GhostBox Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bunnyeyes said: If Biden loses, are you willing to commit to not blaming immigrants, trans people, protestors etc. for his weakness as a candidate? If someone doenst vote or votes 3rd party knowing the risks that another trump term entails, they carry the blame just as much as anyone for a trump win. if any of the people you mentioned fall into that category on Election Day they deserve the blame 🤷 Edited June 9 by GhostBox
Communion Posted June 9 Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, GhostBox said: If someone doenst vote or votes 3rd party knowing the risks that another trump term entails, they carry the blame just as much as anyone for a trump win. if any of the people you mentioned fall into that category on Election Day they deserve the blame 🤷 > Biden courts right-wing voters > "Leftists are to blame even if Biden's far-right push fails" "Heads I win, tails you lose" 3 1 1
bunnyeyes Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 27 minutes ago, GhostBox said: If someone doenst vote or votes 3rd party knowing the risks that another trump term entails, they carry the blame just as much as anyone for a trump win. if any of the people you mentioned fall into that category on Election Day they deserve the blame 🤷 And why is it someone on the left would vote third party or not at all if not for his failed candidacy? Under that logic, the DNC propping up the most unpopular president in 75 years knowing what another trump term entails is sinful, no? No party is entitled to votes if the DNC cared about another trump presidency they wouldn't publicly support the candidate they talk crap about privately, they'd remove him ASAP Edited June 9 by bunnyeyes 1
GhostBox Posted June 9 Posted June 9 with gas prices going down and inflation over all. Biden might be able to be in the lead when it comes to the economy come election time.
thesegayz Posted June 9 Posted June 9 4 hours ago, bunnyeyes said: And why is it someone on the left would vote third party or not at all if not for his failed candidacy? Under that logic, the DNC propping up the most unpopular president in 75 years knowing what another trump term entails is sinful, no? No party is entitled to votes if the DNC cared about another trump presidency they wouldn't publicly support the candidate they talk crap about privately, they'd remove him ASAP Biden won the damn primary. The "DNC" can put their thumb on the scale, but no one actually tried to topple him. RFK tried, but his literal brain worms doomed him. the "DNC" isn't going to can a candidate who won the vote. That's undemocratic. And by litigating the past, you show your inability to grasp with reality. There are two choices in the fall: Trump or Biden. That's it. It sucks, but those are your choices. This isn't the time for a temper tantrum because you can't vote for someone who makes you feel good, because there's literally no one who is talented enough to take over for Biden. people who can do a better job? No doubt. People who can actually win national elections? No. Not even Kamala (). The Democratic bench is screwed in 2028 unless a no-name candidate captures the imagination of the country. Get real and vote. Stop living in fantasy worlds where some miracle happens and you can finally "fEeL goOd" because politics isn't s*x, or stanning, or a drug. It's a meat grinder that eats up everything in its current form because of money in politics. Period. That's not changing this election. 1
Communion Posted June 9 Posted June 9 7 hours ago, Espresso said: Biden isn't budging on Gaza so in the fallout of losing his base his team has realized he has to try to make it up in the middle on the border but isn't realizing it won't be enough to make up the difference. Stay homes and third partiers on Gaza cancel out any lingering enthusiasm on Roe while inflation turns off too many moderates for this asylum action to seal the deal in winning them over. With the current demographic makeup of the Electoral College, those are the reasons Biden will lose. I think this sums it up well: Democrats adopting Republicans' framing just helps Republicans win. The only person trying to elect Trump is seemingly Biden. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 9 Posted June 9 7 hours ago, Espresso said: Biden isn't budging on Gaza so in the fallout of losing his base his team has realized he has to try to make it up in the middle on the border but isn't realizing it won't be enough to make up the difference. Stay homes and third partiers on Gaza cancel out any lingering enthusiasm on Roe while inflation turns off too many moderates for this asylum action to seal the deal in winning them over. With the current demographic makeup of the Electoral College, those are the reasons Biden will lose. More relevant, I think, is the fact that Haley voters don't trust Biden on border security and think that he's just posturing for votes now while planning to double cross them and grant amnesty to migrants after he no longer has to worry about re-election. Just like how there's a trust deficit with the left, who really shouldn't believe that Biden will continue to show commitment toward a ceasefire in Gaza after Election Day has passed either.
bunnyeyes Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, thesegayz said: Biden won the damn primary. The "DNC" can put their thumb on the scale, but no one actually tried to topple him. RFK tried, but his literal brain worms doomed him. the "DNC" isn't going to can a candidate who won the vote. That's undemocratic. And by litigating the past, you show your inability to grasp with reality. There are two choices in the fall: Trump or Biden. That's it. It sucks, but those are your choices. This isn't the time for a temper tantrum because you can't vote for someone who makes you feel good, because there's literally no one who is talented enough to take over for Biden. people who can do a better job? No doubt. People who can actually win national elections? No. Not even Kamala (). The Democratic bench is screwed in 2028 unless a no-name candidate captures the imagination of the country. Get real and vote. Stop living in fantasy worlds where some miracle happens and you can finally "fEeL goOd" because politics isn't s*x, or stanning, or a drug. It's a meat grinder that eats up everything in its current form because of money in politics. Period. That's not changing this election. I actually don't entirely disagree with you but ultimately it's really important for us to pressure him to "earn" our vote otherwise he will continue pandering to the non-maga right especially with things that are most important. I of course will be voting in the election especially for local races, but the sort of hubris and entitlement exhibited by his campaign is only going to doom it. I used "DNC" instead of the democrat establishment and Biden admin which would have been more precise language, and I'll use that for clarity moving forward. I hope the Biden camp will continue to work on issues the American people actually care about instead of funding the murder of children and trying to attack asylum seekers, some of which are loved ones of mine. Trump will undoubtedly be worse and must be stopped but I think the pain felt by those of us who feel lied to is also valid and you can't blame us for being disillusioned and angry. It is not the fault of the people who do not wish to fund genocide and who are like me and trying to scramble to find lawyers under the new asylum regulations for loved ones unexpectedly. It is the fault of the hubris of one man and it's unfortunate that's he's surrounded by yes people. CEASEFIRE NOW! Edited June 10 by bunnyeyes
Communion Posted June 9 Posted June 9 2 hours ago, thesegayz said: It's a meat grinder that eats up everything in its current form because of money in politics. Period. That's not changing this election. 100% normal way to convince Americans to do something the majority already doesn't believe holds value. 1
GhostBox Posted June 10 Posted June 10 wondering what this could be 🤔 Shes gonna be on Joy Reid tomorrow too
ClashAndBurn Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Imagine being a Democrat and being despicable that even pop girls can't stand the thought of looking like they're endorsing you. 2 1
GraceRandolph Posted June 10 Posted June 10 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Imagine being a Democrat and being despicable that even pop girls can't stand the thought of looking like they're endorsing you. But I was told no one cares about Gaza except the fringe of the left? 1
bunnyeyes Posted June 10 Posted June 10 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Can someone tell me what his policy plan for next term is that's different from this term and not just "I'm not trump!"
Communion Posted June 10 Posted June 10 11 hours ago, bunnyeyes said: Can someone tell me what his policy plan for next term is that's different from this term and not just "I'm not trump!" There is none.
If U Seek Amy Posted June 10 Posted June 10 12 hours ago, bunnyeyes said: Can someone tell me what his policy plan for next term is that's different from this term and not just "I'm not trump!" Go to his site and read it
Eat The Acid Posted June 10 Posted June 10 4 hours ago, VOSS said: Someone needs to open up her head and see if there's a brain inside
Gottasadae Posted June 10 Posted June 10 4 hours ago, nooniebao said: I can't wait to vote this hag out, she's so corrupt and out of touch with reality, same as that joke of mayor Adams Hochul was really lucky coz the other option for governor was a brain dead maga clown
bunnyeyes Posted June 10 Posted June 10 1 hour ago, If U Seek Amy said: Go to his site and read it link to his 2024 platform/policy?
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