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[Dula Peep]

He needs to step down immediately 

[dman4life]

9 hours ago, WildAmerican said:

the way they're just standing there at the end 

Took me OUT 

[GhostBox]

2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Yep, she would've done a much better job. But remember that @GhostBox, @VOSS, @Reginald, @thesegayz, @ForgottenSoul, @Onyxmage, and @Kassi defended Biden at every turn and shut down any criticism only for him to fall on his face and have to be REPLACED anyway.

I'll still take senile Biden over crystal woman any day 😂

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

I'll still take senile Biden over crystal woman any day 😂

You have been saying we need to accept Biden and the ticket can't change for months. You're a liar.

[GhostBox]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

 

I mean it's true Joe bombed but what she said is true. He did at least TRY to answer the questions unlike Trump who gave "immigrants are horrible" as an answer to every question he received 😂

[GhostBox]

6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

You have been saying we need to accept Biden and the ticket can't change for months. You're a liar.

I played along with the what if game last night myself but back in reality it's simple

Yes the ticket still won't change. 🤷

 

these will still be the two choices come November. 
 

unless either die. Trump and Biden are the two on the ballot and one will win. 

Edited Friday at 12:27 PM by GhostBox

[Vroom Vroom]

I was excepting a mess, but that was so much worse 

 

Trump has been spewing the same talking points for 3 years and Biden's team had nothing prepared to counter them. It was really irritating watching Biden unable to effectively call out Trump's lies. 
 

Hopefully Gaga releases LG7 so I can fully tune out the rest of the election. I don't think I can follow this **** anymore 

 

Biden can definitely still win, but the next 5 months are going to be a disaster 

 

[ForgottenSoul]

2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Yep, she would've done a much better job. But remember that @GhostBox, @VOSS, @Reginald, @thesegayz, @ForgottenSoul, @Onyxmage, and @Kassi defended Biden at every turn and shut down any criticism only for him to fall on his face and have to be REPLACED anyway.

I dont think I defended him generally and I think he should have been gone a while ago lmfao. 

[GhostBox]

7 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said:

I was excepting a mess, but that was so much worse 

 

Trump has been spewing the same talking points for 3 years and Biden's team had nothing prepared to counter them. It was really irritating watching Biden unable to effectively call out Trump's lies. 
 

Hopefully Gaga releases LG7 so I can fully tune out the rest of the election. I don't think I can follow this **** anymore 

 

Biden can definitely still win, but the next 5 months are going to be a disaster 

 

At times biden had the material in his head he just couldn't get it out in the correct way which was even more irritating

💀

 

his best part was when he attacked Trump for his rape charge and cheating on his wife with a porn star attack. (The Jan 6th section wa pretty good too) If that Biden showed up for the whole debate today would've a lot different for him. 

Edited Friday at 12:37 PM by GhostBox

[Redstreak]

I mean part of the problem is you could at least spin the SOTU, yeah he's old but he can show up a bit when needed. Last night was just really bad and no way it doesn't get worse if he makes it to the second debate

[GhostBox]

5 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

I mean part of the problem is you could at least spin the SOTU, yeah he's old but he can show up a bit when needed. Last night was just really bad and no way it doesn't get worse if he makes it to the second debate

The muting of the mics really hurt biden. If Trump was interrupting it would've at least saved him from his stumbles. Like it did the first debate in 2020 where it looked like Trump was bullying him. Why they would ever agree to the muting of the mics is malpractice 

 

 

trump didn't do great either. Biden just did so bad Biden lost. 😂

 

Edited Friday at 12:45 PM by GhostBox

[Redstreak]

3 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

The muting of the mics really hurt biden. If Trump was interrupting it would've at least saved him from his stumbles. Like it did the first debate in 2020 where it looked like Trump was bullying him. Why they would ever agree to the muting of the mics is malpractice 

 

 

trump didn't do great either. Biden just did so bad Biden lost. 😂

 

Yeah but Trump was Trump, he's the drunk uncle you've learned to tune out when he rambles at Thanksgiving dinner. Biden looked like the guy at the table we all still got together for because who knows if we'll get another one next year

[dman4life]

Hate to be that person but we wouldn't even be in this mess if Hillary was elected in 2016. We'd be at the end of her 8 years and be onto much younger candidates by now 

[Gottasadae]

5 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Why do I feel like the DNC will replace Biden with Hillary?

All jokes aside, Hillary is probably one of the best tickets that Dems have right now to beat Trump  I don't mind, let her have this revenge tour. 

 

After this debates, as independent I feel so unmotivated to even go out and vote in November - Trump is straight awful, lying con artist and Biden is basically showing his decline during live tv ... fkn mess 

[GraceRandolph]

6 minutes ago, dman4life said:

Hate to be that person but we wouldn't even be in this mess if Hillary was elected in 2016. We'd be at the end of her 8 years and be onto much younger candidates by now 

Hillary would've lost in 2020 if she'd won 2016.

[karron0624]

I know we have been joking about genocide Joe, but i fully believe now Biden actually does not know what is going on in israel. This man cannot make it to 2028, and it was beyond selfish for him or his handlers to put him back up for reelection. This will go down in history as the worst blunder by any president.

[Vroom Vroom]

4 minutes ago, dman4life said:

Hate to be that person but we wouldn't even be in this mess if Hillary was elected in 2016. We'd be at the end of her 8 years and be onto much younger candidates by now 

This is extreme alternative universe bs but the other day I was thinking about what things would have been like if Hillary had won the nomination in 2008. She would have easily beaten McCain. Then in 2016 an older Obama with more experience in the Senate could have beaten Trump in 2016 

[GhostBox]

3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Hillary would've lost in 2020 if she'd won 2016.

I don't think Hillary would've fumble the covid situation like Trump did. 
 

 

[GhostBox]

Just now, Vroom Vroom said:

This is extreme alternative universe bs but the other day I was thinking about what things would have been like if Hillary had won the nomination in 2008. She would have easily beaten McCain. Then in 2016 an older Obama with more experience in the Senate could have beaten Trump in 2016 

I think Hillary's time was 2004. I really do. She could've beat bush. But she didn't run because she promised to serve out her role as senator 💀

[Dark Phoenix]

The clown came back to bite the Dems for all the rigging they did to undermine Bernie back then and now all the other candidates in the 2024 primaries.

 

2020 Biden was somehow still in condition to be presidential but since last year he has been unstable in the way he acts and now the show is more clear, they still have 4 months so that's enough time to pivot for a new candidate and change the strategy because Trump is going to drag Biden in November.

 

[Aston Martin]

I've already typed out what I think would've happened if Hillary won 2016 and since I don't feel like doing it again, I'll just repost it here: 

 

On 6/17/2024 at 4:04 AM, Aston Martin said:

If Hillary had won PA, MI, and WI to get to 270 EC votes, I think she still would've inherited a Republican-majority congress (both houses).
 

I say this because her losses to Trump in WI and PA were smaller than each of their Democrat senate candidates vs their respective Republican opponents. Hillary lost PA by 44.2k votes but Pat Toomey (Repub senator) beat Katlie McGinty (Dem candidate) by 86.69k votes. Hillary lost WI by 22.7k votes yet Ron Johnson (Repub senator) beat Russ Feingold (Dem candidate) by 99.1k votes. 
 

With a hyper-partisan Republican congress and Democratic President, I think 2016-2020 would've been legal gridlock and nothing meaningful would get passed. I don't think the Republican senate would've given her any SC picks either (they would keep voting them down, and even with Collins and Murkowski voting with the Dems, they still would've come up short). There wouldn't have been a Trump backlash that drove the 2018 blue wave either. I think this would've led to Trump beating her in a 2020 rematch, Trump getting the same 3 conservative SC picks through with a Republican senate because a 2016-2020 Trump presidency wouldn't have shifted the Senate to 50/50 like it actually did in 2020. Roe still would've been overturned. With a Republican trifecta, I'm sure anything from gay marriage, trans healthcare, and birth control would've been too. Democrats would be in a much better position to win 2024 in this timeline, but I don't think Biden would be running. 
 

Long story short, I think Hillary would've been a one term president, 2020-2024 would somehow be much worse than they are right now, and Dems would be a lock to win this November (and Joe Biden wouldn't be running).

[choerry]

The only way Biden is not on the ticket is if he himself decides to step aside which I don't see happening. The DNC can try to convince him but the buck stops with him.

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, choerry said:

The only way Biden is not on the ticket is if he himself decides to step aside which I don't see happening. The DNC can try to convince him but the buck stops with him.

Donors can basically force him out.

[GraceRandolph]

[bunnyeyes]

I'm glad people are waking up to what we've been saying all along. It's not about Joe, it's about none of us wanting Trump to win and the Dems not doing everything in their power to stop him. Last night was a wake up call, and I hope they answer it.