? https://www.theblock.co/amp/post/302475/polymarket-bets-39-chance-that-biden-drops-out-of-2024-election Β for what it is worth. Β Β But in reality, Biden is isolated and intent on maintaining power even if it means giving the presidency to Trump. Β It's interesting how the democrats have gone from the party to defeat Trump to the party of Biden's political ambitions. Β
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