shyboi Posted June 28 Posted June 28 8 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: This format of debates is not for Biden, it's hard for him to focus on right answers when there's no notes and campaign staff around, so he got lost in his thoughts. this format of debates or any type of debates? they planned all this to make Biden look good, no interruptions, no live audience, silver spoon him easy questions so he could give decent replies and he still manage to **** all up 1
Augmented Posted June 28 Posted June 28 So admittedly I don't really know much about US politics but I like to keep up when it's election stuff. Is it even possible for Biden to step down like is that a thing that can happen? If so is there even a system in place to allow a transition to a new candidate? Can anything even be done in 5 months with a new person in place? Genuinely really intrigued by it all tbh.
Aston Martin Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Biden's gonna stay in, lose 2024, probably pass away soon afterwards so he really won't feel many of the negative consequences of his selfishness, and the rest of us are going to have what's left of our rights stripped away. I'm ******* furious 1
If U Seek Amy Posted June 28 Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, Augmented said: So admittedly I don't really know much about US politics but I like to keep up when it's election stuff. Is it even possible for Biden to step down like is that a thing that can happen? If so is there even a system in place to allow a transition to a new candidate? Can anything even be done in 5 months with a new person in place? Genuinely really intrigued by it all tbh. Yes. At the Democratic convention the delegates can choose someone new 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 18 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: The irony that he was perfectly fine at SOTU and it's been like only 3 months ago This format of debates is not for Biden, it's hard for him to focus on right answers when there's no notes and campaign staff around, so he got lost in his thoughts. Meanwhile for Trump it was an easy ride, since he did his usual thing with hateful narratives and attacks, plus constant lying and dodging almost all the questions. This is just straight up copium. 1
WildAmerican Posted June 28 Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, Augmented said: So admittedly I don't really know much about US politics but I like to keep up when it's election stuff. Is it even possible for Biden to step down like is that a thing that can happen? If so is there even a system in place to allow a transition to a new candidate? Can anything even be done in 5 months with a new person in place? Genuinely really intrigued by it all tbh. yes, bc the nominating convention hasn't happened, so they technically have until the convention to make a decision about what to do. The delegates at the convention would have to vote for new candidate. It's all possible, but pretty unlikely, since there's probably no one person they could unify around. 1
Harrier Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Augmented said: So admittedly I don't really know much about US politics but I like to keep up when it's election stuff. Is it even possible for Biden to step down like is that a thing that can happen? If so is there even a system in place to allow a transition to a new candidate? Can anything even be done in 5 months with a new person in place? Genuinely really intrigued by it all tbh. It is theoretically possible. Joe is not the nominee yet and he can step down even after that. But every precedent in US politics tells us it will not happen. The democrats are so absurdly risk averse that they would rather have this known quantity - an aging grandpa who is barely holding on - to untested candidates at the national level like Whitmer/Newsom or to the unpopular Kamala. Not to mention Joe's massive ego, he's bringing the whole party down with him. I would join all the girls in here in celebrating if Joe does step down. I am hoping against hope people like Obama are on the phones making it happen. But I would be shocked. 1
dman4life Posted June 28 Posted June 28 I just don't see a scenario where Trump even does a second debate I really don't. It's ironic that by not stepping down Biden comes off more selfish than even Trump wtf
WildAmerican Posted June 28 Posted June 28 some tin foil hat'd person on twitter said that they purposely had the debate early so Biden could bomb and they could replace him before the convention... it is weird bc debates are never this early and the Biden campaign are the one's who wanted this. weird all around
GraceRandolph Posted June 28 Posted June 28 30 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: The irony that he was perfectly fine at SOTU and it's been like only 3 months ago This format of debates is not for Biden, it's hard for him to focus on right answers when there's no notes and campaign staff around, so he got lost in his thoughts. Meanwhile for Trump it was an easy ride, since he did his usual thing with hateful narratives and attacks, plus constant lying and dodging almost all the questions. Biden did fine in the 2020 debates and 2012 VP debates. He's just declined massively since both of those.
dman4life Posted June 28 Posted June 28 7 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: some tin foil hat'd person on twitter said that they purposely had the debate early so Biden could bomb and they could replace him before the convention... it is weird bc debates are never this early and the Biden campaign are the one's who wanted this. weird all around I hate to give credence to this kind of rhetoric BUT it truly makes you wonder why they even let him show up in that condition. Even canceling the debate altogether due to his "cold" woulda been better optics than this.
Harrier Posted June 28 Posted June 28 We need Biden's poll numbers to tank by like 6+ points or something then maybes theres hope for replacement
Vroom Vroom Posted June 28 Posted June 28 10 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: some tin foil hat'd person on twitter said that they purposely had the debate early so Biden could bomb and they could replace him before the convention... it is weird bc debates are never this early and the Biden campaign are the one's who wanted this. weird all around They probably wanted it early so people would "forget" about it by election time. The news cycle moves so fast A lot is going to happen between now and the election. Trump surpreme court decision, Trump sentencing, Trump's vp pick ect. Biden's awful debate performance will not be fresh in 5 months
GraceRandolph Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, Harrier said: We need Biden's poll numbers to tank by like 6+ points or something then maybes theres hope for replacement I'm ready for the ladies of The View to try and spin this unmitigated disaster into... something.
Vermillion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 A lot of people still here. Where are y'all on a regular basis I suppose we're now in crisis mode so no one's bothering elsewhere except for Katy v. Kesha? 1 1
Vroom Vroom Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Harrier said: We need Biden's poll numbers to tank by like 6+ points or something then maybes theres hope for replacement That's the only way. If his polling numbers really plummet, it's Kamala's time Honestly getting rid of Biden and Kamala in one election cycle would give Dems a better chance in 2028, if we still have a democracy then 1
WildAmerican Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Espresso said: A lot of people still here. Where are y'all on a regular basis I suppose we're now in crisis mode so no one's bothering elsewhere except for Katy v. Kesha? posting through it
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 34 minutes ago, Augmented said: So admittedly I don't really know much about US politics but I like to keep up when it's election stuff. Is it even possible for Biden to step down like is that a thing that can happen? If so is there even a system in place to allow a transition to a new candidate? Can anything even be done in 5 months with a new person in place? Genuinely really intrigued by it all tbh. It is a thing that can happen. But, Biden is a grumpy, arrogant old man. He's not going to. Obama is the only person that would be able to convince him. Ironically, the Democratic Party's primary has a thing called "super delegates". These are party higher-ups that help decide who should be the candidate without any need to be based on voters. The DNC argues they exist in the case of an emergency, like this current scenario. But, the Democratic Party did such an effective job at rigging the primary process to nominate the next candidate (e.g., shutting down primary elections altogether in some states and refusing to allow a debate) that Biden has enough pledged delegates that the super delegates do not make a difference. They could all switch to another candidate and Biden would still be the nominee. 1 3
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 1 hour ago, nadiamendell said: Biden is clearly surrounded by yes-men who are likely just telling him everything is ok while he takes a nap in the corner and THEY run the country. Of course they don't want him to step aside, because then they would be giving up their own power. It's disgusting to see. It's worse than that. Biden is surrounded by people whose careers are based on the fact that he is president. Their careers hit a massive wall if/when Biden is no longer president. They have all the incentive in the world to put puppet strings on Biden's corpse and gaslight us all into thinking he's up for the job. 4
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